Thank you, Mr. Roland. Final supplementary, Mr. McLeod.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to know how many other Perry buildings there are in Inuvik. Has DPW been inspecting these buildings to make sure we don't find ourselves in another situation like this? I would like to know what the plans are for the future with the workers and with the government buildings. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Mr. Roland.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, for the record, the Perry Building is not our asset. It is a leased building and we are working with the landlord around the issues that have just come up. The issue of how we deal with our own inspections and so on is something that we have started to take a look at. In fact, they are trying to beef up that side within the department around the risk side of the equation when we look at our facilities and assets. So we are starting to move in that area and working with Municipal and Community Affairs in the area of inspections and how they occur. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Oral questions. The honourable Member for Range Lake, Ms. Lee.

Thank you, Ms. Lee. The honourable Minister responsible for WCB, Mr. Dent.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would be happy to ask the governance council to review the situation and the classifications. I think it is important that everybody understand that WCB is a non-profit insurance program. What they do is group employers together, collect the premiums from them in order to pay for injured workers' pensions and medical requirements. This isn't a situation where the WCB would be pocketing the money. One of the reasons that the rates have gone up over the past few years is also because, in the year 2000 through 2003, the WCB was in a surplus position so they had 125 percent of the funds that were acquired. So they were operating up to a 30 percent discount on the rates in order to bring their surplus down. Obviously, as they bring their surplus down to the position they should be in, that means that the discount disappears. So there has been a significant reduction in the discount which people who are paying the rates would see as increases. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Supplementary, Ms. Lee.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, there is no implication on my part that the WCB is punishing these people to make money. I understand this is not a profit organization. I know it is an insurance organization. I know there were discounts when the investments were going well, but the increases have been up in the period after that. So that is not so relevant anymore. Mr. Speaker, I also understand that insurance is about spreading liability, but, in this situation, when you have a classification of businesses that is seeing a maximum increase every year for four years in a row, there has to be an automatic step there for the governance council to look at to see what is going on and how they can reduce the rates. Would the Minister ask that, to have an automatic provision there? Thank you.

Thank you, Ms. Lee. Mr. Dent.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will check with the governance council. I would be surprised if they didn't do that already. If not, I will suggest to them that they consider making that one of their policies, that

they review those classifications where they are seeing this sort of increase on a regular basis. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Final, short supplementary, Ms. Lee.

I have a short supplementary. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I learned that, obviously, there are a whole bunch of different classifications of businesses, clusters of businesses. In any given year, there are classifications where there is no increase. Then there are a whole bunch of classes that go up to the max. We need to review this because we are a small jurisdiction. Would the Minister ask the governance council to spread the pain and the liability in a more fair way? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you, Ms. Lee. Mr. Dent.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The governance council brought in a team of actuaries -- I think the name was Morneau Soveco -- in the year 2004 to take a look at how the structure of the classification should be set up and make some recommendations. They are moving towards accomplishing those recommendations.

I guess we can ask the governance council to examine the situation, but there will be, of course, those employers who say that their rate classification is not seeing the level of accidents. They don't feel that they should subsidize rate classifications where the accidents are on the increase. That is largely what drives rate increases. If a group of employers, one of the groups or subgroups is seeing a number of accidents, then their rates tend to go up. But I would certainly be prepared to ask the governance council to take a look at the reasoning behind their decisions to move to the rate structure that was set in 2004 and make sure that they are valid. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Oral questions. The honourable Member for Nahendeh, Mr. Menicoche.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Minister of ECE just with respect to, as well, my Member's statement. I had a couple of constituents, Mr. Speaker, that had some SFA loans last year and they didn't do too well during the first semester. As a result, they lost all funding for that year plus the second semester. It caused quite a grievance to them. In fact, one of the students ended up actually quitting, Mr. Speaker. Is that something that is ongoing with the SFA Program? Can we look at changing that, because it creates quite an unnecessary burden on our students, especially if it is like a one-time thing in the first semester? It is not that they are bad students. It is just that they are experiencing difficulties in the transition, moving to a different location, Mr. Speaker. If the Minister can answer that for me.

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. The honourable Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Dent.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Without knowing the details of the situation, I can tell the Member that it sounds like a situation that we have probably dealt with through the changes to the regulations this year. Last year, a student had to complete successfully 75 percent of a full course load in order to be considered successful. It was measured term by term. We have changed things this year so that the measure of success is 60 percent success of a full-time course load and we measure that success over the entire school year rather than over one semester. I believe that in the situation the Member is talking about, under our current regulations, the student would find the situation much more acceptable.

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Supplementary, Mr. Menicoche.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I was just wondering if our appeal system is retroactive. In the situation I was talking about last year, the student was actually asked to return SFA funds for the whole year, based on his difficulties. He still did well in the second semester. How can we address this, Mr. Speaker, in our appeal system? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. Mr. Dent.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. With situations like this, when they came to my attention, I agreed with the members who brought them to me and said, this isn't right. We need to make changes to the regulations. That is what we have done. Unfortunately, I don't have the power to change regulations like that retroactively. Once a debt is owed to the government under the Financial Administration Act, the Minister or the appeals committee can't resolve that. Only the Legislative Assembly, through an act, can forgive debts to the government.

We have a situation where people are caught with last year's regulations. They have to live with the way those regulations were set. But going forward, we have changed it to be far more responsive, I think the Member will find, to our students' needs. Thank you.