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Question 7-17(2): Proposed Changes To The Old Age Security System
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Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

If there are changes, we will definitely come back to the standing committee and talk about potential impacts and how we can deal with that in due time. Mahsi.

Question 7-17(2): Proposed Changes To The Old Age Security System
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. The honourable Member for Range Lake, Mr. Dolynny.

Question 8-17(2): NWT Drinking Water Quality Testing Results
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Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I just enjoyed a nice glass of water before me here and I know many Members did the same thing. The reason why I felt comfortable drinking this water is I know it was tested. I knew there was some decorum in the water. I knew there was some scientific value in the water that I drank. Unfortunately, upon review of MACA’s 2010 GNWT Report on Drinking Water, which I made reference to today in my Member’s statement, my spidey sense in terms of my chemistry background, a lot of warning bells went off. I was very much alarmed to know that we weren’t, as a government, enforcing

the very set of guidelines and standards for our testing.

As I mentioned in my Member’s statement, many communities, upon forensic review, haven’t been tested, some of them since 2009 and some of them haven’t been tested since 2011. That said, I have a question for the MACA Minister in terms of what happened to these missing test results. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 8-17(2): NWT Drinking Water Quality Testing Results
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Dolynny. The Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs, Mr. McLeod.

Question 8-17(2): NWT Drinking Water Quality Testing Results
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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’m not sure if there are missing test results. If there are no test results there, these may not have been done to begin with and that’s something we will work with the communities on.

There are four departments involved in this and we do try to work with the communities very closely to ensure that they do the testing. Under the terms of the water licence that they apply for, they do have to send a yearly sample to the federal government for the lab testing. If they fail to do that, then the environmental health officer would issue a boil water advisory; not because the water is unsafe to drink, because he doesn’t know what’s in it, but because it hasn’t been tested. So we continue to try to work with the communities to ensure they have quality drinking water in the communities and we work with the other departments to ensure this happens. Thank you.

Question 8-17(2): NWT Drinking Water Quality Testing Results
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Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

I appreciate the Minister’s response. However, I guess the question is: Can we really expect these testing results to occur? I’m not hearing a timeline so that the residents of the Northwest Territories feel assured that their water is at least being tested for chemicals.

Question 8-17(2): NWT Drinking Water Quality Testing Results
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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

As I said in my response before, communities are required to send annual testing samples to the federal lab. I’m assuming that most communities are doing this. There are probably a few where that needs to be picked up on a bit.

Like I said, we are working with the communities. It’s a lot of responsibility that the communities have now to ensure that there is safe drinking water. For the most part all communities are doing a pretty good job. I mean, we have to obviously monitor the situation, make sure the proper testing is done so residents feel that their water is of good quality. We’ll continue to follow up on that and work with communities. Thank you.

Question 8-17(2): NWT Drinking Water Quality Testing Results
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Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

I thank the Minister for his response. Earlier today we heard from the Premier about his working towards a transboundary water management agreement for the Mackenzie River Basin, an initiative I know that everyone in this room would agree as something important. That

said, without the proper chemical testing, what is the government using as a baseline for moving forward?

Question 8-17(2): NWT Drinking Water Quality Testing Results
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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

The communities do treat the water that comes through, for those with water treatment plants. They do treat the water. Travelling to all communities in the Northwest Territories and having drank the water in pretty well every community, I know the water quality is pretty good, because if it’s not good, then obviously we would have more pressing issues to deal with. So the testing is there, for the most part. There may have been some slippage in some parts, but we are working with the communities to try to rectify that. We have training programs for water plant operators that MACA runs through the School of Community Government and we’ve had good uptake in that. So we are working.

The quality of water in the Northwest Territories is obviously a concern, but as far as we’re concerned, the water quality in the communities is pretty good and is being monitored. Thank you.

Question 8-17(2): NWT Drinking Water Quality Testing Results
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Final, short supplementary, Mr. Dolynny.

Question 8-17(2): NWT Drinking Water Quality Testing Results
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Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Again, thank you to the Minister. As I said earlier, there are four territorial departments involved with the quality of testing of our water: Health and Social Services, ENR, MACA and Public Works. So the question to the Minister is: Who out of these four will be reporting back to this House in terms of the quality of water testing that is missing in this report? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 8-17(2): NWT Drinking Water Quality Testing Results
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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

I will follow up with the other departments and see what we can come up with and see who’s responsible at the end of the day to report the findings to this House. I can assure the Member again that we are working with the communities to improve the quality of water and make sure all the water is treated regularly and sampled regularly. If it’s not sampled, we do try to work with the communities to ensure they get their samples out for testing for chemicals to the federal lab. Again, I will commit to the Member that I will follow up with my colleagues and we’ll find out who would be reporting results back to this House. Thank you.

Question 8-17(2): NWT Drinking Water Quality Testing Results
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Frame Lake, Ms. Bisaro.

Question 9-17(2): Northlands Trailer Park Water And Sewer Infrastructure Replacement
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Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions today are addressed to the Minister of Finance. I mentioned in my statement that I truly believe that there is something that this government can do to assist the residents of my riding who

happen to live in Northlands Mobile Home Park. I also mentioned in my statement that I feel that there’s a different mindset required by this government with regard to this particular situation; maybe not for this situation, but also for other issues which have come before us.

I would like to ask the Minister whether or not he will commit to working with his Cabinet colleagues to re-examine the Northlands issue to take a can-do attitude and to try to look for an out-of-the box solution to this particular problem.

Question 9-17(2): Northlands Trailer Park Water And Sewer Infrastructure Replacement
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. The Minister of Finance, Mr. Miltenberger.

