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Question 61-16(6): Proposed Amendments To The Mackenzie Valley Resource Management Act
Oral Questions

David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Again I’ll try to get back to my question. Hopefully I can get an answer. I’d like to ask the Minister if there was a list of amendments being proposed to the Government of the Northwest Territories. My understanding is there is a working group that was established between the Government of the Northwest Territories and the federal government. I’d like to know what those items are on that list of amendments that they’d like to be made, and can we see that since the Government of the Northwest Territories is part of that working group.

Question 61-16(6): Proposed Amendments To The Mackenzie Valley Resource Management Act
Oral Questions

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

I want to restate, as well, my answer. This is a federal government INAC process. It’s their work. For the most part, they’ve treated the territorial governments and the other groups as stakeholders. The only thing that has now changed is the fact that we’ve signed an agreement-in-principle that indicates that within the next couple of years we’re going to be taking over, as Northerners, jurisdiction and authority over land, water, and resource development and that we don’t want any major surprises. We have our position clear on the website. I can commit to the Member that we can pull together a package of the work that’s been done, the correspondence that’s been shared back and forth, but we have to be very clear that this is not our process. We’ve laid out very clearly our position and the federal government has not fully engaged us on what they intend to do.

Question 61-16(6): Proposed Amendments To The Mackenzie Valley Resource Management Act
Oral Questions

David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

There was a letter submitted May 9th to the Premier of the Northwest Territories that

recommended some 40 suggestions on the amendment process and things that need to be considered in light of the land claim agreements, the Tlicho land claim, and the whole element of independency of regulatory boards from the political arms of the Government of the Northwest Territories or the federal government. I’d like to know the government’s positions on those amendment areas and have we responded to the letter from Alternatives North, who was working with the Gwich’in Tribal Council, Tlicho Government, and the Aboriginal governments, to recommend these suggestions prior to tomorrow’s deadline.

Question 61-16(6): Proposed Amendments To The Mackenzie Valley Resource Management Act
Oral Questions

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

The Government of the Northwest Territories has a position that is clear. We support the current structures. We have recommended against any changes. We are of the opinion that we are better served by the structure that is here, properly funded with proper policy clarity and adequate funding to represent our interests. The biggest point being we don’t want any major upheaval since we are now in the process of taking over those authorities. If there are changes that need to be made, then Northerners will make those changes collectively after we take over those responsibilities. It’s not appropriate at this point to have the federal government still insisting that they’re going to reshape our world, because in Ottawa they think that there are problems here, when we haven’t really been fully engaged.

Question 61-16(6): Proposed Amendments To The Mackenzie Valley Resource Management Act
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Final supplementary, Mr. Krutko.

Question 61-16(6): Proposed Amendments To The Mackenzie Valley Resource Management Act
Oral Questions

David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to ask the Minister if he’s willing to share the information that his department has, especially the list of items that were recommended for amendments to the Mackenzie Valley Resources Act. Also to share that with Members of this House and the Standing Committee on Economic Development so that we can also have input and get a better understanding of what’s been suggested and what is being suggested for amendments.

Question 61-16(6): Proposed Amendments To The Mackenzie Valley Resource Management Act
Oral Questions

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

I believe in my first question I already made that commitment.

Question 61-16(6): Proposed Amendments To The Mackenzie Valley Resource Management Act
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. The honourable Member for Great Slave, Mr. Abernethy.

Question 62-16(6): Independent Review Of Leishman Incident At Stanton Territorial Hospital
Oral Questions

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yesterday I asked the Minister of Health and Social Services about the Minister’s response to the motion in the House passed earlier this year dealing with the review of the Leishman incident at Stanton Territorial Hospital. The Minister has responded by establishing an external review conducted by Dr. Douglas Perry from Alberta, which is, in my opinion, a good first step. However, I notice that this review will be conducted under the Evidence Act. Specifically, statements made by the hospital staff will have protection of the Evidence Act and will not be made public, nor will they be shared with the mother; who, by the way, e-mailed me this morning indicating frustration that this will not be more of a public review. Given the importance of learning from this incident, can the

Minister advise me as to why he chose not to have a more public review?

