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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The situation with the nurse practitioners that are being trained has been very difficult. The nurse practitioners have worked well in Hay River, as an example, where there’s a nurse practitioner there that they do a little more than the registered nurses. They’re able to do diagnosis and prescriptions. They’re valuable. We have a nurse practitioner in Fort Resolution and in Hay River. We have seven nurse practitioner positions in Yellowknife but a lot of what’s been happening is the nurse practitioners that are advancing from registered nurse to nurse practitioner through the program are ending up in Yellowknife.

We recognize the value of the nurse practitioner, especially in places where we are having difficulties getting doctors in the regions. We think there’s a valuable use for nurse practitioners at the regional level. Right now we have the doctors’ positions placed in the regional levels, and as I’ve mentioned in the House several times, it’s been almost

impossible to fill doctors’ positions in the communities so we’re using a large amount of locums. The nurse practitioner position has been able to take some of that work that’s normally done by doctors, and the work that the nurse practitioner can do – they can’t do all the work of a doctor – but the work that they can do has been very valuable.

As a department we are proceeding with this whole strategy on physicians. Inside this strategy on physicians that I spoke to in the House where we’re trying to bring doctors as close to the people as possible, the first priority of course means that ideally, if we’re talking about Sahtu, we would have two full-time doctors working and living in Norman Wells. As it stands we have four locums, two very long-term locums that are doing the work in there, and we cannot seem to be able to fill the actual positions in there.

How we view the nurse practitioner position is that they’re very valuable to take a lot of that work, and so we see as we’re developing a strategy for physicians to be located within the NWT we want to use nurse practitioners and try to attract nurse practitioners into the regional centres that can travel into the communities from the regional centres if at all possible. But at this time the majority of our nurse practitioners are located here in Yellowknife.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. We’re going to go back to Mr. Miltenberger.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I apologize to Mr. Yakeleya. He asked a question about energy and all the sunsets. In fact, as the Member pointed out, the end of March is the end of all that $60 million we’ve devoted to alternative energy over the last four years. One of the things we are as a government working on to be ready for business plans and for the main budget is to see, given our very tight financial circumstances, what we can do to look at the various initiatives that were underway. It’s the same with strategic initiatives. There are a number of initiatives that are sunsetting. We are looking at how do we manage to put money into these critical areas, given, as I indicated, some of the cost pressures we’re under. Some of the work that was done on strategic initiatives and in energy I believe everybody would concur needs to continue. Our challenge now is to be able to come forward through the business planning process with trying to identify funds, if available, and try to address some of those issues. That work is underway. It’s not concluded but we are gearing up to be able to have that discussion because those are two critical areas of concern and interest. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Your final question, Mr. Yakeleya.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I want to thank the Ministers for a good response to my

questions. My final question would be for the devolution, what funds have you received from Canada to date on this issue here, and a comment to the Minister on the forest suppression needs for funding up front. Mr. Chair…(inaudible)…and I will have to apologize for my ignorance on this. The Minister talked about the aircraft services. Are we entering into new contractual arrangements with them or do we need to have that discussion yet? These funds are advanced. I understand why they need to be there in time for the forest fire season. My understanding is clear on that. I guess these are the types of things that we need to have some further discussions yet. I’m not going to stay too long on that issue here.

I do appreciate the Minister’s response on the nurse practitioners. They are a valuable piece of human resources that we need to have in the Sahtu communities, or the Beaufort-Delta, or Deh Cho, or Tlicho, or wherever we need to have that type of service of these nurse practitioners there. I’ll leave it at that there, and hopefully the Minister can help with these couple of other concerns I had.

I understand that some of the operations within NGOs or the government, they have entered into multi-year funding and contracts. That’s why some of them have to be honoured. We heard for many years that multi-year funding is the way to go with the NGOs, so that’s something that needs to be honoured also. I do think that should happen. The Minister does know about my concerns on these issues here, so thank you for allowing some flexibility on his part to explain it to me.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Final comments, Mr. Miltenberger.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just quickly, in regard to the ENR fire budgets, as has been pointed out by Ms. Bisaro a number of times, we know from history that the fire budget will be almost fully expended by July regardless of what happens, and we’ll be coming back for supplementary appropriation. That’s a different discussion. But we do have some long-term contracts, fixed-wing and rotary, with Buffalo Airways, with Discovery, with some of the other aviation outfits. Hence the request.

