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NWT Electoral Boundaries Commission Interim Report
Members’ Statements

Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to join some of my colleagues in their suggestion that people get out and attend the public hearings of the Electoral Boundaries Commission, and have their say and have their input into how they think this Legislature should look in terms of representation from across the Northwest Territories.

I have served in this House for a few terms now. I have served in this House with 24 Members, I’ve served with 14 Members and I’ve served with 19 Members, and I think I have a bit of a perspective on some of the issues that actually are related to the number of MLAs that are in this House. I have heard people say, we don’t need more MLAs; it costs too much money.

I would like to just put out there that what you see MLAs doing in this Chamber is not all of the work of MLAs when it comes to our formal work here in Yellowknife. Much of it is done in standing committees. In standing committees, when you do not have a critical number of people, there’s just something that’s lost, there’s something that’s missing. Even in this Chamber, if a couple of our Members are not present on any given topic or any given day, we just notice that the energy and the exchange and the vibrancy of the group tends to diminish as the number grows smaller.

Constituencies change. When I was first elected, I represented all of Hay River, the corridor and Enterprise. Since then, my riding has got… Well, there was a court challenge, so that necessarily changed the way the numbers that would make up each constituency. Subsequent to that, my constituency has actually been reduced in size with every term. So it isn’t like there have not been changes. People talk about the traditional constituencies, but there have been a lot of changes over the years, and I will say that the recommendations of the Electoral Boundaries Commission ultimately will come back to this House, and it’s the experience of us around this table that we’ll have the final say in what will be the final product that will be produced. But I want to tell people this is a regular and periodic exercise that we’d have as we strike the Electoral Boundaries

Commission, that we look at these issues because the North is ever-changing, populations of different regions are changing, and we need to undertake this exercise in order to make sure we have the most appropriate representation in this House.

So I would encourage people to have their say, and then we will add to it our experience and our knowledge here and hopefully come up with a good product. Thank you.

NWT Electoral Boundaries Commission Interim Report
Members’ Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

I’d like to welcome Mrs. Melody McLeod, the wife of our honourable Premier Bob McLeod, because Bob’s not here. He’s off with the Prime Minister and I’d like to welcome you to the House. It’s always so good to see family members here. Mrs. Groenewegen.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d also like to welcome Melody McLeod because she is much more than Mrs. Premier, Mrs. McLeod has been involved in Metis politics, she’s very involved in the Catholic Church as a lay leader and has contributed much to the Northwest Territories in and of her own right. Thank you.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. Mr. Beaulieu.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to recognize my constituency assistant, Beverly Catholique.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. Mr. Ramsay.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I, too, would like to recognize Mrs. Melody McLeod, the Premier’s wife, in the gallery. It’s a proud day for the McLeod family and I’m glad to see her here today. I know she was swelling with pride there earlier today. So, great to see her here. Thank you.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. Mr. Hawkins.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a few people I’d like to recognize, but first I’d like to start with the Pages here today. Chad Martin is from Mildred Hall School and he’s a constituent of Yellowknife Centre; as well as Miguel Gordon, who is a Mildred Hall student; and although not a constituent of Yellowknife Centre, Muhammad Awan is a Mildred Hall student. So I’d like to say, in some way, in some form the Mildred Hall students all belong to Yellowknife Centre, who I get to see regularly and I’m very proud to go to that school quite often as a parent of two kids that go there.

The other person I’d like to recognize at this particular occasion is Melody McLeod. I’ve known

her a long time. I think she knows me better than I’d like to admit. So that said, I’d also like her to leave today knowing that Bob McLeod becomes more famous being her husband as opposed to the other way around. She’s truly a leader in many ways and I’m very thankful of knowing her as long as I have. Thank you very much.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Item 6, acknowledgements. It was such a big, heavy day of lifting; we had such a good day today I’m going to call a recess.

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Good afternoon, colleagues. Item 7, oral questions. Mr. Hawkins.

