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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Chair. In light of the responsibility of taking on more authority and responsibility for public lands and resources through the Devolution Agreement, it has always been at point at reality that what drove, perhaps, people to work together is just the uncertainty of First Nations and other governments. Recently there has been a trend towards land claim negotiations involving tripartite structures involving both levels of governments, federal and territorial governments and First Nations governments. Born

out of those efforts, we have land claim regimes. One very distinctive feature is the model of collaboration of co-management.

With the responsibility now, of course, keeping in mind that the other territories that are very similar in structure to the NWT are the Yukon and Nunavut, I want to know whether, indeed, we’re going down a path of taking on almost provincial-like management systems in approaching our partners with First Nations organizations and governments and whether that’s going to be changed.

The question that I wanted to ask is if the Minister could reaffirm that the joint stewardship and partnership of working in co-management still exists. Mahsi.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Nadli. Committee, this information does not have any activity summary for monetary. This is now under the guise of the Lands department. However, with that, I will allow the Minister if he has any comments to Mr. Nadli’s question. Minister Miltenberger.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I can unreservedly, unequivocally commit that we are going to continue on the path of partnerships with the Aboriginal governments as we’ve demonstrated with all the bilateral agreements we’ve signed, the way we’ve done the Wildlife Act, the Devolution Agreement, the Intergovernmental Council. It is part of who we are and I would differ somewhat with the Member’s assertion or assumption that we have the same regimes as Nunavut and the Yukon. I think we have a similarly unique arrangement and structure here in the Northwest Territories that reflects the people that live here, but it is unique in what it has done and what it has accomplished and whatever we do, we’ll do it together as we go forward. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Mr. Nadli.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Nadli. With that undeniable response, activity summary, land and water, operations expenditure summary. Any questions? Mr. Bromley.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just want to be clear. What has been the change with the shift of this section to the new section on water resources in terms of our ability to actually regulate use of water? For example, with the fracking applications that we see, we’ve already seen the application for Conoco that’s fracking now and all of a sudden they’ve hardly gotten along on their first one and they’re already upping their requirements dramatically. Eventually much of that water will be stored in perpetuity out of the ecosystem. Does this department now have authority, or will it be

developing authority to actually regulate that? Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. Minister Miltenberger.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes, working with the boards, we will have authority to regulate the water.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Bromley.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

I’ll leave it at that, Mr. Chair. We’ve already talked about revenue from this, as well, and so on. So, I’ll leave it at that. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. Committee, you’re on 13-36, activity summary, land and water, operations expenditure summary. Any questions?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you. Page 13-37 again is an activity summary, land and water, grants and contributions. Any questions?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, committee. Committee, 13-38, information item, land and water, active positions. Again, any questions?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you. Page 13-39, information item, lease commitments – infrastructure. Any questions?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Seeing none, 13-40, information item, Environment Fund. Any questions? Mr. Bromley.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I’m just wondering, following up on earlier discussions, if we expect the electronics side of things to be paying for itself. Is there an opportunity to generate some revenue aligned with the costs of the program, if we’re that far along in our assessment? Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. For that we’ll go to Mr. Campbell.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Campbell

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Going forward, once we have completed the pilot project here and working again with our partners in Alberta, that is the expectation on electronics here, is to establish a program that would pay for itself. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Campbell. Mr. Bromley.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

That’s good news. I just want to follow up on one more thing that the Minister has heard about before and that’s our requirement for less than total return on deposits for milk containers. I know the Minister was interested or at

least somewhat open to giving a full return so that we’re not discouraging the use of milk as a beverage. Has that been done yet do we know? Thank you.