Debates of Aug. 19th, 2011

This is page numbers 6813 - 6848 of the Hansard for the 16th Assembly, 6th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was work.

Topics

Oral Questions
Prayer
Minister’s Statement 39-16(6): ‘forging The Future’ Youth Conference
Minister’s Statement 40-16(6): Community Emergency Preparedness
Minister’s Statement 41-16(6): Kindergarten To Grade 12 Education Progress
Alternative Solutions For Paying Off Housing Arrears
Early Childhood Development Policy
Giant Mine Remediation Project And Realignment Of Ingraham Trail
Recognition Of Pearl Norwegian And Family’s 125-Km Walk From Inuvik To Tsiigehtchic To Raise Money For Cancer Research
Student Financial Assistance Program
Support And Funding For The Hay River Volunteer Fire Department
Employment Rates In Tu Nedhe
Extended Service Options At The Motor Vehicles Office
Evictions And Public Housing Arrears In Nunakput
NWT Housing Corporation Shelter Review
Norman Wells Natural Gas Situation
Congratulating The Graduates Of The Deh Gah Elementary And Secondary Schools
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Support And Funding For Hay River Volunteer Fire Department
Early Childhood Development Policy
Housing Corporation Evictions And Arrears
Emergency Protection Orders (Epo) Process
Student Financial Assistance Policy
Giant Mine Remediation And Realignment Of Ingraham Trail
Extended Service Options For The Motor Vehicle Office
Funding For Employment Support In Small Communities
Housing Issues And Evictions In Nunakput
Financial Assistance For Town Of Norman Wells In Natural Gas Emergency
Tabled Document 57-16(6): Aboriginal Student Achievement Education Plan, August 2011
Tabled Document 58-16(6): Forging The Future, Anchored In The Past, Building On Our Present, Youth Conference Report, July 7-8, 2011
Tabled Document 59-16(6): Government Of The Northwest Territories Response To Committee Report 2-16(6), Report On The Review Of The Auditor General’s Report On NWT Health Programs And Services - 2011
Bill 22: An Act To Amend The Territorial Court Act
Bill 23: Tobacco Damages And Health Care Costs Recovery Act
Bill 22: An Act To Amend The Territorial Court Act
Bill 23: Tobacco Damages And Health Care Costs Recovery Act
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Concurrence Of Td 53-16(6), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2011-2012
Concurrence Of Td 54-16(6), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 2, 2011-2012
Report of Committee of the Whole
Bill 7: Community Planning And Development Act
Bill 19: Cost Of Credit Disclosure Act
Orders of the Day

Committee Motion 23-16(6): Concurrence Of Td 53-16(6), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2011-2012, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

There is detail provided in terms of where this money is going to be spent. The Member is asking what these are for. A lot of it is based on getting people in place to do the work tied to the negotiations or the implementation side. Pick some of the areas. Contaminated sites coordinators, the minerals devolution work. There’s going to be a whole range of activities that these folks do tied to either the actual negotiations or to implementation. The two are linked and often there’s going to be significant overlap tied to the workload at where we are at any particular time. The detail is here.

I would ask the Premier if he wants to add anything further, but in terms of the actual workload going forward will determine I think how that percentage of work is done between implementation and the actual negotiations.

Committee Motion 23-16(6): Concurrence Of Td 53-16(6), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2011-2012, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Mr. Roland.

Committee Motion 23-16(6): Concurrence Of Td 53-16(6), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2011-2012, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. As the Finance Minister stated, he’ll get the additional information and provide that to Members. In our budget submission I believe we shared with committee a fair bit of that, but we’ll get the additional information.

More importantly, as was stated earlier by the Finance Minister in an earlier question around implementation, this isn’t the full implementation of working to implement the deal. This is preparation for implementation. The one thing we’ve learned, as the Minister has stated, from the Yukon experience -- and the Member knows this himself from his own

work in negotiations -- there’s a big push for negotiations and when that’s done, it seems like everybody runs in a different direction and those that are left to implement find that it’s difficult to implement without that background in some of that work. That’s what we learned from the Yukon, is that as they signed their agreement, the implementation side were not really prepared for it and that took a lot of additional work. As we prepare for those, we’re also preparing for some of the challenges that we would need around implementation and making sure that we have the right information. If you negotiate a bad deal to begin with, implementation is going to be even worse. The Member is aware of that. We’ll get the additional information and provide the breakdown of the work and the percentages of the budget.

