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Administration Of Territorial Sports Organizations
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, along with my colleague from Thebacha, I, too, would like to speak to the frustrations that are facing the territorial sport organizations in applying for funding. The Canada Winter Games were recently held in Whitehorse and many NWT athletes that were there held their own against the rest of the country. Many of the coaches and mission staff and those that are directly involved with the athletes are volunteers, Mr. Speaker. It's these volunteers that allow the athletes to compete. We ask the volunteers to coach and mould our athletes and yet we offer them very little support.

Volunteers have to fill out a lot of applications, Mr. Speaker, for funding. They don't get much help in filling out those applications, and then they have to account for everything afterwards and they don't get much help in doing that, either. We have over 27 different sport organizations, as my colleague pointed out, and each one of them face the same problem. I've seen the table of all the money that was owed by these territorial sport organizations and it amounted to a lot of money, Mr. Speaker.

We have too many boards within the sport organizations and, like so many things within the government, we tend to have too much admin at the top and that takes a lot of money away from those that directly use the program. It's a problem that's right across the board, Mr. Speaker. A new sport council was formed recently and came into effect and that didn't really have the blessing of a lot of the territorial sport organizations.

Mr. Speaker, we have to offer support to the volunteers with the amount of paperwork that we expect them to fill out. I do know volunteers that have been burned out because they're expected to do so many things and they'd rather just step back and not have to deal with the politics and the admin of sports. This takes away from those who these programs were really designed for, Mr. Speaker, and those are the athletes.

I met a guy one time who was a goaltending coach for one of the NHL teams and he said the North has some of the best natural athletes he's ever seen. We just have to make sure we nurture them. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

Administration Of Territorial Sports Organizations
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Members' statements. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre, Mr. Hawkins.

Performance Audits Of Crown Corporations
Item 3: Members' Statements

March 13th, 2007

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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In February 2006, I made a statement on the need to perform regular performance or value for money audits on Crown corporations owned by the GNWT. At the time, the Finance Minister indicated he was open to examining the issue and possibly considering an expanded role for our very own Audit Bureau. Over a year has gone by and I have yet to hear anything from our fine Finance Minister on this issue and there have been no concrete steps on implementation of this idea.

We all know that Crown corporations are subject to annual financial audits by the Auditor General's office, who examines the books and ensures that financial reporting practices are in accordance with the recognized accounting principles. But I don't think we should stop there, Mr. Speaker. While this is a valuable exercise, it does not provide the directors of the Crown corporation or the stakeholders, the residents of the NWT as represented by this government, with any indication that all the resources are being managed efficiently, economically, or the operations are being carried out effectively and the assets are truly in safeguard. Federal legislation provides that indication, and as the Auditor General's office has pointed out to me in her letter, this is one of the major differences between the different level of governments; that special examination of Crown corporations.

There is a need to move ahead on this file, Mr. Speaker, and we have the opportunity before us through the upcoming review of our Financial Administration Act to accomplish this, to strengthen the NWT's legislation. The Auditor General's office has indicated that they would be willing to assist. Mr. Speaker, Canada's top auditor, Sheila Fraser, has made an offer that would be truly unreasonable for this Assembly to refuse. This is an olive branch of accountability, Mr. Speaker, that would provide and serve all northerners well. It would provide an independent point of view that our Crown corporations are giving us value for money.

All we need to do is the recognition by this government for the need to monitor operational practices of our Crown corporations on a regular basis. All we need to do, Mr. Speaker, again, is just ask. It won't cost us much and it will cost us everything if we do not consider this seriously.

Mr. Speaker, I will have questions at the appropriate time for our Finance Minister. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

Performance Audits Of Crown Corporations
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Members' statements. The honourable Member for Sahtu, Mr. Yakeleya.

Northern-based Research Capabilities
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have some concerns brought to me by my constituents. Almost all the research taking place in our region is coming from outside institutions in the Northwest Territories, specifically my region. Communities are not being brought into the research that involves them, that serves their own needs. It always serves the institution needs or the organization needs. Yet they receive numerous research proposals from institutions based on the outside, Mr. Speaker.

