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Question 169-16(5): Community Government Relationship With Maca
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. The honourable Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs, Mr. Robert McLeod.

Question 169-16(5): Community Government Relationship With Maca
Oral Questions

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. They do have some legislation in place. That legislation is clearly laid out what role MACA would have. So that is how we determine how we deal with those. With the other communities that are in the unsettled land claims, we do have GNWT legislation that governs our relationship with the communities. Thank you.

Question 169-16(5): Community Government Relationship With Maca
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David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Mr. Speaker, judging by the Minister’s response to that, all community governments across the Northwest Territories, whether they are in settled land claim areas or not, have an obligation to follow Government of the

Northwest Territories legislations through municipal statute and if that is the case, Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask the Minister what the role and function of MACA is when it comes to the situation currently at play in Behchoko. Thank you.

Question 169-16(5): Community Government Relationship With Maca
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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Speaker, we are concerned with the particular community the Member has mentioned. Our role is we have been asked by the community, the new community council, to come in and work with them on coming up with a plan to address all the financial issues that they are dealing with right now. They have asked us to come in and we have complied. Our officials are working closely with them right now to resolve some of the outstanding issues. Thank you.

Question 169-16(5): Community Government Relationship With Maca
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David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Mr. Speaker, I think that is good news. The department is taking an active role in this situation. Does the Minister have any idea of how long the department’s involvement with the community government there in Behchoko is going to take place or is it an indefinite period of time or is it until the community is back on its feet? What is the time frame like? Thank you.

Question 169-16(5): Community Government Relationship With Maca
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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Speaker, our involvement in this community will be until they are back on their feet again. We work with them to come up with a plan and they continue to follow the plan. That will be MACA’s involvement. Thank you.

Question 169-16(5): Community Government Relationship With Maca
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Final supplementary, Mr. Ramsay.

Question 169-16(5): Community Government Relationship With Maca
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David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In such circumstances, does the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs second somebody to the community government in Behchoko? How does that work? I just want to have a better understanding if there is going to be departmental staff on the ground in the community. Are they going to be downtown Yellowknife trying to help the community? I think they should be on the ground. If I can ask the Minister that question. Thank you.

Question 169-16(5): Community Government Relationship With Maca
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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Speaker, our staff has been in the community on a regular basis working with the community. They will continue to do so until they come up with a plan to resolve all their financial issues. Thank you.

Question 169-16(5): Community Government Relationship With Maca
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta, Mr. Krutko.

Question 170-16(5): Business Incentive Policy And Land Claims Agreements
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions are directed to the Minister responsible for the Business Incentive Policy. It is in regards to my Member’s statement and the principles that are laid out in the policy. Again, I touched on number three where it talks about the policy should not try

to dis the president and future self-government treaties or land claim-based rights. Again, I believe that under the land claim agreements and under what the government is going to be doing here in the Northwest Territories is working to develop a list of Gwich’in businesses in the Gwich’in settlement area through a Gwich’in business registry. Yet a lot of these businesses aren’t able to take advantage of government contracts that fall under BIP, and also under the land claim agreement there’s a provision that allows for consultation with the Government of the Northwest Territories whenever they’re changing policies, procedures, by way of legislation. So I’d just like to ask the Minister responsible for the BIP exactly what the government is doing to ensure we’re not prejudiced to those land claim agreements with policies that are working against the land claim agreements.

Question 170-16(5): Business Incentive Policy And Land Claims Agreements
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. The honourable Minister responsible for Industry, Tourism and Investment, Mr. Bob McLeod.

Question 170-16(5): Business Incentive Policy And Land Claims Agreements
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Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As a government we have been negotiating MOUs on contracting with different aboriginal governments. It’s under the auspices of our government policy. It’s not a requirement of any land claim. We have had that checked out. There’s been arbitration cases which have supported that aspect and certainly it is our preference to work with land claim organizations, aboriginal governments so that we can work together to provide for increased economic measures in all of the regions. We have had a memorandum of understanding on contracting with the Gwich’in which has expired, but we are continuing to recognize it and follow it in practice. Thank you.

Question 170-16(5): Business Incentive Policy And Land Claims Agreements
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you. In regard to the policy itself, again, I noted in the policy that there are certain differences and I know that I used this scenario in Inuvik where you have three hotel companies. One is a private company, one is an aboriginal company and one is a southern company, but the Government of the Northwest Territories is only using one hotel with government employees to stay in Inuvik. So I’d like to ask the Minister if there’s a way to appeal a decision or a process where you find that it has basically been encumbering other companies from doing business with the government and one company has a monopoly in that particular area where you have three businesses serving the same community and they’re all treated different. Thank you.

Question 170-16(5): Business Incentive Policy And Land Claims Agreements
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Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

Thank you. I’d like to point out that the Business Incentive Policy has been in place since, I believe, the 12th Assembly and every

government has tried to change it, without success. In this case, the Business Incentive Policy is a Government of the Northwest Territories policy. There’s a requirement for this government to use

only BIP approved facilities. In the example the Member uses in Inuvik, there are three hotels. Only one of those hotels is a BIP approved business and that is why we are only using that hotel. Thank you.

