This is page numbers 2061 - 2094 of the Hansard for the 16th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was communities.

Environmental Remediation Of Abandoned Gas Stations
Members’ Statements

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I’d like to speak about an issue of safety that affects all our northern communities. It is an environmental concern, a liability of abandoned gas stations here in the North. Abandoned gas stations are a problem because long after the doors close and the profits are taken and gone, those underground fuel tanks are still there and sometimes even the spills are there until they are forced to clean these up. These sites usually require substantial environmental cleanup and remediation, but it will sit there until they’re forced to.

In Yellowknife there are at least two gas stations that are sitting empty in prime commercial space; one sitting downtown in my riding and the other sitting between Tim Horton’s and Wal-Mart. Mr. Speaker, this has an effect on the community. Mr. Speaker, they’re fenced in but they look more like eyesores than anything.

Mr. Speaker, the community-at-large is not expecting these to be cleaned up because they know deep down inside there is no one forcing them to clean these properties up. Where is the public interest in this issue? Mr. Speaker, I don’t think there is any interest at all. It’s my understanding, Mr. Speaker, that there are no municipal bylaws that can force these property owners to clean up and remove those tanks and those properties as long as they are paying their property tax. The eyesore and potential environmental liability sits there and waits.

I think the territorial government should step up to the plate and should create a property law in the Northwest Territories that forces these people, when they walk away from these sites for more than a year and they certainly have no intent to reopen these facilities, that they should be acting in the interest of the public. The public stewardship should be taken as first priority and that should be that they clean these sites up. I’d hate to think that many owners have walked away from these sites and they’re going to ignore their liability for as long as they can, but some do. Sometimes that falls on the public purse to take responsibility of what should be done up front.

Mr. Speaker, I have problems with this, but I’d say that there are solutions. The Alberta government has a solution for assessing part of the cost and the remediation of those sites up front. Mr. Speaker, I think there are plenty of examples of where we can find solutions to this problem. What about performance bonds up front? We could start considering those actions to make sure the public interest is always foremost on our minds.

Mr. Speaker, in closing, the potential health and environmental risks are underpinned by a process that is inadvertently protecting by them paying their taxes and then not being forced to clean up. Mr. Speaker, I stand with the community in making sure that our environment is clean and we are responsible. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Environmental Remediation Of Abandoned Gas Stations
Members’ Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. The honourable Member for Sahtu, Mr. Yakeleya.

Proposed Mini-Hydro Project In Deline
Members’ Statements

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, there are eight communities in the Northwest Territories that have hydro development power. Mr. Speaker, these hydro development powers were the gift of the federal government when they had NCPC. Mostly these hydro stations were there because of the mining companies south of the lake of the Great Slave Lake and that area here. These hydro power initiatives that were a gift by the federal government then became the gift of the Northwest Territories and those communities that do enjoy the low cost of hydro power. These eight communities are all on all-weather road highway systems in terms of their connection with this power here, compared to 23 diesel communities that are not on hydro power plus the two communities that are served by natural gas. The 23 communities, Mr. Speaker, five of these 23 diesel communities are on the highway system, 18 of them are fly-in communities where the high cost of living is double, sometimes, compared to Yellowknife rates or even triple in terms of Edmonton’s rates in terms of the inflation.

Mr. Speaker, I look forward to this government’s initiative in terms of the NWT Hydro Strategy and also the document that came out in terms of review of regulations and review of the Power Subsidy Program and electrical rates in the Northwest Territories.

My issue, Mr. Speaker, is with the community of Deline. I have been pursuing this initiative on the hydro project to the Bear River hydro that didn’t come through, so now they’re looking to mini-hydro. I would ask this government here to consider the Deline mini-hydro as a project that is high on its priorities in terms of its Hydro Strategy, in terms of the cost of living, in terms of how can they proceed with the community and this government through the lead Minister of the Energy Coordinating Committee in terms of putting some serious dollars, sitting down with the community, iron out their differences in terms of what is the best for this community in terms of bringing the costs of living down and having the community be an owner in terms of having mini-hydro in the community.

My issue will be with the lead Minister on the Energy Coordinating committee in terms of the Deline mini-hydro project. Thank you.