Question 62-16(6): Independent Review Of Leishman Incident At Stanton Territorial Hospital
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy. The honourable Minister responsible for Health and Social Services, Mr. Miltenberger.

Question 62-16(6): Independent Review Of Leishman Incident At Stanton Territorial Hospital
Oral Questions

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The intent was to provide the information requested. There was a motion passed; a need to have a better understanding of what took place during the particular incident. The use of the Evidence Act is a way to allow people to come forward to be able to disclose with some certainty that they can speak frankly. That’s why that process was chosen. We want to do this expeditiously. We want to do it. This initiative has been dragged on for some considerable time. We have a very qualified individual to do it and the intent is to do it in a timely way to make sure that all the information was there. We’re not intending to re-open. We’re looking at what has happened, what has been done, what has been pulled together so far, and review to see if in fact there are issues of concern.

Question 62-16(6): Independent Review Of Leishman Incident At Stanton Territorial Hospital
Oral Questions

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

I’d like to thank the Minister for his response. When I reviewed the unedited Hansard from yesterday, the Minister said, “I’ve already committed to share the results of this review with the committee. We’ll look at what those recommendations are, what they say and, as well, we’ll be able to review what he proposes as a response.” Does this mean that the Minister will share more than just the recommendations with committee and the mother, and that he will also share information upon which those recommendations are based, and if not, why?

Question 62-16(6): Independent Review Of Leishman Incident At Stanton Territorial Hospital
Oral Questions

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

I indicated that I would share with the committee the report and the recommendations and will do that on a confidential basis.

Question 62-16(6): Independent Review Of Leishman Incident At Stanton Territorial Hospital
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Mr. Abernethy.

Question 62-16(6): Independent Review Of Leishman Incident At Stanton Territorial Hospital
Oral Questions

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

I’m good, thank you.

Question 62-16(6): Independent Review Of Leishman Incident At Stanton Territorial Hospital
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre, Mr. Hawkins.

Question 63-16(6): Need For Rehabilitation Centre For Substance Abuse In Yellowknife
Oral Questions

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Sadly, as highlighted earlier today, our community has lost another youth and it’s attributed to drug use. The thing is, I continue, as many other Members here continue, to cite the issue of we need a detox centre here in Yellowknife, and if not here in Yellowknife, then somewhere in the Northwest Territories. The Minister doesn’t have to take my word for it, of course. There’s always Justice Vertes or the YK Chamber, the NWT coroner or perhaps

even Stanton committee’s position on the need for these types of facilities.

My question directly to the Minister of Health and Social Services is: what is his department doing to establish a very specific style of treatment, which is a detox centre, targeted to attack and help beat the drug addictions that are associated with things like crystal meth, such as prescription abuse, as well as alcohol abuse? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 63-16(6): Need For Rehabilitation Centre For Substance Abuse In Yellowknife
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. The honourable Minister responsible for Health and Social Services, Mr. Miltenberger.

Question 63-16(6): Need For Rehabilitation Centre For Substance Abuse In Yellowknife
Oral Questions

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This area has seen a considerable evolution over the last five or six years or so. There was initially a report done, called the State of Emergency, that decried the state of alcohol and drug services in the Northwest Territories, and there was tens of millions of dollars, and dozens of positions added, and significant restructuring done to improve the level of service. There was a subsequent follow-up report a number of years later called Staying the Course, which said that the path chosen was the right one, that they had to make some adjustments, but we have to keep going down the path that would lead to those final long-term improvements.

Since that time, things have continued to evolve. There have been other issues that have come to light, other concerns been brought, and now there is a subsequent review that’s currently being considered and a response being worked on that’s going to lay out what we think, as a government, as a department, as a way forward to deal with some of the broader issues that relate to mental health and addictions issues, including the Member’s concern about further intuitional development and bricks and mortar facilities. Thank you.