Question 221-17(4): Public Engagement Process For Devolution Agreement
Oral Questions

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In my Member’s statement today, I spoke, of course, very highly to the Devolution Agreement, and I certainly underscored my support for the Devolution Agreement that has been finalized today. As we work towards implementation, the only outstanding issue is a couple small ones, which are, of course, public appreciation for the finer details of the Devolution Agreement.

My question would be to the Premier and is: When will we have some type of public dialogue that boils down the finer details of what the Devolution Agreement actually means, and what type of process do we have to engage our citizens in understanding these types of details?

Question 221-17(4): Public Engagement Process For Devolution Agreement
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. The honourable Premier, Mr. McLeod.

Question 221-17(4): Public Engagement Process For Devolution Agreement
Oral Questions

Yellowknife South

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Premier

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We are just in the process of developing our draft communications strategy, and I think we are sharing it with committee. If it hasn’t reached committee yet, it will be there very soon, in the next day or so.

Question 221-17(4): Public Engagement Process For Devolution Agreement
Oral Questions

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

That’s certainly good news that it sounds like something’s coming. We have to be fair. I mean, it doesn’t just show up. Some work has to be done.

In the Premier’s very well-crafted comments when he was speaking here before the Prime Minister, he had made mention of a vote. I’d like to know, or ask the Premier, what type of vote is anticipated on this final Devolution Agreement and when can we expect to see this.

Question 221-17(4): Public Engagement Process For Devolution Agreement
Oral Questions

Yellowknife South

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Premier

If the Members wish, we would put it to a vote in the Legislative Assembly, and it would be a yes or no vote.

Question 221-17(4): Public Engagement Process For Devolution Agreement
Oral Questions

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

I think I’m a little surprised, more so by the words “if we would like to.” How do we get it clear on the record here? Because the way he said it today made it sound like it was coming to the Assembly and it was a foregone conclusion that we would have a public discussion on this and a final vote, of course.

That said, what type of direction does the Premier need to ensure that we actually have a final vote on this particular issue before this Assembly?

Question 221-17(4): Public Engagement Process For Devolution Agreement
Oral Questions

Yellowknife South

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Premier

We expect that it will take about 40 to 50 days to have our public engagement and communications done on devolution, and I expect that we can vote on it in the May-June session.

Question 221-17(4): Public Engagement Process For Devolution Agreement
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Final, short supplementary, Mr. Hawkins.

Question 221-17(4): Public Engagement Process For Devolution Agreement
Oral Questions

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just quickly, I know some Members may prefer something larger. Myself, I prefer a vote in this Assembly. I think the people elect us for a particular reason: to lead on these particular issues. As proof, as you noticed today, we had five out of the seven Aboriginal groups signing on, so it shows broader support for this initiative, by all means. I prefer a public vote in this Assembly, and maybe the Premier could speak to how he feels that that will get the message on and carry forward these initiatives. Because I think citizens want to know are their leaders leading, and how we’re leading on this very important file and make sure the execution of it is properly done.

Question 221-17(4): Public Engagement Process For Devolution Agreement
Oral Questions

Yellowknife South

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Premier

I agree with the Member.

Question 221-17(4): Public Engagement Process For Devolution Agreement
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The Member for Sahtu, Mr. Yakeleya.

Question 222-17(4): NWT Liquor Commission
Oral Questions

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In my Member’s statement I talked about the NWT Liquor Commission. The NWT Liquor Commission mission underlines the statement here to promote and develop a healthy and responsible drinking culture. That’s one of the missions.

I’m going to ask the Minister of Finance, responsible for the NWT Liquor Commission, in regard to the profits and the revenue that they make every year. Can the Minister consider offering a percentage, of 10 percent or so, to the Liquor Commission that would support their mission, something like they have with the Department of Health and Social Services smoking cessation program where the money goes directly to that program to help the young people to have that type of awareness in their use of alcohol?

Question 222-17(4): NWT Liquor Commission
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. The Minister of Finance, Mr. Miltenberger.