This is page numbers 2513 - 2558 of the Hansard for the 16th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was work.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Vician.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Peter Vician

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The investment in the NWT Hydro Strategy is a multi-year investment and, as the Member indicated earlier, one that is needed to assess the feasibility and the engineering and environmental elements of such a project and there are a number of projects we are looking at. This contribution proposal would be directed to the Northwest Territories Energy Corporation which houses the expertise in the NWT for energy initiatives of this scale. Work proposed for 2009-10 will continue to identify, compile, prioritize locations in the Northwest Territories that are best first for hydro development in the Northwest Territories.

Much work has been done previously and all of that work would be considered and utilized, but the

intent is to look again at the work done in the past. It would also assist and supplement any additional works that would be necessary for projects like Lutselk’e or Whati, the Taltson projects that are ancillary to possible main business case for supply to the mines, line option issue that could supplement hydro to some of the other communities.

But overall what it’s looking at is energy supply for the NWT from hydro solutions in the Northwest Territories. This begins the multi-year process of investment in that area. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Vician. Mr. Bromley.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you. I appreciate those remarks. Also, I am wondering where the Minister would categorize where we are at with each of the projects under the energy contributions category here in terms of the prefeasibility, feasibility, ready to develop and so on. If I could take advantage of this and just ask him to repeat the amounts to be allocated for each of those. Those were read off pretty quickly and I didn’t quite capture them earlier. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Okay. Thank you, Mr. Bromley. Maybe it’s possible if we could get a printout of that to circulate around and everybody can see what those projects are, if that’s okay with Mr. Bromley. Mr. Bromley.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thanks, Mr. Chair. Yes, you are thinking the amounts there and I was also asking for what the status is, where we are for each of those projects.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. Minister of ITI.

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Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Lutselk’e mini-hydro, $250,000. We expect some of the work will take place this year. It will probably take a couple of years. Whati mini-hydro transmission line, $250,000. We see that we need to have some clarification between the community and the Tlicho Government on whether there is a meeting of the minds on that. Fort Providence transmission line, the planning work, $200,000. We expect that will take place this coming fiscal year. Similarly, Bear River feasibility, $100,000. That will take place this coming year. In-stream hydro project, $250,000. We expect some preliminary planning work will take place this year in a test site. The expansion of residual heat, $1.5 million. That one we expect to begin work in communities that have been previously identified: Holman, Fort Liard, Fort Simpson, Inuvik. I guess those are potentially communities that could fall under that. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Yakeleya.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

I would like to ask the Minister, Mr. Chair, how much is going to be allocated to the Deline project.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Minister of ITI.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. We have for the first year about $100,000 and potentially $1.6 million over the three years. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Minister, is it possible to get copies of that? I think it’s good that all Members have the same copy you are reading off of.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. We will provide information to the Members.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Yakeleya.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

So just for clarification, you say the Deline project, you said $100,000 and $1.6 million over the next three years. Is this the Bear River? That’s other projects that could be identified by…I know the community of Tulita has initially looked at one area where they think they could produce some energy at a reasonable mini-hydro project. I am asking specifically for the Deline project as it’s been in the books for the last…Is this something that the Minister is saying to me that…I am not too sure if it’s in line with what I read before in terms of the Bear River feasibility. Is that something like that? Deline is a separate project like Whati or Lutselk’e. Deline has somehow dropped off the books here. Now I don’t know if they are mish-mashed with the other projects that are supposed to be considered for the Sahtu.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Minister McLeod.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The Member is correct. We are looking at the Bear River Project, but under the Hydro Strategy there is potential of $1.5 million a year and that’s where if the Deline project comes forward with a project with proven technology, that’s where we would see us funding it from. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

I certainly appreciate the Minister’s clarification. I guess the next big task would be to agree on what is proven technology in terms of different variations of what proven technology is. I hope that through the Energy Strategy and the Deline mini-hydro project, that they get some blessing in terms of implementing the mini-hydro project. I am very disappointed in the books that it doesn’t identify itself. It identifies Whati and Lutselk’e with their hard work and those two communities are similar to Deline and somehow it got mixed up in terms of the funding here.

Mr. Chair, I want to ask on other initiatives in terms of other regions here. I know there are some good ideas out there. Is there a fund there that other regions could look at with small projects? Again, I don’t know if the definition from the department is small in terms of small projects on hydro initiatives that they could implement in their communities and produce cheap energy for the communities.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

As we indicated, we will work very closely with the community to flesh out their project and to move it forward and identify the funding for it. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Minister. With that, we will take a short break. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Bob Bromley

Committee, I’d like to call Committee of the Whole to order and we will continue with the detail on Industry, Tourism and Investment. We are on page 12-22. Mr. Krutko.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, I would just like to read something with regard to the budget address on page 8. It says the budget proposed an increase in funding for energy conservation and efficiency in government buildings and public housing for $2.5 million. Included in this fund is $1.5 million to develop and expand residual heat systems in Kugluktuk, Fort Liard, Fort McPherson, Fort Simpson and Inuvik by capturing ways to heat through heat exchangers and technology in those communities will reduce heating fuel consumption and greenhouse gas emissions. I would just like to note that you didn’t mention Fort Simpson, Fort Liard, Kugluktuk and also Inuvik. Is that the same $1.5 million that you mentioned for other communities? I would just like clarification, because that’s what is in the budget address but it’s different on this page.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Bob Bromley

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Minister McLeod.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I stand corrected. The Member is correct. The list should have included Ulukhaktok, Fort Liard, Fort McPherson, Fort Simpson, Inuvik, Holman Island and it’s to develop or expand residual heat. I stand corrected. Thank you.