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Increase To Yellowknife Gasoline Prices
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I wish to speak today about something funny going on at our gas pumps in Yellowknife. Mr. Speaker, we know the rising price of gas has been on the national news because the prices keep going up and staying up. But what is an issue for a Yellowknife resident who called me last week is that the gas price went up by six cents per litre one day last week and there should be no reason to. Mr. Speaker, the ice bridge has been out for weeks. We know we have no permanent bridge over the Mackenzie River. This should tell us that the gas at the pumps has been brought here weeks ago if not months ago. So we have to ask why such an increase? We can't think of any reason other than to say it is just to be fashionable with the rest of Canada. I believe the word we use for that is gouging because it is just for more profit margin on the same old stock.

Mr. Speaker, the question about gouging has been raised in Yellowknife before and it is being raised in the rest of Canada. In the past, the old industry used major natural disasters like Katrina or the ongoing Middle East conflict like the Iraq War, but we haven't had a natural disaster like Katrina lately and there is no other war in the Middle East, thank goodness for that, but what is the excuse for the latest price hike?

Mr. Speaker, another line by the industry is that we don't have adequate refinery facilities in North America and they can't turn crude oil to gas fast enough to meet the demand. Well, is that an excuse or a conspiracy, Mr. Speaker? We know about the gazillion dollars in profits all oil producers make each year. Why don't they use some of that money to build refineries to bring the price down and create jobs? There has not been a new refinery built in North America in decades. Mr. Speaker, why do they keep allowing all the gas pumps to be built but not enough gas to keep the price down? Mr. Speaker, the last statement I heard from the president of the Petroleum Association based in Calgary on CTV is that he said the prices keep going up. We keep thinking the demands will go down, but that is not happening so the price can't go down.

Mr. Speaker, so they keep the price high, demand stays high and they laugh all the way to the bank.

Mr. Speaker, may I seek unanimous consent to finish my statement?

Increase To Yellowknife Gasoline Prices
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

The Member is seeking unanimous consent to conclude her statement. Are there any nays? There are no nays. You may conclude your statement, Ms. Lee.

Increase To Yellowknife Gasoline Prices
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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have to say they surely have us where they want us. They know we can't make our own gas. Conveniently, every gas station, no matter what name brand except for the Co-op, keeps the price high so there is not even really competition in gas pricing. As the news said, we can continue to suck it up, but I think we should all try to reduce the use of gas so that we could try to make an attempt to reduce demand, but that is not going to happen fast enough. The real action has to come from the government. We need to demand the federal government and all the provincial governments to do something to even the playing field for the hapless consumers. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

Increase To Yellowknife Gasoline Prices
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee. Members' statements. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre, Mr. Hawkins.

Pet Policy In Disabled Housing
Item 3: Members' Statements

May 10th, 2007

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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. May I begin today by reminding all Members today is red Friday and I am wearing a red tie to honour our Canadian Armed Forces.

Mr. Speaker, in 1859, Florence Nightingale, the famous founder of our modern nursing profession, promoted the important role pets play in therapy. She said a small pet animal is often an excellent companion for the sick, especially those battling long, chronic conditions. Since then, many studies have proved the benefit of human

animal bonds. Medical and emotional improvements have been recognized as a result of therapeutic value found in pet therapy. Multiple sclerosis patients have found their pets to be one of the greatest comforts during their ups and downs of the disease.

A constituent of mine, Mr. Speaker, Ms. Carmen Tees who is in our gallery today, knows exactly what Ms. Nightingale advocated for almost 150 years ago and what studies have confirmed since then. My constituent suffers from MS and finally has the opportunity to move into a barrier-free home. Understandably, she was pleased to see an apartment building that was finally being built that would meet her special needs right out her front window. Unfortunately, there is one problem. My constituent was told no pets are permitted in this building. She has a cat as her long-time companion pet for some time now and has stated that she will not move into this building if she cannot bring her pet. She needs her cat, a therapeutic aid, for comfort, emotional well-being and to help her cope with her long-struggling illness. This new building has no carpet. All the floor surfaces have linoleum and they can be easily cleaned. A no pet policy seems completely unnecessary. At the very least, there must be some discretion to allow people with pets for therapeutic reasons in this building.

Mr. Speaker, the GNWT must look at this policy and deal with this situation. Yesterday, I tabled in this House the two cases provided to me by the Human Rights Commissioner where it shows and demonstrates clearly that a no pet policy should not apply to people who have disabilities when they have doctors' notes saying that it is an important role into their long-term health and gain.

Mr. Speaker, we don't need a human rights case to go on here. We can do the right decision today because we know what the right decision is by allowing people who need pets for therapeutic reasons to enter this building. Mr. Speaker, I will have questions for the Housing Minister later today. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

Pet Policy In Disabled Housing
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Members' statements. The honourable Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes, Mr. McLeod.

Devolution And Resource Revenue Sharing Agreement-in-principle
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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, again today, I want to commend the group for signing the AIP.

Devolution And Resource Revenue Sharing Agreement-in-principle
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An Hon. Member

Hear! Hear!

Devolution And Resource Revenue Sharing Agreement-in-principle
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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Speaker, they showed real leadership. This is something that has been a long time in the works. We have to start somewhere and we have a foundation in place. Now we have to build something on top of that. Some may feel that this AIP was rushed into. Mr. Speaker, my understanding is that this process has been going on for over 30 years. I know we operate on NWT time up here, but 30 years is not rushing into anything.

---Laughter

We might not have all the groups on board right now, Mr. Speaker, but I am sure the door is being left open for them to sign when they feel like they are ready to contribute to the future of the NWT.