The reason that the community wants to be involved is that they can learn too, so they can strengthen their ability to participate in decision-making processes. This is a matter of life and death for my people, Mr. Speaker, who are now facing major social impacts of development in our region. Yet despite the major investments in research in the Northwest Territories in honour of our International Polar Year, virtually none of the research will directly involve the benefits of northern communities.

Mr. Speaker, as I said, in recognition of International Polar Year, the Northwest Territories has a golden opportunity to establish a research institution as a centre for excellence in community-based research, especially in social and cultural research. Mr. Speaker, in the early part of the decade, the Aurora Research Institute did have a full-time staff person responsible for promoting and supporting community-based research. Projects supported in the Sahtu region and elsewhere were very, very successful, but this position has not been fulfilled.

Mr. Speaker, I will have questions for the Minister at the appropriate time regarding how can the community get involved in this type of research in terms of what can the government do to strengthen our research and our capabilities in terms of looking after the people first and the institutions second. Mr. Speaker, thank you very much.

---Applause

Northern-based Research Capabilities
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Members' statements. The honourable Member for Range Lake, Ms. Lee.

Addressing The Needs Of Northern Immigrants
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, Census Canada released results from a 2006 survey yesterday which seems to more accurately reflect the demographics of the NWT population. I'd like to acknowledge the Stats NWT for doing the work they did in assisting Census Canada with the work. When we get our funding per capita, every head counts, obviously, Mr. Speaker, and this also just shows you why we need to do more things in the North, not in Ottawa, to get the things done right.

Mr. Speaker, one of the things that emerged from the 2006 Census is that Canada now gets most of its population growth from immigration and will continue to do so in future. If this is the case, I don't believe our country as a whole is doing enough to prepare and plan for what this means to us in all aspects of our Canadian life. This is especially true for the NWT where we also experience a huge influx of immigrants from all over the world.

Last fall, the application to the federal government to get a small amount of funding for an immigration support centre in Yellowknife was denied. We don't even have enough staff at the immigration office to answer most basic questions about immigration or other related issues. Just

last month, I read an article from the Deh Cho Drum about someone in Fort Simpson who was asked to travel to Inuvik to be sworn in as a Canadian. Obviously, someone in Ottawa does not know how much it costs to go to Inuvik or how far it is from Simpson.

Mr. Speaker, even in Yellowknife, over 200 people had to wait over two years, after going through all the necessary procedures, just to be sworn in as Canadian citizens because we don't have enough Canadian citizenship judges in Canada. Mr. Speaker, this doesn't go anywhere near all the issues that we have raised about accreditation of foreign-trained professionals to be able to be employed in jobs that they're trained to do, skills that we could use in the North, that continue to be unfilled in some of these jobs.

Mr. Speaker, as is the case with every other thing we face in the North, Ottawa doesn't understand the extent of the needs of the northern immigration population from over 140 countries who live in Yellowknife and NWT. Mr. Speaker, as someone who was given everything she has from the singular privilege of being an immigrant to Canada, I worry about what our future holds for us. If we are going to maintain and grow our population by immigration, we need to implement a plan. Mr. Speaker, may I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement?

Addressing The Needs Of Northern Immigrants
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

The Member is seeking unanimous consent to conclude her statement. Are there any nays? There are no nays. You may conclude your statement, Ms. Lee.

Addressing The Needs Of Northern Immigrants
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In conclusion, Mr. Speaker, if we are going to maintain and grow our population by immigration, we need to employ a plan that would bring new and old people together and raise everyone to an equal playing field. Territorially and nationally I believe this is a sleeper issue that will challenge us a great deal as a nation unless we pay attention to this at the level it deserves. I'd like to urge this government and the federal government to address these issues, not just as an issue of number of votes, but an issue that is important to our economic and political future. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

Addressing The Needs Of Northern Immigrants
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee. Members' statements. Returns to oral questions. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre, Mr. Hawkins.

