The answer was no. Okay, thank you, Mr. Chairman. So when I was bringing up the issue that there is no means test applied to seniors occupying public housing units in that last set of questions, and I asked how we -- and again, through no fault of the seniors, but it's a government program -- how do we rationalize that to the fact that we are saying that we have a critical housing shortage everywhere, and yet we will continue to build and offer seniors' units for zero rent? When I asked that question, I was given some answer that had something to do with ECE and assessments and subsidies. So now what does ECE have to do with it? If your rent is free, why do you have to go to income support at ECE? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.