This is page numbers 5701 - 5740 of the Hansard for the 16th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was health.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

My question really wasn’t about the radio smoking cessation Quitline. It was more to draw a parallel that this government has sought out in one manner or another whether the federal government came knocking or we went looking, as a government, looking for money to help sponsor that type of addiction treatment, which I think is good value for people. But by and large, the bridge I was trying to demonstrate in the sense of comparison is the government works to provide a phone line for people to talk, or I guess, talk out their problems about why they want a cigarette and perhaps someone on the other line talks to them and convinces them not to reach for that extra cigarette. What stops the government from investigating and proceeding with allowing, sort of, a follow-up line or a call line for people to speak to some of these service providers, whether they’re in the Lutselk'e region, the Beaufort-Delta region, or the Nats’ejee K’eh region, whatever the case may be? One that’s relevant to them and perhaps one that they’ve already been to. What’s stopping the government from setting up a follow-up line for people who have gone through these programs to be able to lean back onto for extra support when

working through the struggles? What stops the government from doing that? Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Well, nothing stops us from doing that other than the fact that there is no real, I don’t think… I mean, the phone lines we’ve tried, like the Health Line, per cost basis it wasn’t the most effective service because our people still want to have face-to-face counselling. People don’t even like calling the RCMP on a phone line. Our people would like to have care providers face to face.

My point is we have those services available in communities for people to go to for their treatment options or aftercare or anything like that. I don’t think there’s anything stopping us. It’s one option, but it would be a whole new initiative. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

What’s stopping the department from making it part of the programming dollars we supply to various service agencies that provide addictions treatment and support for obligating them as part of the service agreement to provide an aftercare phone line for people to talk about, perhaps, the strains of fighting their addictions? If it’s good enough for Poundmaker outside of Edmonton to have a follow-up line where they actually do follow-up calls and whatnot to ensure the clientele have gone through their program so that they know they’re still supported outside once they’ve finished the program and while they continue to struggle with the addiction until they gain control, why wouldn’t it be a considerable effort that we’d pursue as a consideration of our service level agreements? Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Ms. Meade.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Meade

I think we need to clarify between a 1-800 quit line, call line, addiction line that are available, you know, the children’s line in Canada, for example, and the follow-up lines that treatment programs give to their clients, which often also happens in our own programs already. People who are also in addictions refer to some of the other groups like AA, NA and multiple groups like that, which also provide access through sponsors or call lines. I think the issue of setting up a 1-800 territorial-wide line is more complex and certainly we were able to do the Quitline because of federal funding.

The issue of being able to have our resources available to people for aftercare and when they need to talk, that’s a different issue. I think we do need to continue to encourage and support that through all our providers and to link with the other organizations like AA and NA. They are a highly successful organization for people that that program fits. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. What would stop the Department of Health from making this a requirement of the service level agreement

we do sign with these agencies to set up a phone number where people, not just a phone number, but also requiring the counsellors to do follow-up phone calls with people who have worked through a treatment process? What would stop the department from doing that? If you made it part of your agreement, perhaps it wouldn’t cost significantly anymore for asking them to do some follow-up. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Minister Lee.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We couldn’t do that to authorities. We couldn’t ask them to do something unless we could provide the funding. To have a 24-hour phone line for every authority, going by the H1N1 flu line, those are very, very expensive program options. We have to make a decision. It’s a duplication of service. Yet nothing stops us from requiring the authorities as long as we are willing to provide the funding. A 24-hour phone line will require two to three staff. That’s, right away, $300,000, and that’s people with knowledge about addictions. If we were to do that to all six authorities, right there it’s at least a couple million dollars. I don’t have a couple million dollars sitting around. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Mr. Chairman. Perhaps the more efficient way of doing it is making it a part of our service level agreements we’ve cast in...(inaudible)...some type of compromised negotiation in having the agencies that we actually negotiate directly with. In other words, the Department of Health directly negotiates and draws up service level agreements with certain groups. Why don’t we have them have these groups phone people as part of the Aftercare Program on a contiguous basis of some manner to make sure people are on track with their programming? Would it not serve some interest in everyone’s efforts, be it service agency or the government, in trying to find a way to stop them from coming back for further treatment in the future by a little proactive care? You just made the case of not doing a 1-800 number that’s not staffed 24 hours a day. I find that reasonable, but you could demand that we require a higher level of service. That could be done today if your department was willing to commit to it. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