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'd like to recognize Marino Casebeer, a constituent of mine. I believe he's just gotten a job recently with Arctic Energy Alliance, so I suspect he's here for the announcement later today. Thank you.

---Applause

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for Deh Cho, Mr. McLeod.

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I, too, wanted to recognize Sam Gargan from my hometown of Fort Providence, former Speaker and MLA for Deh Cho. Welcome.

---Applause

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for Sahtu, Mr. Yakeleya.

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'd like to recognize a friend I met the other day, a former Member of the House of Parliament, Mr. Andrew Chatwood. Also sitting with him, his daughter, Susan Chatwood.

---Applause

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. If we missed anyone in the gallery today, welcome to the House. I hope you're enjoying our proceedings. It's always nice to have an audience in here.

---Applause

Oral questions. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre, Mr. Hawkins.

Question 25-15(6): Performance Audits Of Crown Corporations
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions will follow the line my Member's statement drew out, so my questions will be directed to the Minister of Finance. Mr. Speaker, in short, I want to make sure our Crown corporations are giving all the NWT citizens value for money. Mr. Speaker, my question, therefore, is, is there a value to the directors of the Crown corporations and the GNWT shareholders in conducting occasional performance audits on Crown corporations? Can the Minister indicate whether there has been any progress on this file since I raised the issue back in February 2006? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 25-15(6): Performance Audits Of Crown Corporations
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. The honourable Minister responsible for Finance, Mr. Roland.

Return To Question 25-15(6): Performance Audits Of Crown Corporations
Question 25-15(6): Performance Audits Of Crown Corporations
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the area of accountability is something we take seriously within this government. We have reviewed our administration act, the Financial Administration Act, as well as our Financial Administration Manual, and highlighted a number of areas where there's a fair bit of accountability that falls into place. Instead of going to each section, I can provide that information to the Member. Thank you.

Return To Question 25-15(6): Performance Audits Of Crown Corporations
Question 25-15(6): Performance Audits Of Crown Corporations
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Supplementary, Mr. Hawkins.

Supplementary To Question 25-15(6): Performance Audits Of Crown Corporations
Question 25-15(6): Performance Audits Of Crown Corporations
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate the offer from the Minister. Mr. Speaker, in the letter I

tabled last week -- and the Finance Minister does have a copy of this -- Sheila Fraser, our top Auditor General here, talks about the great things value for service that audits do. Would the Minister be willing to take a serious look at this letter and take the Auditor General's office of Canada up on the service they are willing to provide to ensure we have value for service in our Crown corporations?

Supplementary To Question 25-15(6): Performance Audits Of Crown Corporations
Question 25-15(6): Performance Audits Of Crown Corporations
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Mr. Roland.

Further Return To Question 25-15(6): Performance Audits Of Crown Corporations
Question 25-15(6): Performance Audits Of Crown Corporations
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, each corporation that we're involved with has an act that establishes and talks about accountability. As I stated, through our acts we have accountability as well. As well, the third-party accountability framework is another piece that we've recently added, as a government, when it comes to how corporations are involved and spend money in the Northwest Territories.

As well, through the Auditor General of Canada's office, when and has in the past, from time to time, been called to come and look at a number of issues within the Government of the Northwest Territories departments and corporations and, in fact, were recently involved in the Housing Corporation. We're waiting for that report. So they have been involved and we'll continue to work with them from time to time as called upon. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 25-15(6): Performance Audits Of Crown Corporations
Question 25-15(6): Performance Audits Of Crown Corporations
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Supplementary, Mr. Hawkins.

Supplementary To Question 25-15(6): Performance Audits Of Crown Corporations
Question 25-15(6): Performance Audits Of Crown Corporations
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I can't deny that the Finance Minister was correct on that information. However, I'm talking about a proactive approach that actually gets ahead of the problem before it gets away from us. I'm talking about getting ahead of the problem so we don't have to work on trying to force and try to reach a compromise to have these big, deep, forensic-style audits. So, Mr. Speaker, the fact is the Auditor General will do this. All we have to do is put it in a line item now that we have the FAA open. Would the Minister reconsider that? Thank you.