Question 9-17(2): Northlands Trailer Park Water And Sewer Infrastructure Replacement
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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We have a fairly good idea of what we can do and what we should do and I’ve laid that out to the Member, we’ve laid it out to Mayor Van Tighem and the City of Yellowknife.

Fundamentally, this is a municipal issue. The condo corporation has to get itself organized. It’s a private corporation. I know there are issues there. The mayor has indicated that they can borrow money as cheaply as us, and as I’ve indicated, as well, from the start, if there are things we’ve overlooked or totally missed, of course we will be prepared to consider those. But this file has been live for the last 17 years or so, and it’s been examined very thoroughly and the fundamental issues stay the same. The condo corporation cannot get itself organized enough to come to the table with the municipality of Yellowknife to sort this out. That’s a fundamental first step. Thank you.

Question 9-17(2): Northlands Trailer Park Water And Sewer Infrastructure Replacement
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Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

The Minister well knows that because this issue has been ongoing for a long time doesn’t necessarily mean that we shouldn’t continue to be involved. It’s an extremely difficult situation. It has many variables and I believe that this – and I know the Minister doesn’t agree with me – government needs to take some moral responsibility for the Condominium Act and for assisting residents. We assist many residents in our territory and I don’t know why the residents in my riding should be any different than residents in any other riding.

The Minister says that they know what they can do but I don’t think he advised me what they think they will do. I’d like to ask the Minister, on behalf of my constituents, can you elaborate for me just what you and your Cabinet colleagues are willing to do to assist Northlands residents with their problem?

Question 9-17(2): Northlands Trailer Park Water And Sewer Infrastructure Replacement
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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

As we indicated in our discussions with the mayor last week – a very good discussion – this is fundamentally a municipal issue. There are things that have to be worked out with this condominium corporation. It’s not the position of the government to get involved in those type of circumstances. There are things that have to be done, there are

funds that have to be raised, there are debenture votes that have to be taken, there are changes to the condo corporation that have to take place first before anything else can happen. The debate about what can and what should the residents of Northlands pay in terms of a debenture vote are the people in the city of Yellowknife. If this was put to a debenture, are they prepared to help take that burden? Those are where the decisions have to be made and that’s where the responsibility starts.

Question 9-17(2): Northlands Trailer Park Water And Sewer Infrastructure Replacement
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Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

I find it just simply reinforces my belief that we have not a can-do but a can’t-do attitude across the floor from me. I feel that it’s important that this government indicate that there is some support for these residents. I totally agree that the residents have to get themselves together, the condo corp has to get themselves together and they need to take action. I consistently tell them that, and other Members and other people within the city tell them the same thing. However, we can’t wait for the first stone to fall before we actually take action. I think this has to happen together and I don’t see that from the other side of the floor.

The Minister has given a number of reasons why the answer to the city’s letter was no, and the borrowing limit was one that is a particularly difficult hurdle that this government has to deal with. I feel that it is the most valid of any of the reasons that the Minister gave. I’d like to know from the Minister that should the Government of Canada give us a decision that allows us a greater room in our borrowing limit, which is presumably to come somewhere around the end of March, would the Minister commit to revisit the city’s request for either a no-interest or a low-interest loan – it doesn’t have to be a no-interest – so that it will assist the residents in Northlands financially.

Question 9-17(2): Northlands Trailer Park Water And Sewer Infrastructure Replacement
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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

The City of Yellowknife has indicated to us that they don’t need to borrow money from us, that they can get money at as cheap a rate as we can. They acknowledge that fundamentally this is a responsibility that falls within the purview of the City of Yellowknife. Should we get an increase to our borrowing limit, as the Premier has indicated, we have to maintain our fiscal discipline for the next couple years to get ourselves clear so that by year three and four we can invest money in key strategic infrastructure initiatives. If the City of Yellowknife at some point takes some further steps in terms of the Northlands issue and they come back to us, of course we will look at whatever their request may be at that time.

Question 9-17(2): Northlands Trailer Park Water And Sewer Infrastructure Replacement
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Final supplementary, Ms. Bisaro.

Question 9-17(2): Northlands Trailer Park Water And Sewer Infrastructure Replacement
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Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to thank the Minister for at least telling me that if the city comes back with something, they’ll consider it. I’d like to know from the Minister, then, as well, that if there will be other suggestions that will come

forward, perhaps from other Members, perhaps from myself, will the Minister be willing to consider those in the same vein.

Question 9-17(2): Northlands Trailer Park Water And Sewer Infrastructure Replacement
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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

We’re open to all suggestions that haven’t been considered in the last 17 years or so, and we will, of course, give them all the consideration they deserve.

Question 9-17(2): Northlands Trailer Park Water And Sewer Infrastructure Replacement
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. The honourable Member for Sahtu, Mr. Yakeleya.

Question 10-17(2): Addictions Treatment Programs In Sahtu
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Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The municipality of Norman Wells held a liquor restriction vote and it was passed some time ago. On February 1st the Town of Norman Wells, the

liquor store there will be open to restriction, meaning no restriction, meaning that anybody that comes into the liquor store can purchase liquor.

The effects of liquor and alcohol in our communities is devastating, especially to a small community. I want to ask the Minister of Health and Social Services to help us deal with the impact of alcohol and drugs and other issues that are going to be a problem, potentially hurtful for our people. The Minister talked about on-the-land treatment programs and I want to ask the Minister if he could elaborate a little more for the people in my region as how can the community, the Sahtu region benefit from this statement for having drug and alcohol treatment programs on the land.