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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Okay. With that, we’ll take

a short break, and we’ll continue on with Education, Culture and Employment.

The Committee of the Whole took a short

recess.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

When we broke, we

agreed to continue on with Education, Culture and Employment.

Main Estimates 2008–2009 Department Of Education, Culture And Employment
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

We can turn to page 7-5,

Infrastructure Acquisition Plan. With that, I’d like to ask the Minister if he’ll be bringing any witnesses.

Main Estimates 2008–2009 Department Of Education, Culture And Employment
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Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Yes, Mr. Chair.

Main Estimates 2008–2009 Department Of Education, Culture And Employment
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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Is the committee agreed

that the Minister can bring his witnesses?

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Some Honourable Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Sergeant-at-Arms, please

escort the witnesses in. For the record, Mr. Minister, could you introduce your witnesses, please.

Main Estimates 2008–2009 Department Of Education, Culture And Employment
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Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Chair. To my

left I have the deputy minister, Dan Daniels, and to my right I have the director of strategic and business services, Mr. Paul Devitt.

Main Estimates 2008–2009 Department Of Education, Culture And Employment
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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Minister.

Welcome, witnesses.

We’re on page 7-5, Infrastructure Acquisition Plan, Education, Culture and Employment, Total Capital Assets: $21.728 million. Mr. Bromley.

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Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. On École

Allain St-Cyr, phase 2, I’m just wondering if there are reasons why that has been delayed a year and what the role is of our partnerships in funding this project.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

The Minister of

Education.

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Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr.

Chair. I’ll

certainly get Mr. Devitt to elaborate a bit after I do my opening on this particular item.

We are in consultation with the federal government, because they do have a role to play in this particular second-phase project we’re referring to. From my understanding, my department has met with the federal counterparts just last week. There is ongoing consultation with them.

At the same time, if I can just get Mr. Devitt to elaborate in more detail about what actually took place and where we’re at.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Devitt.

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Paul Devitt

Mr. Chair, part of phase 1 of École

Allain St-Cyr was to complete the schematic design for phase 2. We completed that I think more than a year ago and submitted that to Heritage Canada for consideration. Since that time, there was a community plan put forward for a larger community centre to be part of phase 2. We were able to consult with the various groups, including the FFT, and to actually change the schematic design for phase 2. We did this in the last several months and submitted the revised plan to Heritage Canada. As the Minister commented, we have had a teleconference with staff from Heritage Canada. We are planning another one in the next couple of weeks to answer their questions about the changes to the proposal.

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Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thanks for that background. Do we

know what the various roles in funding this will be for the different groups and governments involved here?

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Paul Devitt

Mr. Chairman, it’s a little early to say

anything. I can say that the more recent focus of Heritage Canada has been on shared or community spaces and the funding of that.

Main Estimates 2008–2009 Department Of Education, Culture And Employment
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Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Will there be some non-government

dollars as well, or will these be pretty much federal and territorial dollars?

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Paul Devitt

Mr. Chair, at this point we’re just talking

to Heritage Canada, although additional community partnerships are always an option.

Main Estimates 2008–2009 Department Of Education, Culture And Employment
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Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

That’s fine. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Ms. Bisaro.

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Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I did have a

question on this project as well. I was given to understand, I think through an agreement with the Commission Scolaire and probably Heritage Canada or the federal government — and it may have had to do with the court case as well, actually — that this project was supposed to be completed by 2011 or 2012. That’s not what’s indicated here. Could I get a date of completion? There’s $13.973 million in future years. Is that all in 2011–12, or is that over a number of years? Is there a particular reason why this project is not going to be completed until after 2011?

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

The Minister of

Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Lafferty.

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Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr.

Chair. As

Mr. Devitt indicated, I think we’re at the preliminary stages with the federal government. We just gave them a schematic design. There’s been a consultation with them through teleconference. We did highlight the future costs of $13 million, as the Member indicated. At this stage we are waiting on the federal government to get back to us so that we can proceed forward. That’s our situation right now as it stands.

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Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

So I guess from that answer, then,

that there’s no estimated date of completion for this project.

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Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

As it stands now, we don’t

have the actual date of completion, but we will formulate the schedule once it’s confirmed by the federal government, their commitment of funding, and also from our department once we move forward. Then we’re going to have those dates for the Members.