Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just wanted to, and again, given the size and the scope of this project being over $15 million, who ultimately is going to be responsible for overseeing the implementation of this new FIS project and I guess financially responsible for it, as well? Like, who in the department is going to be the key person that's involved with this, or are we contracting everything out? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Debates of Feb. 22nd, 2006
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Committee Motion 26-15(4): Recommendation To Move The Contract Registry From Iti To Fmbs, Carried
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Committee Motion 26-15(4): Recommendation To Move The Contract Registry From Iti To Fmbs, Carried
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Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, there's a fair bit of detail with that. Ultimately it will come down between the chairman of the Financial Management Board and the secretary of the Financial Management Board, but there will be a steering committee established with that. For the detail and how we plan to unfold this, we'll have Mr. Voytilla give that information.
Committee Motion 26-15(4): Recommendation To Move The Contract Registry From Iti To Fmbs, Carried
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Committee Motion 26-15(4): Recommendation To Move The Contract Registry From Iti To Fmbs, Carried
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Committee Motion 26-15(4): Recommendation To Move The Contract Registry From Iti To Fmbs, Carried
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Committee Motion 26-15(4): Recommendation To Move The Contract Registry From Iti To Fmbs, Carried
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Voytilla
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This is a major project and so we will be organizing it in a very formal and comprehensive way. There will be a project terms of reference, there will be a steering committee established chaired by, I expect, the secretary of the Financial Management Board, but also made up of deputy ministers and other users. In the secretariat itself, we have one or two positions that will be dedicated throughout the life of the project. In addition, we expect we'll have to pull together a project team. We will be looking for recruits from across the organization to form that project team, and then we will still have to supplement that with contracted resources because the implementation period will take two to two-and-a-half years to complete, and we will have to draw upon levels of expertise that we don't have in house. We would hope, though, and we would intend, through the process, to do an awful lot of staff development, knowledge transfer from the contracted resources to our own staff so that afterwards we don't have an ongoing dependency with any particular supplier or contractor.
Committee Motion 26-15(4): Recommendation To Move The Contract Registry From Iti To Fmbs, Carried
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Committee Motion 26-15(4): Recommendation To Move The Contract Registry From Iti To Fmbs, Carried
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Committee Motion 26-15(4): Recommendation To Move The Contract Registry From Iti To Fmbs, Carried
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The Chair Calvin Pokiak
Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. At this time can we return back to volume I, please, of FMBS under 2-51, volume I, page 2-51, program summary, operations expenditure summary, $18.283 million. Questions?
Committee Motion 26-15(4): Recommendation To Move The Contract Registry From Iti To Fmbs, Carried
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair Calvin Pokiak
So can we go to volume II, under 2-7, FMBS, infrastructure acquisition plan, directorate, tangible capital assets, total tangible capital assets, $500,000.
Committee Motion 26-15(4): Recommendation To Move The Contract Registry From Iti To Fmbs, Carried
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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Committee Motion 26-15(4): Recommendation To Move The Contract Registry From Iti To Fmbs, Carried
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David Ramsay Kam Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I should have asked this before, but I'll ask it now. The money that's budgeted here for the system review, does that include the money that Mr. Voytilla is talking about for the setup of the project team, any type of money for the steering committee to develop a terms of reference, like is there soft costs in this or is this just for the system itself?
Committee Motion 26-15(4): Recommendation To Move The Contract Registry From Iti To Fmbs, Carried
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Committee Motion 26-15(4): Recommendation To Move The Contract Registry From Iti To Fmbs, Carried
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Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, this includes both; all costs, it's the total package. Thank you.
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David Ramsay Kam Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. If it does include both, I guess why would you present it in this way as a capital asset when some of this $16 million isn't going to be a capital asset, it would be corporate knowledge in our employees minds and pieces of paper with terms of reference on it? I'm just wondering why you would address it as a capital asset if it's not, indeed, a capital asset. Thank you.
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Committee Motion 26-15(4): Recommendation To Move The Contract Registry From Iti To Fmbs, Carried
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Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the majority of this will, in fact, fall under the capital assets as it will be an asset that the government will use. For the details of how this flows out and works within our tangible capital assets program, I'll have Mr. Voytilla give that detail.
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Voytilla
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just for clarity, the time devoted by senior management to oversee the project won't be part of this. This will be the actual people that are hired to implement the system; the consultants, the dedicated staff resources. In this money is money for training, for data conversion, for business re-engineering. All of those are considered to be implementation costs. In fact, on a major project like this, a good 60 to 65 percent of your costs will be those types of labour inputs, labour costs. The actual licensing of the new software, whatever hardware is required, that constitutes a smaller part of the project, and in our accounting policies and accepted accounting policies across the country are that those dedicated project costs are capitalized and amortized over the life of the project.
Committee Motion 26-15(4): Recommendation To Move The Contract Registry From Iti To Fmbs, Carried
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Committee Motion 26-15(4): Recommendation To Move The Contract Registry From Iti To Fmbs, Carried
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David Ramsay Kam Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I can understand that. I guess if it's 60 to 65 percent, I guess I could do the quick math on what exactly the new system is going to cost and that's the licensing, and the actual software and that would be about four or $5 million, is that correct?