Question 170-16(5): Business Incentive Policy And Land Claims Agreements
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you. I believe that that is the problem with the policy when you have three companies in the same community. They’ve made a major capital investment in regard to the Capital Suites in Inuvik, I believe it was $12 million that they put into it. The Gwich’in put in half of that, which is $6 million, they own half the hotel and they are a local business. If anything, it’s in the Gwich’in Settlement Region, but yet because of a 1 percent difference, they are being excluded from a policy that is, basically, you know… Is there a possibility of a Charter challenge? I don’t know; maybe we should look at that. So I’d like to ask the Minister again, can this case be appealed under the land claim agreements in regard to being able to send certain aspects to an appeals tribunal to look at this thing and see exactly is it, I won’t say illegal or legal, but does it prejudice the land claim agreements?

Question 170-16(5): Business Incentive Policy And Land Claims Agreements
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Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

Thank you. In our view this is a Government of the Northwest Territories policy. It has no implications for land claims. In the example that the Member uses, I believe he’s talking about the Inuvik Capital Suites. It’s 50 percent owned by the Zheh Gwizu Limited and 50 percent by NewNorth Projects Ltd. The Business Incentive Policy is very clear as to the requirements for definition of a northern business and the Business Incentive Policy approval requires either 51 percent northern ownership or they be a grandfathered company, which has a minimum of 10 years operating in the North with resident managements, et cetera. So what I’m saying is that if we want to change it, we would have to change the policy. I don’t think that we would be able to change it by appealing it on the basis of we’re dealing with a land claims organization. Thank you.

Question 170-16(5): Business Incentive Policy And Land Claims Agreements
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Final supplementary, Mr. Krutko.

Question 170-16(5): Business Incentive Policy And Land Claims Agreements
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to request from the Minister to make an offer to meet with the Gwich’in Development Corporation, the Gwich’in Tribal Council on this matter. I believe the Minister will be in the Inuvik region for the petroleum show and I think that this matter has to be dealt with ASAP. Again, Mr. Speaker, the Gwich’in have been registered in that area going back 10,000 years. I think that if the people that originate from that area can’t meet this government test of eligibility, I think we have a real problem in regard to how this government treats aboriginal people, especially in the Inuvik region and especially the Gwich’in.

Question 170-16(5): Business Incentive Policy And Land Claims Agreements
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Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

Thank you. As I said in response to the first question, the Business

Incentive Policy predates land claims negotiations with the Gwich’in and we have a number of possible solutions. One is to change the policy. If the Members want us to consider businesses that have less than 50 percent ownership by northern business, then the policies can be changed. Otherwise, the ownership structure can be changed to increase ownership by northern residents, or, as I understand, NewNorth Projects is proposing to apply for BIP approval. So that’s another way you can deal with it. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 170-16(5): Business Incentive Policy And Land Claims Agreements
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Tu Nedhe, Mr. Beaulieu.

Question 171-16(5): Support For New Chiefs And Councils
Oral Questions

May 18th, 2010

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Mahsi cho, Mr. Speaker. Today I talked about the new chief and council for Lutselk’e. Recently the Deninu Ku’e First Nation in Fort Resolution, Metis Council, Deninu Ku’e Community Council held elections. As you know, each election brings new ideas, new personalities, along with some status quo. Mr. Speaker, sometimes this can be challenging and I have some questions for the Premier on that.

Can the Premier tell me what the GNWT does to support new councils, new chiefs, Metis presidents or even mayors to help the transition period from one community government to another? Thank you.

Question 171-16(5): Support For New Chiefs And Councils
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. The honourable Premier, Mr. Roland.

Question 171-16(5): Support For New Chiefs And Councils
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Inuvik Boot Lake

Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Premier

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The relationship we have with the band councils differs somewhat with the relationship we have with municipal councils because band councils are under federal legislation, but when it comes to the working relationship we’re trying to build with them, we’re open to helping with either transition, or, for example, we have a number of communities where the bands deliver the programs and services that municipalities would in other cases, and the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs would be able to sit down with them to go through the working arrangements, the processes that were in place prior to the election. On top of that at the regional level, from the regional leaders’ table, I’ve committed to meet with the regional leaders as well as once a year to sit down with the regional leader and the chiefs of that region. So that’s another avenue we have of building that working relationship.

Again, it’s almost case by case. If the request is made, we would consider where we could be of assistance in the transition area and we’d be prepared to sit down with them at that point. Thank you.

Question 171-16(5): Support For New Chiefs And Councils
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Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Mr. Speaker, I’d like to ask the Premier what supports are in place for the GNWT

to assist these organizations, newly elected officials and their organization, with capacity building and training of the elected officials? Thank you.