With regard to the devolution question and the federal contribution, I’ll ask Mr. Kalgutkar if he can provide the Member with some information. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Minister Miltenberger. Mr. Kalgutkar.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kalgutkar

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The federal government has committed to provide us with $26.5 million; $4 million of that is for the period between the AIP and the final agreement, and another $22.5 million from the final agreement to effective date. In terms of the first tranche of

money, we have received in cash around $1.4 million and we do anticipate receiving the rest before the end of the fiscal year. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Kalgutkar. Does the committee agree we have completed general comments?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you very much. Mr. Menicoche.

Committee Motion 4-17(2): Resume Consideration Of Item No. 11, Department Of Transportation, Interim Appropriation 2012-13, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

February 9th, 2012

Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. I move that this committee resume consideration of item 11, Department of Transportation, contained in Tabled Document 1-17(2), Interim Appropriation 2012-2013, Summary of Interim Appropriations found on page 3. Thank you.

Committee Motion 4-17(2): Resume Consideration Of Item No. 11, Department Of Transportation, Interim Appropriation 2012-13, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. A motion is on the floor. It is being distributed now. The motion is in order.

Committee Motion 4-17(2): Resume Consideration Of Item No. 11, Department Of Transportation, Interim Appropriation 2012-13, Carried
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An Hon. Member

Question.

Committee Motion 4-17(2): Resume Consideration Of Item No. 11, Department Of Transportation, Interim Appropriation 2012-13, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Question has been called.

---Carried

We are going to go back to item 11, Transportation, operational expenditures, interim appropriation, appropriation authority required, $29.848 million. Mr. Menicoche.

Committee Motion 4-17(2): Resume Consideration Of Item No. 11, Department Of Transportation, Interim Appropriation 2012-13, Carried
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Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. I just wanted to thank my colleagues for their support as well as the Minister of Transportation for addressing my concerns with regard to improvements to the Liard Highway No. 7.

I am satisfied with the written commitment that the operation and maintenance concerns will be addressed and some of the carry-over capital funding to be expended with that. I’ve got no further questions or comments on this line item. Mahsi cho.

Committee Motion 4-17(2): Resume Consideration Of Item No. 11, Department Of Transportation, Interim Appropriation 2012-13, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. Any comments from Minister Miltenberger?

Committee Motion 4-17(2): Resume Consideration Of Item No. 11, Department Of Transportation, Interim Appropriation 2012-13, Carried
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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

No, Mr. Chair. Sorry. Minister Ramsay I think would like to have some closing comments on this item. Thank you.

Committee Motion 4-17(2): Resume Consideration Of Item No. 11, Department Of Transportation, Interim Appropriation 2012-13, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Minister Miltenberger. Minister Ramsay.

Committee Motion 4-17(2): Resume Consideration Of Item No. 11, Department Of Transportation, Interim Appropriation 2012-13, Carried
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David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you, colleagues. I just wanted to say that we appreciate MLA Menicoche’s determination in defense of Highway No. 7 and trying to address the

concerns that are there for his constituents and for the riding of Nahendeh. We will do whatever we can as we move forward to identify funding to get the much needed reconstruction done on Highway No. 7. Again, I appreciate his efforts. Thank you.

Committee Motion 4-17(2): Resume Consideration Of Item No. 11, Department Of Transportation, Interim Appropriation 2012-13, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Minister Ramsay. Item 11, Transportation, interim appropriation, 2012-2013, operational expenditures, appropriation authority required, $29.848 million.

Committee Motion 4-17(2): Resume Consideration Of Item No. 11, Department Of Transportation, Interim Appropriation 2012-13, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Committee Motion 4-17(2): Resume Consideration Of Item No. 11, Department Of Transportation, Interim Appropriation 2012-13, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Since this concludes the proceedings, thank you committee. We’d like to thank the witnesses here today, and if I can get the Sergeant-at-Arms to please escort our witnesses out. Does this conclude our consideration of Tabled Document 1-17(2), Interim Appropriations 2012-2013?

Committee Motion 4-17(2): Resume Consideration Of Item No. 11, Department Of Transportation, Interim Appropriation 2012-13, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.