Mr. Speaker, I recall that, in previous life, when I was involved with the Fur Institute of Canada, there had been a harvesting program or high school programs that were developed so that they could be incorporated into schools and I will follow up on that and follow up with the Minister to see if we could continue that work. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Debates of Feb. 22nd, 2011
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Question 509-16(5): Take A Kid Trapping Program
Oral Questions
Question 510-16(5): NWT Greenhouse Gas Strategy
Oral Questions

Bob Bromley Weledeh
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to follow up on my Member’s statement and ask questions to the Minister of Environment and Natural Resources. There is an urgent need for an improved effort towards a new and well-founded Greenhouse Gas Reduction Plan. I have mentioned that feedback from the January round of consultations was not positive. Senior people were not there. There were no clearly costed proposals to review and it was short notice.
Mr. Speaker, essentially we hauled our partners in to show them a blank page. I am wondering what is the Minister going to do to get this potential train wreck back on track. Mahsi.
Question 510-16(5): NWT Greenhouse Gas Strategy
Oral Questions

The Speaker Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Bromley. The honourable Minister of Environment and Natural Resources, Mr. Miltenberger.
Question 510-16(5): NWT Greenhouse Gas Strategy
Oral Questions

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Truly, the Member’s glass is half empty as it pertains to this issue. If I could just very
briefly touch on the fact that, in the life of this government, we put $60 million into alternative energy, into biomass, hydro, solar strategy, Water Strategy, wind, geothermal. I think we have done very good work in recycling. We have redone building standards. We have projects all over the place on the ground in our own buildings in communities. We have worked with all of the communities to look at energy plans. We as well committed to redoing the Greenhouse Gas Strategy. That work is underway, clearly not up to the Member’s standards.
I am listening to the Member’s comments, advice and feedback. We are making note of those and we are going to be adjusting as we move forward here to make sure that is an effective process. We mustn’t lose sight of the fact that this Assembly has done an enormous amount of work in this area of greenhouse gases, our carbon footprint, energy efficiencies and sensitivity to the environment. Thank you.
Question 510-16(5): NWT Greenhouse Gas Strategy
Oral Questions

Bob Bromley Weledeh
Mr. Speaker, and enjoyed benefits along the way, I am the first to admit, and I don’t want to detract from the work that has been done and the dollars that have been saved and so on. Put that in perspective, of course, is an important part of the equation. We have had very modest goals and we have achieved those very modest goals, I think. We are waiting for the evidence to accrue there, but I am pretty sure that is happening.
I would like to compare cases, Mr. Speaker. We have a gas pipeline of questionable economics four years down the road, maybe, and we seem to know every economic fact down to shoe sizes. We have a Greenhouse Gas Strategy that was out of date when it was printed, no omission reduction targets, no costing and no plan. We have all the time in the world for increasing greenhouse gas production and none for avoiding the climate change they cause. The Minister understands the consequences of change in climate. Can he assure us that the Greenhouse Gas Reduction Strategy will balance this equation? Thank you.
Question 510-16(5): NWT Greenhouse Gas Strategy
Oral Questions

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Mr. Speaker, the final Greenhouse Gas Strategy would be a product of this government, this Assembly. The Member sits on the Climate Change Committee that has had a hand in this to a good degree. We have to make sure that the products that comes out of this Legislature that are put forward into this House reflect the consensus that we can reach on going forward on a territorial-wide Greenhouse Gas Strategy. Thank you.
Question 510-16(5): NWT Greenhouse Gas Strategy
Oral Questions

Bob Bromley Weledeh
Mr. Speaker, the Minister mentions the Climate Change Committee. I think we would agree that, in fact, we have been pushing for the work to be done so that this consultation can be meaningful. That includes listing the tools and
determining doing the analysis to determine what those tools can achieve us in terms of greenhouse gas reduction. Consultations are not showing if that work has been done. Can the Minister assure us that work being done will be shortly presented to people for some real consultation to finally begin? Thank you.
Question 510-16(5): NWT Greenhouse Gas Strategy
Oral Questions

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Mr. Speaker, we have embarked on a process that will result in a Greenhouse Gas Strategy. We are listening to the feedback we get in this House and other venues and making note of that. We want to have the best, most comprehensive process possible so that we end up with a product that will have some meat, some substance that will address specifically recommendations going forward, targets we want to achieve and hit and how we are going to do that. Thank you.
Question 510-16(5): NWT Greenhouse Gas Strategy
Oral Questions
Question 510-16(5): NWT Greenhouse Gas Strategy
Oral Questions

Bob Bromley Weledeh
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Minister’s status report indicates that the goals, objectives, principles and targets of the strategy need to be revised and clearly articulated. That work had not even started, Mr. Speaker. Will the Minister promise to devote the limited time remaining in this mandate and sufficient staff resources to assemble the full set of facts, tools, analysis and consultation to at least set up our successors with strong recommendations in our transition plan? Mahsi.
Question 510-16(5): NWT Greenhouse Gas Strategy
Oral Questions

