Thank you, Mr. Pokiak. Mr. McLeod.
Debates of Feb. 3rd, 2006
This is page numbers 701 - 744 of the Hansard for the 15th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was communities.
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Supplementary To Question 333-15(4): Implementation Of Corridors For Canada Ii Document
Question 333-15(4): Implementation Of Corridors For Canada Ii Document
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Further Return To Question 333-15(4): Implementation Of Corridors For Canada Ii Document
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Michael McLeod Deh Cho
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the community of Tuktoyaktuk and several representatives had talked about the possibility of looking at an option of entering into an agreement to sign a P3 project that would provide gravel to the community on a cost-recovery basis. The first step in doing that was to do an assessment of how much gravel was needed in the community. We've done some very conservative estimates. That number is 200,000 cubic metres. That doesn't include the requirements for erosion control, for the Inuvik-Tuk highway, for other growth in the community. We know there is a need for a new subdivision in that community and approximately 30 or 40 lots that need to be developed. This does not take that into account, but there is a huge need. We are providing that information to the community. We will continue to work to see if there is some viability in developing a P3 project. Thank you.
Further Return To Question 333-15(4): Implementation Of Corridors For Canada Ii Document
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Supplementary To Question 333-15(4): Implementation Of Corridors For Canada Ii Document
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Calvin Pokiak Nunakput
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I don't know if I am allowed to ask this question, but I will let you determine that. I noticed that, in the Finance Minister's budget, he identified $11 million for the Mackenzie Valley winter road bridge program in his budget speech. I want to ask the Minister of Transportation, I guess, why there wasn't any thought in putting any money into the budget for the source access road. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Supplementary To Question 333-15(4): Implementation Of Corridors For Canada Ii Document
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Item 6: Oral Questions
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Further Return To Question 333-15(4): Implementation Of Corridors For Canada Ii Document
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Michael McLeod Deh Cho
Mr. Speaker, the money included in the budget is money identified on a cost-shared basis through agreements with the federal government. There were a number of projects that were included in our submission called Corridors for Canada. There was also the Strategic Highway Infrastructure Program and other agreements signed with the federal government. Some of these were earmarked for specific areas. In the case of the bridging program and the Mackenzie Valley roads, it was to deal with some of the resource development pressures. We had included the Tuk to Inuvik stretch of road in our submission. It was not accepted. It did not meet the criteria for the federal government. That is why it is not in this budget, Mr. Speaker.
Further Return To Question 333-15(4): Implementation Of Corridors For Canada Ii Document
Question 333-15(4): Implementation Of Corridors For Canada Ii Document
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Supplementary To Question 333-15(4): Implementation Of Corridors For Canada Ii Document
Question 333-15(4): Implementation Of Corridors For Canada Ii Document
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Calvin Pokiak Nunakput
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have one last question for the Minister. Is there any possibility that the department can find extra funds for this winter to actually pour some gravel from the source to town, Tuktoyaktuk? Thank you.
Supplementary To Question 333-15(4): Implementation Of Corridors For Canada Ii Document
Question 333-15(4): Implementation Of Corridors For Canada Ii Document
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Further Return To Question 333-15(4): Implementation Of Corridors For Canada Ii Document
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Michael McLeod Deh Cho
Mr. Speaker, we are doing an assessment of the gravel needs in the community. Transportation has taken the lead on some of this stuff to provide the stockpiling. I couldn't tell you right now whether that is going to happen in Tuk this year. We have to do an assessment with all of the different departments and see what their needs are in terms of requirements for this coming fiscal year. I will have to get back to the Member as to if there will be a stockpiling program or not this year. Thank you.
Further Return To Question 333-15(4): Implementation Of Corridors For Canada Ii Document
Question 333-15(4): Implementation Of Corridors For Canada Ii Document
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The Speaker Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Before I go on, I would like to draw Members' attention to a request that has come to the Chair from our Member for Monfwi. As we know, our Member is using his language in the House whenever he can. He informs the Chair that the interpreter is having a hard time keeping up with Members' statements and oral questions at times. So I would just ask that Members keep that in mind and maybe slow down a bit to give the interpreter a chance to keep up with what is being said. Thank you, Members. Oral questions. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre, Mr. Hawkins.
