This is page numbers 1459 - 1480 of the Hansard for the 17th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was project.

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Question 263-17(3): Enterprise And Kakisa Community Water Services
Oral Questions

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

The only possible barrier that I can see to these communities not operating their own water treatment plants is because they just don’t have the desire to. All the other tools are in place to enable some of these communities to work with our department to identify potential sites, help them with the planning. The only barrier right now is their lack of willingness, and that can be reconciled.

Question 263-17(3): Enterprise And Kakisa Community Water Services
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Weledeh, Mr. Bromley.

Question 264-17(3): Realignment Of Highway No. 4
Oral Questions

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions today are for the Minister of Transportation on highways. I’ve noted that people driving to the Yellowknife Airport can now see the work on realignment of Highway No. 4 around the Giant Mine site is underway. I understand that the work will include not only the creation of a safer and better road that avoids the Giant Mine site, but some improvement to the highway onward to the Yellowknife River Bridge might be included.

On behalf of the public and my constituents, can the Minister provide us with some information on the extent and schedule for the work?

Question 264-17(3): Realignment Of Highway No. 4
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. The honourable Minister of Transportation, Mr. David Ramsay.

Question 264-17(3): Realignment Of Highway No. 4
Oral Questions

Kam Lake

David Ramsay

David Ramsay Minister of Transportation

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, construction has started on the realignment of Highway No. 4 past Giant Mine. The work is being performed by Det’on Cho Corporation. They are in partnership with a number of local companies they have brought in to partner with them on the realignment project. Det’on Cho/Stantec, Det’on Cho/Nahanni Construction, Aboriginal Engineering, CJ Construction, Tli Cho Landtran, and also NWT Construction. They have a number of partners.

The project came within budget. The negotiations were concluded in early October. Construction is anticipated to carry on until close to Christmas time, at which time there will be a shutdown for a few months and then in the spring it will pick up again. We hope to have construction of the seven-kilometre stretch complete by November 2013.

Question 264-17(3): Realignment Of Highway No. 4
Oral Questions

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

The Minister anticipated my second question, which was about partnerships. Just on the extent of the project, I know that it will end up sort of close to the Bristol on the road to the airport, but where is it starting, and can the Minister tell us anything about the routing?

Question 264-17(3): Realignment Of Highway No. 4
Oral Questions

Kam Lake

David Ramsay

David Ramsay Minister of Transportation

I’ll do my best. I have maps that I can provide to Members that better indicates the route. It will be down just from the current entrance to Fred Henne Park. That’s where the highway will start. It will bypass the Giant Mine site and the remediation work, both aboveground and underground, that is taking place there and come out close to the Yellowknife River. So it’s about seven kilometres. It’s going to be an important realignment for a number of reasons. I think it also opens up possibilities not only for the city of Yellowknife, but also with Det’on Cho and maybe some advancement on development.

Question 264-17(3): Realignment Of Highway No. 4
Oral Questions

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thanks again to the Minister. Perhaps that information is on some website that people could have a look at. There is also the question of financing this work. My understanding is that how this project is paid for is that redirection of the funds that GNWT has contributed to meet its obligations for remediation of the Giant Mine site. I wonder if the Minister could outline how those funds are being assigned. I know it’s a bit controversial. Some people think the money that we contributed to Giant Mine should go more directly into remediation, but I’d say at least a good portion of this project should be considered a legitimate response to the need to avoid the underground arsenic.

Question 264-17(3): Realignment Of Highway No. 4
Oral Questions

Kam Lake

David Ramsay

David Ramsay Minister of Transportation

The money is coming from the GNWT Giant Mine Liability Fund, which was established in 2005. There was $17 million in that budget for the realignment and it’s expected that the project costs will come in under that figure.

Question 264-17(3): Realignment Of Highway No. 4
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Final, short supplementary, Mr. Bromley.

Question 264-17(3): Realignment Of Highway No. 4
Oral Questions

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My last question, just moving a couple clicks down the road there, any update on the Detah road?

Question 264-17(3): Realignment Of Highway No. 4
Oral Questions

Kam Lake

David Ramsay

David Ramsay Minister of Transportation

In response to the Member during the capital plan review, we haven’t abandoned the Detah road. We do need to identify more funding to complete the work that is required on the Detah road. We’re hopeful that, again, in 2014, that there’s a new infrastructure plan with the federal government that will enable us to conclude the work that’s required on the Detah road.

Question 264-17(3): Realignment Of Highway No. 4
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. The Member for Hay River South, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Question 265-17(3): Inuvik To Tuktoyaktuk Highway Project
Oral Questions

Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just in follow-up, I thought of another question. I gave Mr. Ramsay quite a platform there to make his speech about his much anticipated road from Inuvik to Tuk, when I said what makes this borrowing money worthy, this particular project. A lot of the

reasoning he gave could be applied to, literally, you could take and you could transpose that whole argument to Wrigley to Norman Wells. You could say the same thing. We’ve got so much activity going on in the Sahtu in the oil and gas. I mean, that’s part of the Mackenzie Highway too. It just happens to be the more southerly portion, not the more northerly portion.

