Thank you, Mr. Braden. Mr. Roland.

Thank you, Madam Chair. It breaks down into a number of categories. For example, assisted living in seniors' units. The rental subsidy there is about $478,908; independent seniors' caretaker units, $75,948; and O and M for independent seniors' units makes up the remainder of $242,760.

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Braden.

Okay. What is the difficulty or what are the issues that ECE is encountering that it cannot administer this along with so many of the other contribution programs that are made through housing? Madam Chair, it's quite a confusing piece of work here. I am just trying to make sure I am not missing anything here.

Thank you, Mr. Braden. Mr. Roland.

Madam Chair, as stated, it's money that was originally part of the original transfer, now back to Housing Corporation and deals with the two categories of assisted living for seniors and independent seniors caretaker units. For more of the detail, I believe Mr. Dent can provide it.

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Dent.

Thank you, Madam Chair. All of the funds were transferred over as part of a global program, but afterwards we discovered that, like most landlords, the Housing Corporation had been providing either free rent or reduced rent to caretakers of buildings. So the buildings had a caretaker who looked after them. That's a Housing responsibility; it's not one of the income support programs. So this wasn't really a subsidy to someone with a low income. So it's more appropriately handled through the Housing Corporation. So since it's a management function making sure that the caretaking of the units is looked after, the way that that's done is through either free or reduced rent to somebody who is the caretaker of the unit, not a unit but a building. We've transferred the money back to the Housing Corporation, so through their local housing authorities they can properly administer the operations of the buildings.

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Mr. Braden.

How many buildings and how many caretakers are we talking about here, Madam Chair?

Thank you, Mr. Braden. Mr. Roland.

Thank you, Madam Chair. The total number of units is 45. I should add a little more detail. It's not only about the independent seniors' caretaker units. There are only seven of those units. When you look at assisted living for seniors and the way the services are provided, it's level two senior level care provided at the Jimmy Erasmus Centre in Rae-Edzo and support services for the cognitively impaired adults at the Stanley Isaiah Centre in Fort Simpson. So because there is a health attachment to that area, it was felt that it was best not suited to be in public housing but back in the Housing Corporation where both departments can work cooperatively on that. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Braden.

Okay. So we are blending a health issue, housing issue, a staffing issue all in a bundle here. I am beginning to understand now, comprehend the intention here and I don't find any argument with it, but the manner in which it's presented is very obtuse, Mr. Chair. I guess it makes me a bit frustrated in having to deal with these sums because $800,000 is no trifling matter.

I also wanted to ask, Mr. Chair, it's called contribution funding to the NWT Housing Corporation. Is this new contribution funding that we are turning over to the Housing Corporation or is it a transfer from ECE of money that you've already got, so we are just moving it back and forth? Why is it called contribution funding then? Perhaps I may not be paying close enough attention. Is there an offsetting amount somewhere else in the supp? Right now, this looks like new money going into the Housing Corporation, at least the way it's stated here, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Braden. Mr. Minister.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chairman, there are a couple of ways this breaks down. One is the $798,000 is not new money. It's in and out. The other portion is offset by, I believe, you are referring to the $1.080 million was your second question. No? Okay, the $798,000 initial amount that was raised is not new money. It's a matter of the way we flow money now because of the recommendations made by the Auditor General of Canada. The money comes through the Financial Management Board Secretariat and is now flowing through FMBS and then to the Housing Corporation.

That's as a result of recommendations from the Auditor General.

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Braden.

Okay. Thank you. There is further in the supp an offsetting amount, a similar amount. Thank you. That satisfies my question about new money or just switching pockets here. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I think I've exhausted that one. I do hope the Minister has taken some notice to sometimes the degree of information provided and just how clearly stated some of these programs are, these projects are. Mr. Chairman, that's all, thanks.

Thank you, Mr. Braden. Financial Management Board Secretariat, directorate, not previously authorized, $2.623 million.

Government accounting, not previously authorized, $19,000.

Total Financial Management Board Secretariat, not previously authorized, $2.642 million.