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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Elkin

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. To date we have completed the technical evaluation, working with DPW, on the facility and the operational clinical program. The money in 2013-14 is to complete the schematic design. We are currently in what is called block planning. Over the next eight months, we will be completing a Class C schematic design. We will

have a full planning study completed next spring to take forward for consideration in next fall’s capital plan.

Consideration of Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Elkin. Mr. Bromley.

Consideration of Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So we completed the technical and operational. We are now in block planning. I am not familiar with that term, but I am assuming it has something to do with the layout of where particular aspects of medical care are delivered that are related to each other and so on in the hospital. Was it a Class B design? I missed the letter on the class of design where we are at. I understand we are looking for a Class B estimate. Maybe they are different before we go ahead.

The last part that I am a little bit unsure of is the intent for the following year to actually start renovations. Is that what I heard? That would be 2014-15, I believe. Mahsi.

Consideration of Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. Minister Beaulieu.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Mr. Chair, we will proceed after a Class C estimate. We would go through the capital planning process back to the House. Block planning is where we would look at occupancy planning. It includes activity such as furniture and equipment details, word process development, program engagement for schematic planning and business planning. Thank you.

Consideration of Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. I believe there was a third part of that question regarding next year’s plans. Mr. Beaulieu.

Consideration of Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will just have the deputy minister provide detail on next year’s planning.

Consideration of Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Ms. DeLancey.

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Debbie Delancey

Mr. Chair, as the Minister indicated, the block planning will be completed in the spring of 2013. That will result in a Class C estimate, which will give us the information that we need to seek funding through the capital planning process. We would then be in a position to come back in the capital plan for 2014-15 with funding to begin the project. When funding is approved, then the renovation project should be able to begin.

Consideration of Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Ms. DeLancey. Mr. Bromley.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It sounds like, obviously, it is a very modest amount of work that we are planning for 2013-14 here, a modest budget compared to the need we have. I just want to try and nail down whether or not we are actually going to be starting renovations in 2014-15. The Class C design typically is a start towards seeking funding, but a Class D estimate is needed to achieve funding. How long does the Minister

think we will need to convert this Class C design estimate – achievable, I believe, in the spring of 2013 – into actual renovations? If I can just leave it at that and get a response. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. Minister Beaulieu.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. During ’13-14, we will complete the planning to a Class C estimate. The money that’s in the capital plan here for ’13-14 should take us to the stage where we’re in here requesting money. The first bit of capital work to start on ’14-15. That’s the plan. That’s where we’re headed to.

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Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

That’s good. I think I’m finally seeing some light here. Does the Minister have any idea what the first bit of capital construction, what size of project we’re talking about here for ’14-15?

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Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

We don’t know the overall size of the capital project but part of the planning was a process development of the plan. We’re anticipating that the capital planning will be done over a fairly extended period of time.

As I indicated in the last couple of days, we’re not anticipating that all of the work will happen over a very short period, because the Stanton Hospital will have to remain operational throughout the construction stage. We are expecting this to be a longer period and as the areas get completed, we will move to another area and utilize the hospital as it renews. With that, I would hate to guess what we would be doing until all the planning has occurred, but I would suspect that it would be over a longer period of time rather than a shorter period.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

I don’t want to take up too much time with this, but it sounds like a briefing would be useful. I’m not a member of Social Programs, or I’m an alternate member, but I wonder if the Minister would be prepared to do a briefing of where we’re at with Stanton so we could spend a little time on it. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

The department has no problem providing a briefing on the plan for Stanton.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Minister Beaulieu. Final supplementary, Mr. Bromley.

Consideration of Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

That’s it. I appreciate the Minister’s offer. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. Moving on with questioning, I have the Member for Hay River North, Mr. Bouchard.

Consideration of Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert Bouchard

Robert Bouchard Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I had a question for the Minister about the upgrade being done in Inuvik, the patient…(inaudible)… management system in Inuvik. Can the Minister maybe just elaborate on that system that’s being upgraded?

Consideration of Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Bouchard. Minister Beaulieu.

Consideration of Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I’ll have the assistant deputy minister provide a detailed response on that.

Consideration of Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Minister Beaulieu. Mr. Elkin.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Elkin

Thank you. The patient elopement system in the long-term care unit in Inuvik is sometimes referred by a trade name, WanderGuard, which protects patients with Alzheimer’s who may wander outside the facility. It has a warning system that prevents them from leaving the units.