We have, I believe, 62 positions dealing with mental health and addictions already. There is underground support for that work. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Glen Abernethy

Thank you, Minister Lee. My clock shows that it’s 6:00 p.m., so in recognition of the clock, I’ll now rise and report progress. Minister Lee, if I could get you to please thank your witnesses. Sergeant-at-Arms, if I could please get you to escort the witnesses, that would be fantastic.

Report of Committee of the Whole
Report of Committee of the Whole

February 8th, 2011

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Can I have the report of Committee of the Whole, please, Mr. Abernethy.

Report of Committee of the Whole
Report of Committee of the Whole

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Your committee has been considering Tabled Document 133-16(5), Northwest Territories Main Estimates, 2011-2012, and would like to report progress. Mr. Speaker, I move that the report of Committee of the Whole be concurred with. Mahsi.

Report of Committee of the Whole
Report of Committee of the Whole

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy. A motion is on the floor. Do we have a seconder? The honourable Member for Kam Lake, Mr. Ramsay.

---Carried

Item 23, third reading of bills. Madam Clerk, orders of the day.

Orders of the Day
Orders of the Day

Principal Clerk Of Committees (Ms. Knowlan)

Orders of the day for Thursday, February 10, 2011, at 1:30 p.m.:

1. Prayer

2. Ministers’

Statements

3. Members’

Statements

4. Reports of Standing and Special Committees

5. Returns to Oral Questions

6. Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

7. Acknowledgements

8. Oral

Questions

9. Written

Questions

10. Returns to Written Questions

11. Replies to Opening Address

12. Replies to Budget Address

13. Petitions

14. Reports of Committees on the Review of Bills

15. Tabling of Documents

16. Notices of Motion

17. Notices of Motion for First Reading of Bills

18. Motions

- Motion 31-16(5), Setting of Sitting Hours by Speaker

- Motion 32-16(5), Extended Adjournment of the House to February 14, 2011

- Motion 33-16(5), Supporting Veterinary

Education

19. First Reading of Bills

20. Second Reading of Bills

21. Consideration in Committee of the Whole of

Bills and Other Matters

- Tabled Document 4-16(5), Executive

Summary of the Report of the Joint Review Panel for the Mackenzie Gas Project

- Tabled Document 30-16(5), 2010 Review of Members’ Compensation and Benefits

- Tabled Document 38-16(5), Supplementary Health Benefits - What We Heard

- Tabled Document 62-16(5), Northern

Voices, Northern Waters: NWT Water Stewardship Strategy

- Tabled Document 75-16(5), Response to the Joint Review Panel for the Mackenzie Gas Project on the Federal and Territorial Governments’ Interim Response to “Foundation for a Sustainable Northern Future”

- Tabled Document 103-16(5), GNWT

Contracts over $5,000 Report, Year Ending March 31, 2010

- Tabled Document 133-16(5), Northwest

Territories Main Estimates, 2011-2012

- Tabled Document 135-16(5), GNWT

Response to CR 3-16(5): Report on the Review of the Child and Family Services Act

- Bill 4, An Act to Amend the Social

Assistance Act

- Bill 14, An Act to Amend the Conflict of Interest Act

- Bill 17, An Act to Amend the Income Tax Act

- Bill 20, An Act to Amend the Evidence Act

- Minister’s Statement 65-16(5), Devolution Agreement-in-Principle, Impact on Land Claims and Protection of Aboriginal Rights

- Minister’s Statement 88-16(5), Sessional Statement

22. Report of Committee of the Whole

23. Third Reading of Bills

24. Orders of the Day

Orders of the Day
Orders of the Day

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Madam Clerk. Accordingly, this House stands adjourned until Thursday, February 10, 2011, at 1:30 p.m.

---ADJOURNMENT

The House adjourned at 6:14 p.m.