Proposed Mini-Hydro Project In Deline
Members’ Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. The honourable Member for Kam Lake, Mr. Ramsay.

Confidence Motion Debate
Members’ Statements

David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Mr. Speaker, I’d like to speak today about Friday and the motion that was narrowly defeated. I’d like to thank all of my constituents who gave me their thoughts and feelings on this motion. I appreciate and respect the views that I got from all of my constituents. I just wanted to take a moment today to summarize why I supported the motion and where do we go from here.

For me, the motion on Friday would have addressed a number of concerns, the biggest one being the proposed changes to the Supplementary Health Benefits Plan. It would have been an opportune time to ask a potential new Premier and Cabinet what their positions on the changes were and whether or not they supported it.

The same can be same for board reform, Mr. Speaker. Do you support the initiative, yes or no? It would have made it easier to hold the Premier and Cabinet accountable for these items had they confirmed it through the Territorial Leadership Committee.

Also, the issue of the Opportunities Fund and the future use of these dollars could have been on the table. An interesting note to this, Mr. Speaker, is that on Friday afternoon, while the motion to remove the Cabinet was being defeated, the deal closed on the $34 million loan, which was quite a coincidence.

As it pertains to the economy, it would have been a great time to ask a new Premier and Cabinet some very important questions on how they would stimulate the NWT economy.

Mr. Speaker, these opportunities passed us by on Friday and now it’s time for us to move on. I certainly hope that the Premier and Cabinet were not high-fiving each other this morning during Cabinet, but rather trying to understand and appreciate all of the issues that brought us to presenting this motion on Friday. I’d hope that they’d come up with a plan to address these real concerns. Mr. Speaker, we want good government -- honest, open and transparent communications -- not backroom deals, half-hearted delays, poor policy and bad communications. These are the reasons people in the Northwest Territories were upset while Members were upset. Mr. Speaker, as we move forward, the questions and the scrutiny

will be getting much more severe. Mr. Speaker, there will be a tremendous amount of pressure put on Members to work together, as the Premier said, to find a way. Mr. Speaker, I do hope to be a part of the solution as we go forward from here and I look forward to discussions that are going to take place. Thank you.

Confidence Motion Debate
Members’ Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

: I would like to recognize some very special visitors in the gallery today. We have10 young women and men who are visiting us for a few days from the Ontario Legislature Internship Program. They are here to observe consensus government in action, and I’m sure, being familiar with the Ontario Legislature, that they will find that we are very well-behaved in here. I want to recognize Emma Stanley-Cochrane, Chelsea Peet, Meghan Buckham, Angela Hersey, Kim Hokan, Tejas Aivalli, Igor Delov, Waqas Iqbal and David Donavon. Welcome to the Legislative Assembly and welcome to Yellowknife.

---Applause

The honourable Member for Nunakput, Mr. Jacobson.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Jackie Jacobson

Jackie Jacobson Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, today I’d like to recognize my wife in the House and welcome her to the Legislative Assembly. Thank you.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Jacobson. The honourable Member for Weledeh, Mr. Bromley.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Just to repeat, I’d like to welcome the members of the Goyatiko program on languages and interpreters translation. Welcome to the instructors Mary Rose Sundberg and Betty Harnum. Also the students, again: Jeannie Martin, Stella Martin, Margaret Martin-Baillargeon, Nora Crookedhand, Irene Soldat and Alice Wilflad. Welcome.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. The honourable Member for Yellowknife South, Mr. Bob McLeod.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

I’d like to recognize a friend and classmate in Fort Smith way back when and a fellow golfer, Alex Wilflad.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Monfwi, Mr. Lafferty.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mr. Speaker, I too, would like to recognize Mary Rose Sundberg and

also Betty Harnum and the students for keeping up the good work continuing with our traditions. Mahsi.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. If we’ve missed anyone in the gallery today, welcome to the House. I hope you’re enjoying the proceedings. Item 6, acknowledgements. Item 7, oral questions. The honourable Member for Nunakput, Mr. Jacobson.

