Thank you. Then that leads to another question. When will we expect to fill that senior audit position and complete the contract to whoever the contractor is in terms of this position? Thank you.
Debates of Feb. 22nd, 2006
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Committee Motion 26-15(4): Recommendation To Move The Contract Registry From Iti To Fmbs, Carried
Item 16: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 26-15(4): Recommendation To Move The Contract Registry From Iti To Fmbs, Carried
Item 16: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 26-15(4): Recommendation To Move The Contract Registry From Iti To Fmbs, Carried
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Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, we have done what we can in a sense of our advertising and getting information out there to try to attract people to take that position on. We've now started focussing on trying to, along with the advertising portion of it, take from within and have people trained up to that level so that we can hopefully be more successful in that side of taking people from within the organization and have them trained so that they can take on a position like that. Thank you.
Committee Motion 26-15(4): Recommendation To Move The Contract Registry From Iti To Fmbs, Carried
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Committee Motion 26-15(4): Recommendation To Move The Contract Registry From Iti To Fmbs, Carried
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Norman Yakeleya Sahtu
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, I support it if they can take a position within the department and train them to be a qualified senior auditor candidate. I guess somewhere along the line, this is where the date is going to end in terms of including the contractor's position. That type of loss would be worse. I would just like to encourage the Minister that this type of philosophy also works within our regions and all different areas about filling positions. I certainly support the Minister in terms of having someone in the department move up to that level as much as I see anybody in our region was in maybe a similar position because they have the opportunity to also move to senior management levels. Thank you.
Committee Motion 26-15(4): Recommendation To Move The Contract Registry From Iti To Fmbs, Carried
Item 16: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 26-15(4): Recommendation To Move The Contract Registry From Iti To Fmbs, Carried
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Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I thank the Member for his support in that area. That is something, as a government, we have tried to do through a number of programs. For example, it would be under another new department we will have established after this budget flows on, how we would try and attract our own forces or people from within up the ladder. Thank you.
Committee Motion 26-15(4): Recommendation To Move The Contract Registry From Iti To Fmbs, Carried
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Committee Motion 26-15(4): Recommendation To Move The Contract Registry From Iti To Fmbs, Carried
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Committee Motion 26-15(4): Recommendation To Move The Contract Registry From Iti To Fmbs, Carried
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Committee Motion 26-15(4): Recommendation To Move The Contract Registry From Iti To Fmbs, Carried
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David Ramsay Kam Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I am just wondering if the Minister could elaborate a little bit further on what internal operational audits the Audit Bureau has conducted and in which departments in the past six to eight months. Thank you.
Committee Motion 26-15(4): Recommendation To Move The Contract Registry From Iti To Fmbs, Carried
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Committee Motion 26-15(4): Recommendation To Move The Contract Registry From Iti To Fmbs, Carried
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Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, for that kind of information, I don't believe we have all of that available, but Mr. Voytilla does have some information that he can provide. If we can have Mr. Voytilla give some detail in that area. Thank you.
Committee Motion 26-15(4): Recommendation To Move The Contract Registry From Iti To Fmbs, Carried
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Committee Motion 26-15(4): Recommendation To Move The Contract Registry From Iti To Fmbs, Carried
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Voytilla
Thank you, Mr. Chair. We have a system of risk assessment to determine which audits we should give priority to. We apply that assessment methodology to the organization and then build our audit plan from that. The only thing that sometimes comes in and throws a bit of a kink into our plan is the amount of special investigations. There is no control, really, over the volume and its frequency of special investigations. As they come up, we give them priority and act on them. Unfortunately, this summer and this fall we spent a lot of time on special investigations and so we are behind in our regular audit plan, but some of the operational audits have proceeded and are underway, but we are behind in our main audit program for this year because of the number of special.
Committee Motion 26-15(4): Recommendation To Move The Contract Registry From Iti To Fmbs, Carried
Item 16: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 26-15(4): Recommendation To Move The Contract Registry From Iti To Fmbs, Carried
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David Ramsay Kam Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'm just wondering if we should be alarmed that there's been a
number of special investigations being conducted, and I would just have to also question how the Audit Bureau would arrive at priorities. Maybe if the Minister or Mr. Voytilla could share with us what they feel are priority areas. Are there departments that are more likely to have the Audit Bureau go in and conduct an audit? I think this is the type of information that I'd like to know, Mr. Chairman.
Committee Motion 26-15(4): Recommendation To Move The Contract Registry From Iti To Fmbs, Carried
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Committee Motion 26-15(4): Recommendation To Move The Contract Registry From Iti To Fmbs, Carried
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Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, there is a criteria established for when we would look at audits and how we would do those, and Mr. Voytilla can provide that detail. Thank you.
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Committee Motion 26-15(4): Recommendation To Move The Contract Registry From Iti To Fmbs, Carried
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Voytilla
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'd certainly be happy to give a full briefing on our risk assessment methodology. It's something that we developed just a few years ago and our audit committee oversees its application with the bureau, but it looks at the volume of transactions, it looks at the magnitude of the individual transactions involved, it looks at if there's been significant change and turnover in any particular organizational area. We also, of course, seek input from the senior management in areas that they think need special attention. So there's about five or six specific factors that we take into account in our waiting to determine priority for audit, and we'd certainly be able to give the Member more specifics and detail on that if he'd like.
Committee Motion 26-15(4): Recommendation To Move The Contract Registry From Iti To Fmbs, Carried
Item 16: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 26-15(4): Recommendation To Move The Contract Registry From Iti To Fmbs, Carried
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David Ramsay Kam Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I think that a briefing like that would be beneficial to Members to try to get an idea of how risk assessment is arrived at and which departments. The thing I'm getting at is if we're not getting out there, if the Audit Bureau is not getting out there and conducting the work that it's prescribed to do, whether it's because of staffing or special investigations that are going on, then that causes me some concern, Mr. Chairman. Again, I think some more work has to be done in this area and I look forward to...I know Mr. Voytilla may not be with us much longer, but certainly somebody to give us a briefing on this risk assessment methodology. I think it's important for all Members to try to understand that. Thank you.
Committee Motion 26-15(4): Recommendation To Move The Contract Registry From Iti To Fmbs, Carried
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Committee Motion 26-15(4): Recommendation To Move The Contract Registry From Iti To Fmbs, Carried
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Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, what Mr. Ramsay states about a concern of not getting out there and doing some of this work is a concern that is shared by the Financial Management Board Secretariat and that is why we're using more and more contracting to go out and get some of this work done. Thank you.