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Mr. Speaker, I can assure the Member that every staff member in Environment and Natural Resources is working flat out on a whole host of issues, including this Greenhouse Gas Strategy, and the folks that are working on this strategy are fully applying themselves with their shoulder to the wheel, their nose to the grindstone and unremitting efforts to bring this process to a successful conclusion. I will commit that we will have a Greenhouse Gas Strategy at the end of the day that will hopefully meet the very high standard that the Member has set for himself and all the rest of us mere mortals. Thank you.
Question 510-16(5): NWT Greenhouse Gas Strategy
Oral Questions

The Speaker Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. The honourable Member for Kam Lake, Mr. Ramsay.
Question 511-16(5): Norman Wells Block Land Transfer
Oral Questions
February 21st, 2011

David Ramsay Kam Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have some questions today for the Minister of MACA getting back to my Member’s statement where I talked about the 36,000 acre land deal in Norman Wells. I had questions a few weeks back where the Minister suggested that it was a sale, and in media reports the suggestion was a sale but just yesterday in the House during Committee of the
Whole, I believe the deputy minister referred to it as a lease, in response to my colleague Ms. Bisaro’s questions. The Minister, in a statement to Ms. Bisaro, called it a purchase and then called it a lease. I would like to just get it out there. Is the 36,000 acre deal a lease or a sale to the Norman Wells Land Corporation? Thank you.
Question 511-16(5): Norman Wells Block Land Transfer
Oral Questions

The Speaker Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. The honourable Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs, Mr. Robert McLeod.
Question 511-16(5): Norman Wells Block Land Transfer
Oral Questions

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. They had originally intended to purchase the property but it worked out in the end where it was decided that it was a lease, so it is a lease. Thank you.
Question 511-16(5): Norman Wells Block Land Transfer
Oral Questions

David Ramsay Kam Lake
That leads to a little bit more confusion, because when I asked the Minister a few weeks back what the selling price was, it was $1.6 million. Would the Minister be able to divulge the financial obligations of the Norman Wells Land Corporation as it relates to that lease? Is it $1.6 million for a 30-year lease, or what are the financial parameters surrounding that lease? Thank you.
Question 511-16(5): Norman Wells Block Land Transfer
Oral Questions

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes
The intent is to lease the property for the next three years; to purchase it after three years. Thank you,
Question 511-16(5): Norman Wells Block Land Transfer
Oral Questions

David Ramsay Kam Lake
Again, there are a lot of questions that I could ask surrounding this. The whole process has left a lot to be desired when it comes to consultation and transparency and if you look to the legislation and the policy, it’s really short on guidance to the department on what it can and can’t do in terms of consultation. I’d like to ask the Minister why MACA has refused to let the Town of Norman Wells have a look at that lease. Thank you.
Question 511-16(5): Norman Wells Block Land Transfer
Oral Questions

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes
Thank you. Obviously there are a lot of questions we could ask about any issue debated in this house. This was one issue where all the proper processes were followed in accordance with disposal of Commissioner’s land. I’m not sure what the Member is talking about, the Town wanting to see the lease. I’d have to follow up on that and see if there’s been a request for the Town to view the lease. I know the lease was just signed recently. So I’ll follow up with that and see if there was ever a request to have a look at the lease. Thank you.
Question 511-16(5): Norman Wells Block Land Transfer
Oral Questions
Question 511-16(5): Norman Wells Block Land Transfer
Oral Questions

David Ramsay Kam Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think it’s very important as we move toward a post-devolution setup here in the Northwest Territories, that we have rules and policies in place so that all communities know exactly what the rules of engagement are when it comes to disposal of Commissioner’s land in and around communities.
I’d like to ask the Minister if he could entertain looking at special consultation requirements and principles that would apply to transfers of community block transfer lands where the transfer is to be made to a third party and not a community government. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Question 511-16(5): Norman Wells Block Land Transfer
Oral Questions

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes
Thank you. We have followed all the proper policies, all the proper processes in this case and we continue to do so. People may not agree with them, they might not like the decision that was made at the end and they continue to question the decision, but as far as following all the proper processes, that has been done. We followed them, the Norman Wells Land Corporation has followed them. There still is a lot of land that is available in the community, Commissioner’s land that’s available to the Town within their municipal boundaries and the Norman Wells Land Corporation want to acquire this land for a future economic base for their membership. How can we deny them that? We’re continuing to work with them to see that they have due processes that are followed and I’ll stand here, Mr. Speaker, and continue to defend the fact that all processes were followed. Thank you.
Question 511-16(5): Norman Wells Block Land Transfer
Oral Questions
Question 512-16(5): Victims Services Outreach Program In Nunakput
Oral Questions

Jackie Jacobson Nunakput
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today my Member’s statement was on support for victims services in my riding in the Inuvik region. Mr. Speaker, what’s happening with the federal funding with the support services in the Nunakput region and what’s being done about it? For the Premier, thank you, Mr. Speaker.