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Supplementary To Question 464-15(5): Resource Royalty Trust Fund
Question 464-15(5): Resource Royalty Trust Fund
Item 6: Oral Questions

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David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask the Premier this question and I have asked questions previously with regard to using some of the resource revenue monies to establish a permanent trust fund in the Northwest Territories so future generations can get a dividend off our vast resource riches we have here in our territory. The State of Alaska has one. Each and every year, $900 to $2,200 is paid to each and every person that lives in Alaska. Has the Premier asked the federal government why we can't look at establishment of a permanent trust fund here in the Northwest Territories? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 464-15(5): Resource Royalty Trust Fund
Question 464-15(5): Resource Royalty Trust Fund
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. Mr. Handley.

Further Return To Question 464-15(5): Resource Royalty Trust Fund
Question 464-15(5): Resource Royalty Trust Fund
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, yes, we have proposed that to the federal government and directly to the Prime Minister, as well as to Minister Prentice. I can't recall exactly, but I believe I had the same discussion with the Minister of Finance.

Mr. Speaker, our long-term interest and our short-term interests are...(inaudible)...with the federal government. It really baffles me why we aren't able to come to some kind of agreement with the federal government on this instead of this silence we are hearing. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 464-15(5): Resource Royalty Trust Fund
Question 464-15(5): Resource Royalty Trust Fund
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Handley. Mr. Ramsay.

Supplementary To Question 464-15(5): Resource Royalty Trust Fund
Question 464-15(5): Resource Royalty Trust Fund
Item 6: Oral Questions

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David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Maybe we should start singing O Canada before our proceedings each and every day. That might be another message to the federal government that this is part of Canada and they should give us a fair deal. I would like to ask the Premier if he could, and I know these discussions have taken place, but for Regular Members on this side of the House we just don't have the evidence. What is the government doing? We are six months away from the end of the life of this government and we want some evidence that these hard questions have been asked to the federal government. I think the Premier should supply the Regular Members of this House with that evidence. Mahsi.

Supplementary To Question 464-15(5): Resource Royalty Trust Fund
Question 464-15(5): Resource Royalty Trust Fund
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. Mr. Handley.

Further Return To Question 464-15(5): Resource Royalty Trust Fund
Question 464-15(5): Resource Royalty Trust Fund
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, there has been a lot done on our side. Let me say that going back to 2001, as I mentioned yesterday, the non-renewable resource development strategy. That one laid out the costs of developing non-renewable resources, where the benefits should be and our whole plan of how we would spend the money. Mr. Speaker, that has been given to Members and so on. Mr. Speaker, there are also infrastructure plans put together on transportation coast to coast to coast and a northern transportation strategy. We have a number of these with other provinces and ourselves. There is the bridge program. We have a number of years saying to the federal government we are going to be responsible with this. If responsibility is any doubt in their minds, then the Minister of Finance has the work to get the fiscal responsibility policy in place saying people, look, we are responsible, we are big people here, we will look after our money properly.

So there has been a lot that has been done that has been provided to Members. Mr. Speaker, some days I am at a loss what more we can do. Why are we not getting this message through to the federal government in spite of our efforts on all the fronts? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 464-15(5): Resource Royalty Trust Fund
Question 464-15(5): Resource Royalty Trust Fund
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Handley. Final supplementary, Mr. Ramsay.

Supplementary To Question 464-15(5): Resource Royalty Trust Fund
Question 464-15(5): Resource Royalty Trust Fund
Item 6: Oral Questions

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David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I think it's virtually important that we do get that message out. This government has had three and a half years to get the message out to Ottawa. We have been standing up in this House since the day I got elected, asking questions about resource revenue sharing and devolution. Like I said, six months from now there is going to be a new government and we are no further ahead in Ottawa. So, Mr. Speaker, what is the Premier's strategy in the next six months to try to deliver on some of the promises that this government has made to northerners? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 464-15(5): Resource Royalty Trust Fund
Question 464-15(5): Resource Royalty Trust Fund
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. Mr. Handley.

Further Return To Question 464-15(5): Resource Royalty Trust Fund
Question 464-15(5): Resource Royalty Trust Fund
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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, as I have already said on several occasions, negotiations are continuing. Negotiations are happening almost on a weekly basis now. The federal negotiator, as I said, is a tough negotiator but we are going to continue with that.

