This is page numbers 4179 - 4230 of the Hansard for the 16th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was community.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Just to understand this a little further, why wouldn’t it be listed under the School of Community Government, then, if it’s primarily focused under their tenureship through new water treatment plants? If I understood that. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

Aumond

It’s sort of a partnership approach. The money that we have in community operations is available for a circuit rider for course development water licence funding, as I mentioned before, and also some technical support as well. In addition to that, we do work with our partners in Public Works and Services in looking at some remote monitoring and testing out new treatment technologies that might be available when we’re putting in new plants. The training aspect of it is from the School of Community Government in addition to what you will find provided by community operations. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

The Chair

The Chair Bob Bromley

Thank you, Mr. Aumond. Committee, once again, we’re on page 6-22, activity summary, Municipal and Community Affairs, community operations, grants and contributions, contributions, $200,000. Agreed?

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

The Chair

The Chair Bob Bromley

Thank you. Page 6-23. Mr. Krutko.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

I just have a question on community operations. I want to just throw a general question out there. Has this department ever considered decentralizing your department and putting more of a focus on a community-based effort by way of a regional operation? It seems like all your positions are at headquarters but I don’t see anything in the regions. But if you’re talking about community operations, if anything, you should be closer to the communities. So I’d just like to know, has that ever been considered by way of restructuring this department so that you’re more community based but, more importantly, closer to the communities either at the regional centres versus at headquarters.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

The Chair

The Chair Bob Bromley

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Minister McLeod.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The ones that we have in headquarters are usually support to the regional operation folks. So the bulk of our positions and the bulk of our work is done in the region and these folks here are just support to the regions. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Mr. Chair, the reason I raise the question is because I’ve been working on projects in my riding, regardless if it’s looking at shoreline erosion for Aklavik or main street chipseal for Fort McPherson or some sort of youth centre for Aklavik or even an outdoor skating rink, but it seems like that corporate knowledge is no longer at the regional level. I mean, either through retirement and whatnot. But yet a lot of this information is still compiled at headquarters. I think that you have to find a way to improve the relationship between communities and not say, well, sorry, we gave you the money, that’s the end of it; we’ll wipe our hands of you and walk away. For me, you still have a fundamental role to play because you have the corporate knowledge that those communities need so that they have the information so when they consider things such as shoreline erosion, which the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs was responsible for the last time they did any major work on shoreline erosion for Aklavik, that information is still at headquarters.

The same thing in regard to the main street chipseal program for Fort McPherson. Again, the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs along with the Department of Transportation did a study in nine communities. Again, that corporate

knowledge is at headquarters. I think we have to find a way of getting that information and getting the resources and the people that have that knowledge or basically have that information. It’s easy to access from the community level and not have to call headquarters or talk to somebody at the regional office who does not know what you’re talking about or has never had the experience or has the knowledge of what happened in the past. I think it’s important and that’s something that has to be considered by headquarters and, more importantly, these positions cannot just simply stay at headquarters. There has to be that process of ensuring that you have dialogue with the communities, with regions and, more importantly, help them build that capacity and, more importantly, have that information so that when they do develop a proposal or whatnot, that the information is there that a lot of money has been spent already so that we don’t have to redo all that research and development all over again. So again, I think the department has to re-look at these positions and, more importantly, find a way to get them closer to communities, especially down to the regional level.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Chair, we still continue to work closely with the communities. The people at the regional office are usually their first point of contact and they should be able to provide them with all the information they get. I know in some cases copies of particular reports were provided to the regional office, to the communities, but there’s still the first point of contact and they’re working closely with the communities. If they need more information as to what went on in the past, then they’d normally contact community operations in headquarters and they’d be able to provide them with that information. The regional offices are usually the first point of contact and they’re working quite closely with the communities in any… If a community needs assistance, then they would usually call the regional office and they’d do all they can to provide the assistance to the community. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

The Chair

The Chair Bob Bromley

Thank you, Minister. We’re on page 6-23, information item, Municipal and Community Affairs, community operations, active positions. Any questions?

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

The Chair

The Chair Bob Bromley

Page 6-25. Mr. Hawkins.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

February 14th, 2010

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Although my issue I’m going to raise probably fits perfectly on 24, but certainly fits well on 6-25 as well. Ultimately, I just want to continue to exercise my personal opposition to the School of Community Government being under MACA. I have no issue with the School of Community Government. If anything, I wish to assure them that I do believe in the work that they provide. But the issue I take, and

I try to take it every year and maybe someday, somewhere, someone will see my point, which is the alignment of where it should be.

I believe strongly that the School of Community Government actually belongs under Aurora College. I believe that we have a, for lack of better words, in my view it’s sort of like our training centre of excellence and I think Aurora College does a good job and I think that synergies could be built if the School of Community Government was rolled into that college. I think that a lot of people could benefit from taking School of Community Government courses through them, through the satellite offices of the colleges throughout the North. Not to say you can’t do that here, but, I mean, I think you can build on all the programs that are developed through the college and I feel very strongly about that and I would move a motion, but I’d probably be the only one who would vote for it. So I’m not going to waste the House’s time on that particular issue.

Ultimately, like I say, Mr. Chairman, I appreciate the work they do. I know it’s good work and I hope the people don’t think it’s a criticism of the work that they do, because it certainly isn’t. But, like I say, this year, as I’ve said in many, many, many other years that I think it’s just not aligned properly and the synergies I believe strongly could go a long ways if it was tucked neatly into the Aurora College portfolio. So that’s all I’d like to say at this time. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

The Chair

The Chair Bob Bromley

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Just a comment. Committee, we’re on page 6-25, activity summary, Municipal and Community Affairs, School of Community Government, operations expenditure summary, $2.950 million.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

The Chair

The Chair Bob Bromley

Committee agree?

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

The Chair

The Chair Bob Bromley

Page 6-26, activity summary, Municipal and Community Affairs, School of Community Government, grants and contributions, contributions, $760,000. Agreed?

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

The Chair

The Chair Bob Bromley

Page 6-27, information item, Municipal and Community Affairs, School of Community Government, active positions. Questions?

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

The Chair

The Chair Bob Bromley

Page 6-29, activity summary, Municipal and Community Affairs, lands administration, operations expenditure summary. Ms. Bisaro.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I had a question here with regard to the review of the

Property Assessment and Taxation Act. When we discussed business plans I believe there was some information about that, that a comprehensive review was coming at some point in time and that we were doing discreet amendments much closer, I guess, in time. Anyway, if I could get an update on when the minor amendments or discreet amendments are coming forward and when a full review of PATA is coming forward. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs.