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Question 91-17(4): Policy Framework For GNWT- Sponsored Social Media Sites
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. No question there. Mr. Miltenberger.

Question 91-17(4): Policy Framework For GNWT- Sponsored Social Media Sites
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Thebacha

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Minister of Finance

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I appreciate the Member’s sage advice and I will keep that in mind as we move forward.

Question 91-17(4): Policy Framework For GNWT- Sponsored Social Media Sites
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. The honourable Member for Inuvik Boot Lake, Mr. Moses.

Question 92-17(4): Delivery Of Income Assistance Program In Inuvik
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Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions today are for the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment. I guess basically it’s in terms of planning and getting ready for a region when we go through an economic downturn. I just want to ask the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment if he has seen an increased cost in our Income Assistance Program and, if so, does he know the figure of how many dollars we’re putting in to the income assistance in the community of Inuvik. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 92-17(4): Delivery Of Income Assistance Program In Inuvik
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Moses. Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Lafferty.

Question 92-17(4): Delivery Of Income Assistance Program In Inuvik
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Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. With the Income Assistance Program, we made some changes in 2007 to reflect the cost of living in the North and also the remoteness of the communities and, of course, the high costs. So we made those changes in 2007 and we have continued to monitor that since then until today. I have instructed my department to re-evaluate the program itself and continue monitoring it. If there are changes in the cost factor in, let’s say, the Beaufort-Delta, we need to take those into consideration. If we’re going to make changes, we have to come back to this House to make those changes. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

Question 92-17(4): Delivery Of Income Assistance Program In Inuvik
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Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Just along those lines, I’d like to ask the Minister if there has been an increase in the amount of applications and an increase in the amount of residents that are now collecting income assistance in the community of Inuvik, has there been an increase in the amount of dollars that are allocated to this particular program. I’m trying to get to a point here, because with the lack of jobs and the downturn in Inuvik right now, we’re going to see more families, we’re going to see more people, more residents who are becoming dependent on government and income assistance. I’ve seen it through my office. I’d like to ask the Minister if he has seen an increase in the applications and the number of people who are on income assistance and an increase in dollars. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 92-17(4): Delivery Of Income Assistance Program In Inuvik
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Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mr. Speaker, by all means I would like to see more people and a population increase in the Northwest Territories. Based on that, it does fluctuate. People leave, people come, depending on the opportunities. When there’s an increase in the caseloads for, let’s say, the Beaufort-Delta, then have a monetary mechanism. If it’s higher than what is expected or budgeted, then we have to come back to this House. We’ve done that in the past, so we’ll continue to work in that regard. We do have a budget for the Income Security Framework overall. Again in 2007 there was an increase. If there needs to be another increase, that’s an area that we need to look at.

I have instructed my department to look seriously where we’re at with income security overall. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

Question 92-17(4): Delivery Of Income Assistance Program In Inuvik
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Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Mr. Speaker, through my office I’ve had a lot of constituents come and express their concern about not being able to work or find contracts, and have to refer to looking at other social programs that can help them assist. I’m asking the Minister if he’s seen an increase in the amount for my community. If he has seen an increase, he kind of alluded to it in his last statement, but is there an action plan to address the higher costs of income dollars going into Inuvik specifically, so that more residents are actually having to, not by choice but having to, because of the economic downturn. Is there an action plan to address the high rates of applications? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 92-17(4): Delivery Of Income Assistance Program In Inuvik
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Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mr. Speaker, there is additional or higher caseloads, then those areas are continually monitored through my department. It’s not only Inuvik or the Beaufort-Delta, it’s all 33 communities that we service.

As I stated, there is a fluctuation in the population in the communities and the caseload does go down as well. Of course, we’d like to see the caseload go down. There are opportunities and activities happening in other regions, whether it be the Sahtu

region, and in the Beaufort-Delta there’s the road that’s been discussed. So there are going to be opportunities there.

At the same time, we are working closely with the regional representatives. The number has increased a bit in the various areas, but I can share that information with the Members for their information. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

Question 92-17(4): Delivery Of Income Assistance Program In Inuvik
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Mahsi, Mr. Lafferty. Final, short supplementary, Mr. Moses.

Question 92-17(4): Delivery Of Income Assistance Program In Inuvik
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Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I guess my final question – the Minister did mention that it’s high throughout the Northwest Territories – what is the Minister doing to address it? I know they have the pro choices program, but what else is he doing to address this? He’s also the Minister of training and education. What is he doing to address and reduce the number of applications to get our people back into the workforce and off income assistance? What is the Minister doing to address these high rates of incidences of applications and dollars that have been going into this program? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 92-17(4): Delivery Of Income Assistance Program In Inuvik
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Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mr. Speaker, I’d like to thank the Member for that particular question. Those are the key areas that we are focusing on. We want to have a trained workforce, whether it be from the Beaufort-Delta, Sahtu or other regions. If there are opportunities and activities that are happening, we need to be ready for them.