Committee Motion 23-16(6): Concurrence Of Td 53-16(6), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2011-2012, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Thank you, Premier Roland. Mr. Krutko.

Committee Motion 23-16(6): Concurrence Of Td 53-16(6), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2011-2012, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

I, too, like my colleague Mr. Bromley, can’t support this on the basis of I don’t think we’re doing justice to the people of the Northwest Territories by going ahead and not having the resources to try to get people together and find resolution to this outstanding issue. I’ll leave it at that.

Committee Motion 23-16(6): Concurrence Of Td 53-16(6), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2011-2012, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. More of a comment. Next on my list is Mr. Bromley.

Committee Motion 23-16(6): Concurrence Of Td 53-16(6), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2011-2012, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just had a quick question for the Minister. He mentioned a response to me earlier about how this will contribute to the public’s opportunity for participation in defining the northern management regime that some of these dollars will go to water management policies. I’d just like to ask him to expand on that and describe how that is planned, how these dollars are planned to be used through water management policies. Thank you.

Committee Motion 23-16(6): Concurrence Of Td 53-16(6), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2011-2012, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. Minister Miltenberger.

Committee Motion 23-16(6): Concurrence Of Td 53-16(6), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2011-2012, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. What I was referring to was some of the work we’ve done as an Assembly with regard to water, the Water Strategy, getting our thinking clear, the principles -- the policy was developed in full collaboration and support of the Aboriginal governments -- is going to inform a lot of the work going forward on devolution as it pertains to the water issue because we’ve taken the last four years of time to do that. It’s in forming our transboundary negotiations as well. That’s an example of some of the work that’s being done in anticipation of us in the Northwest Territories being able to take over that legal authority. If we waited until we had the Devolution Agreement signed and had no preparatory work done on water, we would be scrambling. People would be asking us what we’ve been doing and why aren’t we ready.

So in this case, the Assembly had the foresight to identify water as a priority and we’ve worked very hard to move that forward. It’s paying dividends today both in terms of the process we’ve developed with the Aboriginal governments and the public government, but also with the product. This is going to be a very important foundation piece for that piece tied to water in the AIP negotiations.

Committee Motion 23-16(6): Concurrence Of Td 53-16(6), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2011-2012, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

I appreciate the Minister saying much more eloquently than I can why we need to do this public consultation of the land and resource management regime as this Minister has had the foresight to do on the issue of water. I think he’s eloquently made my point. Thank you.

Committee Motion 23-16(6): Concurrence Of Td 53-16(6), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2011-2012, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. No question, more of a comment. We are on page 3, Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 2, 2011-2012, Executive, operations expenditures, executive operations, not previously authorized, $2.296 million.

Committee Motion 23-16(6): Concurrence Of Td 53-16(6), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2011-2012, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Committee Motion 23-16(6): Concurrence Of Td 53-16(6), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2011-2012, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Total department, not previously authorized, $2.296 million.

Committee Motion 23-16(6): Concurrence Of Td 53-16(6), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2011-2012, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Committee Motion 23-16(6): Concurrence Of Td 53-16(6), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2011-2012, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Human Resources, operations expenditures, directorate, not previously authorized, $49,000.

Committee Motion 23-16(6): Concurrence Of Td 53-16(6), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2011-2012, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Committee Motion 23-16(6): Concurrence Of Td 53-16(6), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2011-2012, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Total department, not previously authorized, $49,000.

Committee Motion 23-16(6): Concurrence Of Td 53-16(6), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2011-2012, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Committee Motion 23-16(6): Concurrence Of Td 53-16(6), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2011-2012, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Page 5, Public Works and Services, operations expenditures, asset management, not previously authorized, $45,000.

Committee Motion 23-16(6): Concurrence Of Td 53-16(6), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2011-2012, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Committee Motion 23-16(6): Concurrence Of Td 53-16(6), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2011-2012, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Total department, not previously authorized, $45,000.

Committee Motion 23-16(6): Concurrence Of Td 53-16(6), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2011-2012, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Committee Motion 23-16(6): Concurrence Of Td 53-16(6), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2011-2012, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Page 6, Health and Social Services, operations expenditures, health services programs, not previously authorized, $4.910 million.

Committee Motion 23-16(6): Concurrence Of Td 53-16(6), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2011-2012, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Committee Motion 23-16(6): Concurrence Of Td 53-16(6), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2011-2012, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Total department, not previously authorized, $4.910 million.