The amount of money we lose, Mr. Speaker, still causes me a great deal of concern. Many projects could be partially funded by a lot of this money, including a road to the gravel source in Tuk. My colleague from Tuk makes a legitimate case for a road, but still nothing. Perhaps if Tuk was in the southern NWT, they might get something.

Devolution And Resource Revenue Sharing Agreement-in-principle
Item 3: Members' Statements

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An Hon. Member

Hear! Hear!

Devolution And Resource Revenue Sharing Agreement-in-principle
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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

This issue, Mr. Speaker, continues to anger and upset me. I want what is good for the people of Inuvik Twin Lakes. I want what is good for the Inuvialuit because I am an Inuvialuit. I also want what is best for the Northwest Territories because I live here and I do plan on being here until they plant me. Mr. Speaker, it upsets me because I do not like having something that is rightfully ours taken from us. People get taken to court for taking something that is not rightfully theirs. I think it is a position we have to take sometimes.

In closing, Mr. Speaker, I again commend the leadership for starting the foundation with the signing of the AIP. I urge the remaining leadership to join the cause and add their voice to the voice of the NWT because it will give it so much more strength. We have to tell Ottawa, Mr. Speaker, that enough is enough. We won't stand by anymore while they continue to pick our pockets. Thank you.

---Applause

Devolution And Resource Revenue Sharing Agreement-in-principle
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Members' statements. Returns to oral questions. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. The Member for Yellowknife Centre, Mr. Hawkins.

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is an honour today to recognize Ms. Carmen Tees. She is a constituent of mine. She suffers from MS. She is here today because of this important issue that I have been raising in my Member's statement. She will further hear my questions. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for Great Slave, Mr. Braden.

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to recognize a constituent, Mr. Jim Peterson, a former president of the NWT Tourism Association and a sports hunting and fishing outfitter, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Braden. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for Range Lake, Ms. Lee.

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it gives me great pleasure to recognize students from Range Lake North School: Robert Digness, Austin Tanner, Allison

Web, Trent Broom, Dakota Hamilton, Jensen Hu, and with them the teacher, Jason Perrino. I would also like to recognize Mr. Peterson.

---Applause

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. If we missed anyone in the gallery today, welcome to the House. I hope you're enjoying the proceedings. Acknowledgements. Oral questions. The honourable Member for Range Lake, Ms. Lee.

Question 56-15(6): Increase To Yellowknife Gasoline Prices
Item 7: Oral Questions

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, following up on my Member's statement, I'd like to just ask the Minister of Finance what is his explanation for the gas prices in Yellowknife stations going from $1.19 to $1.25 when he knows that we have no bridge and unless they flew the gas in, which I don't think they did, it's the same stock. So if he could try his best to answer to start with. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 56-15(6): Increase To Yellowknife Gasoline Prices
Item 7: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee. The honourable Minister responsible for Finance, Mr. Roland.

Return To Question 56-15(6): Increase To Yellowknife Gasoline Prices
Question 56-15(6): Increase To Yellowknife Gasoline Prices
Item 7: Oral Questions

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I guess I want to be clear that in responding to this question I'm not defending big oil and the way they set their prices. However, from the work from the Department of Finance, nothing has changed in the way we deal with the fuel price in the Northwest Territories or from the fuel tax that we have on fuel in the Northwest Territories. So the prices that are changed are as a result of what we were told when we raised this issue with industry, is rack price adjustments that happen throughout Canada. For example, when this issue was raised in my constituency of Inuvik, I made some calls to find out what was happening, so I'm going on that response that I got because the changes aren't as a result of what we're doing. It's a result of the rack price changes and how fuel is stored and then sold as it leaves that storage facility into trucks and service stations. Thank you.

Return To Question 56-15(6): Increase To Yellowknife Gasoline Prices
Question 56-15(6): Increase To Yellowknife Gasoline Prices
Item 7: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Supplementary, Ms. Lee.

Supplementary To Question 56-15(6): Increase To Yellowknife Gasoline Prices
Question 56-15(6): Increase To Yellowknife Gasoline Prices
Item 7: Oral Questions

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think we can establish there have not been new tax increases from the GNWT. The Minister is saying rack price adjustment but what we see is, and we can tell, that the gas they were selling last week is the gas they would have gotten at least before the ice bridge went out and chances are it's been there for months. We can't think of any increased costs, so I think another word for rack gas pricing adjustment is gouging. So I'd like to ask the Minister, if someone is selling the same...This product doesn't change; they didn't bake it fresh that day; it's the same stock and the price goes up. So would the Minister agree that this may be gouging? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 56-15(6): Increase To Yellowknife Gasoline Prices
Question 56-15(6): Increase To Yellowknife Gasoline Prices
Item 7: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee. Mr. Roland.

Further Return To Question 56-15(6): Increase To Yellowknife Gasoline Prices
Question 56-15(6): Increase To Yellowknife Gasoline Prices
Item 7: Oral Questions

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I guess many in the Northwest Territories may term it or state that it's a form of gouging, but the practice has been throughout industry that -- and I'll use an example -- again, my community when the prices started going up, we know, for example, in communities that don't have highway systems or barge, for example, Inuvik gets its fuel supply by barges and we know that that barge delivery happens in early summer and it's put into storage facilities within Inuvik under one of the larger companies. It isn't until that gas leaves that storage facility, is put into a truck for delivery that the price is set. So the rack price on the market-of-the-day is what it's spotted at and charged at that rate. So that's, when I talk about rack price, the way it happens. In the large companies, the large suppliers, as the fuel leaves its facility into the delivery truck, the price is set at that time. Thank you.