We are working closely with industries. We have the productive choices part of the program through income security. I’ve told my department to seriously look at the productive choices, how we can improve and have the programming we have now, so it’s sort of like incentives where individuals can explore training and explore other opportunities out there. So those are areas that I will be talking to Members, as well, and standing committee. I want to bring that forward to the standing committee if there are going to be changes and options that we need to work with. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

Question 92-17(4): Delivery Of Income Assistance Program In Inuvik
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. Member for Weledeh, Mr. Bromley.

Question 93-17(4): Good Management Practices For Hydraulic Fracturing (Fracking)
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Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions today are for the Minister of Environment and Natural Resources. We are in the earliest stages of learning about fracking. The policy development needs are huge and the time frame urgent. We know the drive for fracking is underway in the Sahtu. Funds and time are needed to determine the basis on which to make good management decisions.

Recognizing that the resource will not disappear, will the Minister of ENR commit to ensuring that we dedicate both the funds and the time required to develop a policy on fracking that will protect both our people and our land? Mahsi.

Question 93-17(4): Good Management Practices For Hydraulic Fracturing (Fracking)
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. Minister of Environment and Natural Resources, Mr. Miltenberger.

Question 93-17(4): Good Management Practices For Hydraulic Fracturing (Fracking)
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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Member is correct; this is an important issue. It’s a practice that we need to look at carefully. We’ve already invested considerable time and effort. We intend to come forward by this coming spring, early fall at the latest, with some guidelines built on best practices. We’ve had some very interesting meetings with the National Energy Board, as well, who’s going to be working in conjunction with us, especially at post-devolution, about the way to manage our way through this.

The Member raises a lot of issues that we are working to address and we will be sharing, of course, and involving committee in all the work that we do. Thank you.

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Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thanks for the comments from the Minister. It’s good to know that we’re on this.

Regulation of the exploration and production process is another critical matter. I mentioned the particular threat of failure of drill casings and contamination of massive amounts of water. We need a review of other jurisdictions’ regimes and evaluation of their suitability for our needs, then action to develop and put in place our own regs. Perhaps that’s part of what Mr. Minister was referring to.

Upon the release of the government response to our EDI report, will the Minister move quickly to contract and manage a review of regulatory options toward development of appropriate law for the Sahtu situation? Mahsi.

Question 93-17(4): Good Management Practices For Hydraulic Fracturing (Fracking)
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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

We are committed to working with committee. We are going to share the work, we are going to come up with best practices, we are going to do the regulatory review from across not only the country but we’re going to look around the work to see how it’s being dealt with in other jurisdictions that haven’t had moratoriums but are actually engaged in managing this process as they look at resource development. We will come forward and we’ll map out the next steps as we do that. Thank you.

Question 93-17(4): Good Management Practices For Hydraulic Fracturing (Fracking)
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Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, thanks again to the Minister. Some jurisdictions have banned fracking. That isn’t something they do lightly, so we need to understand the serious concerns that led to this.

As I mentioned, our so-called EDI fracking tour didn’t include a visit to even one fracking site. As part of this information gathering, will the ENR

Minister work with the Industry Minister to ensure the promised southern tour of regional leaders includes a visit to a no-fracking jurisdiction and to meet with the Aboriginal leadership with extensive fracking experience in northeastern BC? Thank you.

Question 93-17(4): Good Management Practices For Hydraulic Fracturing (Fracking)
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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, I will commit to work with the Minister of ITI. I can appreciate the Member’s concern about meeting with the Aboriginal governments and going to an actual fracking site. I would think we could probably gather the information about those jurisdictions that have decided to go ahead with fracking, by looking at what is available and having those conversations. But we will do a full review of all those particular positions as it pertains to fracking. Thank you.

Question 93-17(4): Good Management Practices For Hydraulic Fracturing (Fracking)
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Final, short supplementary, Mr. Bromley.

Question 93-17(4): Good Management Practices For Hydraulic Fracturing (Fracking)
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Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I know the Minister is committed to water quality preservation, so he will understand how little we know about the state of our surface waters and the potential impacts of fracking contamination. We can’t permit fracking without knowing how it will eternally affect our waters.

Will the Minister commit to commissioning the research necessary to understand the threats and prepare for the need to act fast with supplementary budget requests if required? Mahsi.

Question 93-17(4): Good Management Practices For Hydraulic Fracturing (Fracking)
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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

We all have a common concern not only about not only surface water but groundwater baseline information and wildlife baseline information. We have funds put aside in the budget to put money on the table. We are working through the Environmental Studies Research Fund, as well, which is funded by industry. There’s going to be dollars available to work on the groundwater mapping, the surface water and the wildlife baseline information as well.

All the wells that are being drilled and have been drilled have to do well monitoring sites, water monitoring sites. That information is going to be collated and pulled together so we can build a map of this central Mackenzie, the Sahtu region, as it pertains to the status of the groundwater and surface water. So that work is being done. It is a critical piece, as the Member has indicated, and we are fully involved in getting that work done. Thank you.

Question 93-17(4): Good Management Practices For Hydraulic Fracturing (Fracking)
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta, Mr. Blake.