Question 63-16(6): Need For Rehabilitation Centre For Substance Abuse In Yellowknife
Oral Questions

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Mr. Speaker, today I’m asking not just for bricks and mortar, because I think ultimately that is the long-term solution, but today I really need to hear the Minister commit to when will a plan be put forward to address this. I appreciate the review is looking back as to what was done, but I’m sorry to say that we have a number of experts, I would definitely define them as, who have all said the same thing, which is we need these types of resources available today rather than sitting and waiting.

I’m so passionate about this issue. It doesn’t just have to be here in Yellowknife. We could establish a detox centre anywhere in the Northwest Territories, because as far as I’m concerned, if we’re treating people, it doesn’t matter where it is, as long as we are.

Mr. Speaker, the last point I want to emphasize on this issue is the state at play at this very moment is if you have a child who has a crack problem, you

have to be sent to one of the regular local programs and fail at that program before the Department of Health and Social Services will refer you to the appropriate targeted program in the South. Mr. Speaker, I believe we can establish this here anywhere in the North. I’m just happy to hear if we could get it done. Mr. Speaker, that’s my question to the Minister of Health and Social Services, is when can we bring a plan to the table that really focuses in on real results. Thank you.

Question 63-16(6): Need For Rehabilitation Centre For Substance Abuse In Yellowknife
Oral Questions

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Let me just set a quick context for the response. Yesterday I gave a fiscal update in this House that pointed to the extreme constraints that we, like just about every other government, are under in terms of managing our dollars and meeting our needs, and our ability to have new programs added on are minimal to none in the life of this government. We will have a plan in the life of this government that lays out what we recommend are steps to be taken in the coming years. With the addictions and mental health services, we will have a renewed strategic plan for Health and Social Services by the August Assembly that will lay out as a system how we intend to move forward, including that area, and that plan will be there. Everything we do, including things like this, midwifery services, the 101 other very good issues that we should be putting money to will be dependent on the resources we have available. Thank you.

Question 63-16(6): Need For Rehabilitation Centre For Substance Abuse In Yellowknife
Oral Questions

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Mr. Speaker, undeniably, I’ll say that you could step out of this building and get away from the throes of what the impression of what the world really wants in this building to actually getting on the street to what the real citizens will tell you, and undoubtedly, I will tell you that they will say the Northwest Territories needs a detox centre.

Mr. Speaker, it’s true that some types of demons in the drug and alcohol areas that they may require specific programming, and perhaps on-the-land programs are more appropriate for those types of problems, but, Mr. Speaker, jails aren’t always the solution, and I think that’s the issue Justice Vertes was trying to say. As he highlighted clearly, he said if it was the solution, America would be the safest place in the world, which it isn’t, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, will these results, as highlighted by the Minister in his last answers, will they come with a commitment from this government to support them if it comes forward and says build a detox centre? Because we need to focus in on real results that deliver true results which are a priority of the citizens of the Northwest Territories. Thank you.

Question 63-16(6): Need For Rehabilitation Centre For Substance Abuse In Yellowknife
Oral Questions

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

If we walk outside the confines of this building we will also find that we need thousands of housing units, that we need babies to be born healthy, that we need parents that are actively engaged in the upbringing

of their children, that we need employment. There are lots of issues.

This particular issue will be brought forward. There will be options laid out there and recommendations. It will be the job of the incoming 17th Assembly in

the budget process for 2012-13 to decide how they want to move forward, what their priorities are, and what we can afford. Thank you.

Question 63-16(6): Need For Rehabilitation Centre For Substance Abuse In Yellowknife
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Short supplementary, Mr. Hawkins.

Question 63-16(6): Need For Rehabilitation Centre For Substance Abuse In Yellowknife
Oral Questions

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I don’t have to explain to the Minister how paralyzing drug and alcohol problems are to people of the North, but the reality here is this government could make that commitment today and not hope that the new Assembly will take care of what rightly is the responsibility of the legislators of today, which is to deal with this particular problem.

The last thing I’ll say, Mr. Speaker, is forcing people to Stanton is not the appropriate place. Forcing people to jails is not the appropriate place. That’s why I’m here today asking the Minister if he will commit. If this report says that we should build a detox centre, as all the other experts have highlighted earlier said we need, will this government get behind that, stand behind that and make the appropriate investment that speaks to that need? Thank you.