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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Wendy Bisaro

Thank you, Mr. Nadli. Mr. Bromley.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Madam Chair. My question is on the hunting and fishing licences, the decrease in revenue there of $50,000. That’s obviously a lot of licences. I understand that I would expect licence fees to have dropped when we stopped caribou hunting, but I’m wondering what this estimated decrease in revenue is caused by. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Wendy Bisaro

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. Mr. Campbell.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Campbell

Thank you, Madam Chair. The decrease there reflects to some degree, I guess, the lack of access to caribou tags. The primary

reason is the decrease in the sale of fishing licences. I think not just in our jurisdiction but other jurisdictions are experiencing the same. The major area in the decrease is the fishing licences.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Wendy Bisaro

Thank you, Mr. Campbell. Mr. Bromley. Any further questions on page 13-9, Environment and Natural Resources, department summary, information item, revenue summary?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Wendy Bisaro

Page 13-10, Environment and Natural Resources, department summary, information item, active position summary.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Wendy Bisaro

Page 13-13, Environment and Natural Resources, activity summary, corporate management, operations expenditure summary, $11.171 million. Mr. Bromley.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Madam Chair. My constituency includes a First Nation that has not yet resolved their land claim issues and their land claim. I’m wondering why we are discontinuing the Interim Resource Management Assistance Program agreement, about $305,000 the last couple of fiscal years. I know that the Yellowknives Dene certainly valued that program and I’m wondering if I can get an update on what the thinking is there. Perhaps that’s a federal program that was sunsetted or something, but maybe I can get an update on that.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Wendy Bisaro

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. Mr. Miltenberger.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Madam Chair. That money flows a little bit later in the fiscal year and will be brought forward as it has been in a supp.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thanks to the Minister for that. That’s good news. I’m wondering, I’m not clear, the corporate management policy and strategic planning division, is that the division that’s responsible for the Land Use and Sustainability Framework, developing that?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

The Land Use and Sustainability Framework is an initiative that is being driven and handled through the Executive.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Wendy Bisaro

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Thank you, Mr. Bromley. No further questions? Page 13-13, Environment and Natural Resources, activity summary, corporate management, operations expenditure summary, $11.171 million.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Wendy Bisaro

Page 13-14, Environment and Natural Resources, activity summary, corporate management, grants and

contributions, contributions, total contributions, $65,000.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Wendy Bisaro

Page 13-15, Environment and Natural Resources, activity summary, information item, corporate management, active positions.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Wendy Bisaro

Page 13-17, Environment and Natural Resources, activity summary, environment, operations expenditure summary, $5.936 million. Mr. Yakeleya.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Chair. The Climate Change Program, I want to look at the environmental protection section, to work to prevent and reduce impact on activity. I want to ask the Minister if he will be coming forward with some plans as to this program that’s responsible in the area of the Tulita district where there’s possibly some work that’s going to be happening over there in the next couple of years, maybe longer. What kind of plans is he going to support the people in the Sahtu and in the North here on recovery of air quality and contaminated sites and hazardous substances? How is the Minister working with the other departments and the oil and gas industry and the federal government to make sure that the least amount of damages are left on our lands once everything’s done and the show is done and everybody packs up and goes home?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Wendy Bisaro

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Mr. Miltenberger.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Madam Chair. On the exploration side we have the resources that have been laid out in the business plan. We also, as a government with ITI and ENR, have been doing a lot of work on the issue of unconventional hydraulic fracturing. There has been work done with committee. There’s going to be more work done. We’re doing a thorough review of that whole approach to accessing tight oil. That will inform the way forward. If we move from exploration into development, we will, of course, be planning for what type of development, that is. We’ll be looking at the resource requirements on that basis when we have a clear sense that there is in fact a move past exploration to development.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

We had a very good presentation this afternoon from the Pembina Institute. It actually brought up some pretty good points. I thought it was very objective and I thought that the points that they brought out gave me some ideas and maybe other Members too as to how do we, if they are going to do hydraulic fracking then we want to make sure that it’s done in a responsible and environmentally safe way that we can have the best of both worlds so to speak. That’s the type of information I got this afternoon from that

presentation. It made some really good points. We could have the hydraulic fracking, but we also need to be very cautious that we’re on Mother Nature’s land here. Our land. We want to protect it also. There could be a really fine balance.

I want to ask the Minister in that sense when we come forward with our ideas that we got from the presentation or the community, we want to ensure that our land and water and the animals that we depend on and live off and grew up on will be there after the activity has resided in the Tulita district or any other area in the Northwest Territories. Working with the National Energy Board or the oil companies on some of these hazardous wastes that are possibly going to be used in our area to take the oil out of our ground here. Has the Minister met with the Pembina Institute to look at their presentation on hydraulic fracking?