Mr. Speaker, I have also offered to work with the Members. I hope to hear from you. I will work with committee chairs. Mr. Speaker, I am also in contact with other people who have been, in recent history, through similar kinds of challenges that we face right now to get their expert advice as well. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 464-15(5): Resource Royalty Trust Fund
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Handley. Oral questions. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre, Mr. Hawkins.

Question 465-15(5): Funding For Yellowknife Schools
Item 6: Oral Questions

March 8th, 2007

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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In my Member's statement today, I spoke about schools. Schools are about children, Mr. Speaker. Now when I have expectations for my own children, Mr. Speaker, I communicate the consequences of the actions immediately in a timely way. For example, I asked one monster to stop beating on the other one then and there, rather than wait. So can the Minister explain to me why he took so long to express and communicate his expectations and the consequences of them to the Yellowknife school board at the end of February as

opposed to explaining them in September? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 465-15(5): Funding For Yellowknife Schools
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. The honourable Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Dent.

Return To Question 465-15(5): Funding For Yellowknife Schools
Question 465-15(5): Funding For Yellowknife Schools
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In meetings with the facilities committee, I started telling them what I thought they should be looking at as early as May and June. That continued through the summer and into August. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Return To Question 465-15(5): Funding For Yellowknife Schools
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Supplementary, Mr. Hawkins.

Supplementary To Question 465-15(5): Funding For Yellowknife Schools
Question 465-15(5): Funding For Yellowknife Schools
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I think this decision or this type of discussion certainly is two years overdue. Mr. Speaker, will the Minister be picking up the extra cost if YK 1 decides to lease the school? Will they be picking up the extra costs associated with the bussing, the money spent to date for the planning of the next school year that we have now rendered useless and, further, will they be picking up the cost of the severance packages if staff have to be laid off? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 465-15(5): Funding For Yellowknife Schools
Question 465-15(5): Funding For Yellowknife Schools
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Mr. Dent.

Further Return To Question 465-15(5): Funding For Yellowknife Schools
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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am not convinced that there would necessarily be cost for laying off a number of staff. I think that the amount of money that YK 1 could use could be put into programming if they were to reduce some of the duplication in overhead that they have in keeping an extra school open. It's stated in the letter and I have always said to YK 1 that we are prepared to look at reasonable transition costs. We are obviously going to be wiling to discuss those. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 465-15(5): Funding For Yellowknife Schools
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Supplementary, Mr. Hawkins.

Supplementary To Question 465-15(5): Funding For Yellowknife Schools
Question 465-15(5): Funding For Yellowknife Schools
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Now the new formula defines school boards is to choke one by his new design of funding arrangement. Now, Mr. Speaker, if YK 1 does not give in to the new funding arrangement he has decreed on one school board, not equally across the Northwest Territories, what is the next plan?

Supplementary To Question 465-15(5): Funding For Yellowknife Schools
Question 465-15(5): Funding For Yellowknife Schools
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Mr. Dent.

Further Return To Question 465-15(5): Funding For Yellowknife Schools
Question 465-15(5): Funding For Yellowknife Schools
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yesterday, the Member talked about consistency across the Northwest Territories. Yellowknife has a unique situation. We have two public boards in Yellowknife that collect taxes from the public. Most jurisdictions across Canada have gotten away from that. Alberta doesn't allow local boards to collect taxes anymore, nor does Ontario. If we are going to talk about a consistent approach here, maybe we have to talk about removing local taxation ability and funding all boards across the Territories in the same manner. I am wiling to take a look at that. That would, however, have some impact here because the local boards have been using local taxation as a means to improve the services over and above what can be delivered in other communities. In fact, they have to spend the equivalent of somewhere between 103 and 105 percent of what they would have through the typical formula. So if it's a consistent approach we want for Yellowknife, we can take a look at that. Right now, I agree, Yellowknife is treated differently in our system.

Further Return To Question 465-15(5): Funding For Yellowknife Schools
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Final supplementary, Mr. Hawkins.

Supplementary To Question 465-15(5): Funding For Yellowknife Schools
Question 465-15(5): Funding For Yellowknife Schools
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

I appreciate the Minister not answering the question, Mr. Speaker. This question really was about the fact that if YK 1 decides not to lease or give up a school, he has no school. I would like to hear what happens now. Thank you.