I’d like to ask the Minister, are we just dancing to the tune of the federal government when it comes to the priority that’s being placed on this particular project? Again I ask, how are we going to gauge the support of Northerners, because it still will be a lot of capital, even if it’s borrowed?

Question 265-17(3): Inuvik To Tuktoyaktuk Highway Project
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. The Minister of Transportation, Mr. Ramsay.

Question 265-17(3): Inuvik To Tuktoyaktuk Highway Project
Oral Questions

David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. No. It is in our best interest, as well, to see the completion of the Mackenzie Valley Highway, and it is going to start with the section between Inuvik and Tuktoyaktuk. Certainly, there are other demands around the territory when it comes to transportation infrastructure that we’ll be hearing loud and clear from… I know I’ve heard from the Member for the Sahtu in his conversations with the leadership in the Sahtu about the advancement of the Mackenzie Valley Highway through the Sahtu, and south from Norman Wells or north from Wrigley or however you want to call it. That certainly will be coming into much more prominence as we move forward and development continues to take place in the Sahtu.

Question 265-17(3): Inuvik To Tuktoyaktuk Highway Project
Oral Questions

Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

That’s quite an assertion on the part of our Transportation Minister to say it will be that road and we will spend money on that road. It will be. It kind of makes me wonder, you know, where we are in terms of our level of commitment on this. When we started out and it was $150 million from the feds and $50 million from our government, okay, I could see it. But we haven’t even determined what the cost of the road is yet, so how can the Minister say this will be it?

What if the road comes in at $400 million? How can the Minister make such an assertion? How does he know with such certainty?

Question 265-17(3): Inuvik To Tuktoyaktuk Highway Project
Oral Questions

David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

I’m always optimistic, I guess. That would be my first response.

In response to the Member, we are going to conclude the environmental assessment. That report will come in in January. We’re also going to be getting three separate cost estimates on the project. We need to determine the funding arrangement with the federal government. There are a number of decision points here that have to be made, and they’ll be made with Members of the House, with committee, with Regular Members as we move the project forward. That’s our anticipation, is that we’re going to get that cost estimate. We’ll get the funding arrangement. We’ll

know exactly what we’re going to get ourselves into and then the decision will be made.

Question 265-17(3): Inuvik To Tuktoyaktuk Highway Project
Oral Questions

Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

I like that answer a little bit better, because that was my understanding when we’ve been approving these funds for the geotechnical and costing and all these things we’ve been doing. We understood that as we were approving these dollars, that $2 million, around $2 million a hit, that’s what we thought we were doing. We thought this was kind of exploratory and that if it didn’t go ahead at this time, that was still valuable information that could be used at some time in the future.

The Minister is telling us that, in fact, there are many hurdles and many questions to be answered prior to this government irrevocably committing to this project.

Question 265-17(3): Inuvik To Tuktoyaktuk Highway Project
Oral Questions

David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

On a project this size, it is inevitable that, up front, you have to do that type of geotechnical analysis, and the work, the engineering has to get done to get you the cost estimates that you require. That is what we see. That is what we’ve been pursuing.

Like any other project, it requires an environmental assessment. That’s a requirement of the federal government before we can enter into a funding arrangement with the federal government. These are necessary steps that the Government of the Northwest Territories is following and we will be making a decision, based on those cost estimates, during the February/March sitting of the House.

Question 265-17(3): Inuvik To Tuktoyaktuk Highway Project
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. Item 8, written questions. Item 9, returns to written questions. Item 10, replies to opening address. Item 11, petitions. Item 12, reports of standing and special committees. Item 13, reports of committees on the review of bills. Mr. Moses.

Bill 5: Legal Aid Act Bill 7: An Act To Amend The Judicature Act
Reports of Committees on the Review of Bills

Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker I wish to report to the Assembly that the Standing Committee on Social Programs has reviewed Bill 5, Legal Aid Act, and Bill 7, An Act to Amend the Judicature Act, and wish to report that Bills 5 and 7 are now ready for consideration in Committee of the Whole as amended and reprinted.

Bill 5: Legal Aid Act Bill 7: An Act To Amend The Judicature Act
Reports of Committees on the Review of Bills

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Moses. Item 14, tabling of documents.

Tabled Document 87-17(3): Workers’ Safety And Compensation Commission 2013 Employer Assessment Rates
Tabling of Documents

Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will be tabling a standard WSCC 2013 employer assessment rate notice that was mailed out to all businesses in the NWT.

Tabled Document 87-17(3): Workers’ Safety And Compensation Commission 2013 Employer Assessment Rates
Tabling of Documents

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Dolynny. Item 15, notices of motion. Ms. Bisaro.