Question 74-16(3): Water Treatment Plant In Sachs Harbour
Oral Questions

Jackie Jacobson

Jackie Jacobson Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In my Member’s statement today I spoke of the problems that are occurring in the ongoing successful operation of the water treatment plant in Sachs Harbour; problems with freeze-ups and chlorination that are impacting my constituents’ access to safe drinking water on a consistent basis. My questions are for the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs, the Honourable Robert C. McLeod. Can the Minister tell me in this Assembly: what is this government doing to address the issues that affect the operation of the Sachs Harbour water treatment plant?

Question 74-16(3): Water Treatment Plant In Sachs Harbour
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Jacobson. The honourable Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs, Mr. Robert McLeod.

Question 74-16(3): Water Treatment Plant In Sachs Harbour
Oral Questions

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Speaker, I’d like to assure the Member and the residents of Sachs Harbour that the government takes the issue of safe drinking water very seriously and we’re committed to finding resolution for the issues that have been plaguing this plant in Sachs Harbour as soon as we can. Right now we’re working with our partners at Public Works and Services at identifying the solution for the intake pipe to the water treatment plant. We’re at the design approval stage right now and hopefully I’ll be able to provide the Member with more information when that becomes available.

Question 74-16(3): Water Treatment Plant In Sachs Harbour
Oral Questions

Jackie Jacobson

Jackie Jacobson Nunakput

Thanks to the Minister for that information. I’m pleased to hear that DPW and MACA are working closely together on providing a solution to this issue.

On the issue of the boil water advisory, can the Minister tell me when we expect to lift the ban on the drinking water?

Question 74-16(3): Water Treatment Plant In Sachs Harbour
Oral Questions

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Speaker, we’re waiting right now for the hamlet to complete some remedial work at the plant and in the water delivery truck itself. When we get two clean water samples

in a row, the environmental health officer will more than likely remove the boil water advisory.

Question 74-16(3): Water Treatment Plant In Sachs Harbour
Oral Questions

Jackie Jacobson

Jackie Jacobson Nunakput

The Minister answers and speaks to the issue I raised in my Member’s statement and that’s that everyone, including the hamlet staff, have a role to play in the delivery of our safe drinking water and share some of the blame for the current situation. Can the Minister tell this Assembly what the department is doing to support the hamlet in acquiring the necessary training for the hamlet staff in dealing with the operations and maintenance issues?

Question 74-16(3): Water Treatment Plant In Sachs Harbour
Oral Questions

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Speaker, as I mentioned, our partners at Public Works and Services are working to make sure that all the equipment in the water treatment plant is functioning. As far as MACA goes, MACA is always working to ensure that water treatment plant operators are trained in the operation of the plant and ensuring standards can be maintained. MACA is contributing significant resources, as far as this goes, and this is one of the benefits of having bundled water treatment plants, where you have the water treatment plants in each community that are pretty well the same and you train one community plant operator and then they can basically answer questions in the other ones. It’s all interchangeable parts and everything. I think that would be a good thing for the future of water treatment plants.

Question 74-16(3): Water Treatment Plant In Sachs Harbour
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta, Mr. Krutko.

Question 75-16(3): Archaic Bankruptcy Legislation In The Northwest Territories
Oral Questions

David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Mr. Speaker, my question is directed to the Minister of Justice in regard to my Member’s statement in regard to the NWT Exemptions Act. In relation to this legislation, like I said in my statement, was that it was basically enacted in 1948 and it’s still pretty well in the books on what was stated, which talks about items that basically, when you talk about livestock, you talk about bees, you talk about fowl, waterfowl I suppose. I don’t know what that’s all about, but again it’s so outdated it doesn’t really meet the reality of the Northwest Territories today.

One of the first things that was done in Nunavut, once they became a Nunavut Territory, is they made amendments to that legislation. I’d like to ask the Minister of Justice exactly what the government is doing to speed up or make amendments to the NWT Exemptions Act so that the people that do file for bankruptcy realize they are going to be going

through a tough time, but also ensuring that we have bankruptcy legislation that’s similar in other jurisdictions and other territories across Canada so that they can also get a fair break realizing that they are going to be going through some tough times. I’d like to ask the Minister of Justice, where are we in this legislation? How soon are we going to bring it into the House?

Question 75-16(3): Archaic Bankruptcy Legislation In The Northwest Territories
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. The honourable Minister of Justice, Mr. Lafferty.