Question 334-15(4): Compliance With GNWT Sole Source Contract Procedures
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Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in October of last year, I rose in this House with questions to the lucky Health Minister we have over here about sole sourcing purchases that are going directly south and the concern that several Yellowknife businesses had brought to me with the fact that they felt left out of the picture of bidding opportunities. They felt slighted by the process. Mr. Speaker, I wrote to the Minister about the policy. Two days ago in this House, I tabled a letter to me from the Minister of Health and Social Services regarding medical supply businesses. He says they follow the GNWT procurement program process. If I read one sentence, I am going to ask him what they are doing about it, which is some authorities appear to comply. Others have misinterpreted the policy and others appear to comply. What is the Minister doing about this problem that people are not complying to our policies? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Question 334-15(4): Compliance With GNWT Sole Source Contract Procedures
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The Speaker Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. The honourable Minister of Health and Social Services, Mr. Miltenberger.
Return To Question 334-15(4): Compliance With GNWT Sole Source Contract Procedures
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the deputy has been tasked and quickly recognizes the need to follow-up with all of the CEOs and the various authorities to review the processes and appropriate procedures and ensure that they are put into place on an ongoing basis. Thank you.
Return To Question 334-15(4): Compliance With GNWT Sole Source Contract Procedures
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Supplementary To Question 334-15(4): Compliance With GNWT Sole Source Contract Procedures
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Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I emphasize Yellowknife businesses were missing out on opportunities that they felt that they didn't even get to see the bid on. These are the same businesses that are filing taxes here, so that should make our Finance Minister happy, but they are also being asked to donate to the community. If I can point out sole sourcing on a tabled document here on May 31, 2005, for Health and Social Services, it is a sole source directly that was $18.5 million out of their total contracting budget area which was $20 million, so that represents 92 percent of contracts went sole sourcing. What is the Minister going to do to make sure we correct this and have it measurable, deliverable, so I can go out to the Yellowknife Centre businesses and say to them that this government is doing something about this problem? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Supplementary To Question 334-15(4): Compliance With GNWT Sole Source Contract Procedures
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Further Return To Question 334-15(4): Compliance With GNWT Sole Source Contract Procedures
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we will ensure that we are appropriate and guidelines are followed and procedures are followed. But I would like to point out, as well, that we have some very significant contracts that are with a specific provider. The one that immediately comes to mind, of course, is the capital health authority, where we have over a $10 million arrangement with them to provide services. We have numerous arrangements for children in care that are very specialized services that we just don't put out to tender. In cases where it is appropriate, we are talking about goods and services and it makes sense, we make sure that the guidelines and policies are followed. I have committed to that. The Member should just be aware that there are a significant number of contracts in the business that we do. By virtue of necessity, they are done the way they are. Thank you.
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Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I really appreciate the Minister pointing that out because that lead well into my next question. The Minister said that there are significant contracts. I will bow to his expertise. Yes, there are very significant contracts that probably do need to go to sole source. But, Mr. Speaker, out of the 75 contracts awarded that are over $5,000 on this tabled document, 58 of those are sole sourced. That means 17 went out to any type of competitive bid. That is telling you that 77 percent of these contracts of over $5,000 went to sole source. Mr. Speaker, how can we measure that in a fair and equitable way? I think people in the Northwest Territories are missing out on fair opportunity. What is the Minister going to do about that? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Supplementary To Question 334-15(4): Compliance With GNWT Sole Source Contract Procedures
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Further Return To Question 334-15(4): Compliance With GNWT Sole Source Contract Procedures
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Member has the document. I am not quite sure what the question is. I have indicated that we have identified, in some parts of our operation, we have to pay better attention and be more diligent in how we apply the contracting processes. We are going to do that. I would suggest that, as we bring forward in our accountable way how contracts are let and what contracts are let, we should hopefully see an improvement. Thank you.
Further Return To Question 334-15(4): Compliance With GNWT Sole Source Contract Procedures
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Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To further emphasize my point, and I do appreciate how the Minister was very forthcoming on this information, because I believe it was a lot of work to put it together, but under Stanton Territorial Hospital authority, northern suppliers supplied $156,000. In comparison, southern suppliers supplied $1.75 million. That means northern suppliers supplied eight percent at the Stanton Territorial Hospital.
Mr. Speaker, the Department of Health and Social Services, under the sole source contracting ledger here, made up 43.6 percent as a government as a whole for sole source. So it looks like the Department of Health and Social Services certainly has a different conduit for putting out public tenders. Mr. Speaker, my last question to the Minister is, what is he going to do to ensure that every single contract that can get out there gets out there for a fair and public opportunity for businesses? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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