This is page numbers 4231 - 4280 of the Hansard for the 16th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was communities.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

We’re on page 13-17, environment, operations expenditure summary, $9.345 million.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Moving on to page 13-18, grants and contributions, environment, activity summary, contributions, $5.004 million.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Information item, environment, active positions. Agreed?

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Moving on to page 13-21, forest management, operations expenditure summary. Mr. Bromley.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, my first question on this relates to our earlier discussion of biomass and the need for sustainable harvest plans and knowledge. I’m wondering where the department is at on that and is there any areas of the NWT, any at all, where we have developed an estimate of the sustainable harvest rate for the forest. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Minister of Environment.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The majority of work has been done in the South Slave and over into the Deh Cho. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

I’ve been asking for this for a couple of years now. We’ve been developing a Biomass Strategy. Obviously, that’s going nowhere unless we know what the sustainable harvest rate is for our forests. Again, I’m wondering if we’ve determined yet what the sustainable harvest is for any forest, any area of the Northwest Territories. Thank you.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

We can provide the committee the up-to-date summary of the work that’s been done to date. The focus, as we’ve been discussing here today as we look at biomass, is going to be around communities and sustainable harvest and managed forests, so a lot of the work that’s been done is starting to shift as

we look at working with communities to put in pilot projects. That determination almost on a community-by-community basis. But I’ll ask the deputy if he has any further information. If not, we will commit to provide a detailed update to committee.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Deputy Minister Bohnet.

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Bohnet

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes, we’ve put in and have been successful in obtaining some resources from some of the federal government’s coffers to expand the work on the first forest inventories. That work is being completed and we should be able to provide a report to committee in the near future. Thank you.

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Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

That’s good news, but, as the Minister said, I think we’re looking at very specific areas around communities and I don’t think we want to wait until we’ve done a forest inventory for the Northwest Territories. We want to know, you know, within a reasonable time limit of communities, what is the sustainable harvest rate for that forest. I would appreciate it if the Minister could provide an update, assuming it’s available, and demonstrate progress on that file because, again, we can have all the strategies we want, but if we don’t have the research information and the know-how on the ground, we’re not going anywhere.

I appreciate more information on the South Slave. We have had other harvests going on there specific to the timber industry and so on and recovery from fires, but this is a different sort of thing. It needs to be really focussed on communities where Jean Marie and I imagine there has been some work done in that area, but I think our expensive communities that are positioned within the forest are opportunities. That is where I am hoping to see some good progress here so that as these other things get lined up, we can really get something going on the ground. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Minister of Environment.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Mr. Chairman, I will let the deputy… He found some more information in his briefing book.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Deputy Minister Bohnet.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bohnet

The community forest inventories, the assessments have been completed for a number of the communities: Whati, Aklavik, Tulita, Yellowknife, the area near Behchoko. The areas have been done and through the Gwich’in Forest Management Plan that we are working with the Gwich’in, some of the work is continuing. Also there has been a lot of work not only done in the South Slave but also has been initiated in the Deh Cho region, those large forested areas there. They are ongoing at the present time, Mr. Chairman.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Bromley.

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Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Mr. Chairman, I appreciate that more specific information. That sounds good. We have to start there. Again, I have to admit, I’m never clear whether an inventory is the same as sustainable harvest assessment. Hopefully that is incorporated or enabled by that and we can actually get to that program. That is what community business or a community government is going to need to initiate a program. I am trying to stay as focused as possible there but, again, I appreciate that information.

I would also like to ask about the mushroom harvest as we know near Behchoko last year. It is probably greater than $1 million worth of morel mushrooms were harvested there. We visited about this in other forums that the department was going to establish whether they had the authority to manage fungi or whether they could develop partnerships with aboriginal groups or governments to develop a management policy. Obviously we have learned that it is possible to overharvest, apparently, abundant resources. I think that is true in the case of fungi as well, surprisingly, but this is a very valuable resource. I think it represents a real opportunity in those years when they are there. I am wondering what the progress and state of things on that is and if we have a little bit of funding identified for establishing that baseline. Thank you.

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Bohnet

That particular issue, fungi doesn’t come under the NWT Forest Management Act because what we have is we initiated and we actually did all the background work. We have been initiating discussions with the federal government to see some changes made to both that issue regarding mushrooms and the other one is incidental timber to both come under our jurisdiction so we could actually manage those resources. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Mr. Chairman, that is good to hear. I wonder if it doesn’t come under forestry in other jurisdictions, it comes under forest management. It is recognized as a wild crafting activity, I believe they call it in forest. I am wondering where that will be lodged. But more specifically, what is the time frame like? We could be facing another situation like this obviously next summer, this coming summer or shortly thereafter if there are big fire seasons. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bohnet

Mr. Chairman, we have finished all the internal work and have initiated discussions with the federal government here at the regional level. We are having another meeting next week. We hope to have the path forward. We indicated there is some urgency to this issue, so we are encouraging the federal government to make this and do this as fast as they possibly can. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Next I have Mr. Yakeleya.