This is page numbers 4691 – 4742 of the Hansard for the 17th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was program.

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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It’s interesting; they’re abstaining on this motion,

maybe because they don’t have the numbers. It’s just to reference a point.

I worry, frankly, that the Minister has misunderstood the issue. He’s too quick to comment and point out and reference experts, experts none of us would deny. Frankly, I don’t care what the experts are saying about JK because that’s not the issue. It’s about the implementation. I believe the expert Shanker had said by age four it’s already too late anyway, so are we accomplishing the goals? Not one Member on this side of the House spoke against JK. Everybody here is in favour of the merits, the quality programming, the opportunities they create for people in small communities, the fact that we all believe in helping the child get the best start to their future. You don’t have to look any further to facts such as our graduation rates and ask ourselves could we do things better. This is exactly the thing we want to be part of.

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…a child growing up for the future. We want to be part of that future.

The government wants to make 14 grades out of 13 years of funding. Now, I didn’t know when this Minister started apprenticing under David Copperfield and made the Statue of Liberty disappear, but how is he going to make more programing happen with less money per child? It’s not necessarily meant to be an insult. The reality is it’s impossible. It’s an illusion.

MLA Moses had talked about the impacts of Children’s First Society in Inuvik. We’re three months away from the implementation of this program and the Minister says we still have to have discussions. The rollout is in three months. We should be having the end of discussions about this at this point. I don’t expect the Minister to know everything. I think that’s impossible and not fair, but we’re asking pillar-style questions. These are what hold the building up. Every one of our questions is about the cornerstone of its success. What about the funding? What about the training? What about the availability of space? Why are you taking money away? Every single one of these are very important questions. Perhaps the Minister knows things he hasn’t shared with us; I don’t know.

There is a net loss to large districts, and by the way, that’s not just Yellowknife. That’s also potentially Hay River, potentially Fort Smith, potentially Inuvik. We cannot allow this to happen. The other thing that starts a worry is what’s going to happen down the road. We just don’t know. The public is quite clear on this. I would hope that the government would understand that. We support funding students properly from the start everywhere they live. There is no surprise or shock to that. No one has said anything to the contrary.

Recently, the NWTTA president came to us and told us about the workload of teachers. Now the Minister of Education wants more out of them. I think they’ve already given their share and he wants more.

Pick a single community initiative. We’ll get behind this. Show us where you need support. We’ll be behind this. I keep saying it. I don’t know why the Minister isn’t listening. It’s not about the merits of junior kindergarten; it’s about the implementation plan.

The Minister will go on about his statistics. Yes, we’re not the worst. We’re just barely above the last one. He talks about the highest cost per student that they implement in our schools. We’re the most expensive jurisdiction. These things make sense. May I remind the whole Cabinet, when it’s their idea and their initiative, they always seem to find money. They always do.

This is the people’s initiative. This is not a Regular Member’s initiative. This is the people’s initiative and we are just here to support the voices of the people that have been coming in loud and clear. The bottom line is we want to help, not reduce. We want to support, not take away.

It has been loud and clear. There is no way to offset this by playing a shell game one school board against another, one community against another. I’m reminded, as I’m going to finish here, of a famous quote from somebody we all have heard of, Stephen Covey. He always says, begin with the end in mind. If our children are the most important, will the Minister of Education let us help him? We want to be part of that solution. Let us begin with the end in mind. Thank you.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. To the motion.

Some Hon. Members

Question.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Question has been called. The Member has asked for a recorded vote. All those in favour, please rise.

Clerk Of The House (Ms. Langlois)

Mr. Hawkins, Ms. Bisaro, Mr. Moses, Mr. Bromley, Mr. Blake, Mr. Dolynny, Mr. Bouchard, Mr. Nadli.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

All those opposed, please rise. All those abstaining, please rise.

Clerk Of The House (Ms. Langlois)

Mr. Beaulieu, Mr. Abernethy, Mr. McLeod – Yellowknife South, Mr. Lafferty, Mr. Ramsay, Mr. McLeod – Inuvik Twin Lakes.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Madam Clerk. In favour, eight; opposed, zero; abstentions, six. Motion is carried.

---Carried

Mr. Blake.

Frederick Blake Jr.

Frederick Blake Jr. Mackenzie Delta

Mr. Speaker, WHEREAS Section 103 of the Legislative Assembly and Executive Council Act provides for the approval of sole adjudicators by motion of this House;

AND WHEREAS it is desirable to have persons approved for appointment as sole adjudicators for conflict of interest matters under Section 103 of the Legislative Assembly and Executive Council Act;

NOW THEREFORE I MOVE, seconded by the honourable Member for Monfwi, that the following persons be approved by the Legislative Assembly as sole adjudicators:

Honourable Ronald L. Barclay;

Mr. Paul D.K. Fraser;

Mr. Ronald Perozzo;

Honourable J.E. (Ted) Richard;

Honourable Marguerite Trussler.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Blake. The motion is in order. To the motion.

Some Hon. Members

Question.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Question has been called. Motion is carried.

---Carried

Mr. Moses.

Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Mr. Speaker, I MOVE, seconded by the honourable Member for Great Slave, that, notwithstanding Rule 4, when this House adjourns on June 5, 2014, it shall be adjourned until Thursday, October 16, 2014;

AND FURTHER, that any time prior to October 16, 2014, if the Speaker is satisfied, after consultation with the Executive Council and Members of the Legislative Assembly, that the public interest requires that the House should meet at an earlier time during the adjournment, the Speaker may give notice and thereupon the House shall meet at the time stated in such notice and shall transact its business as it has been duly adjourned to that time.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Moses. The motion is in order. To the motion.

Some Hon. Members

Question.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Question has been called. Motion is carried.

---Carried

Item 18, first reading of bills. Mr. Abernethy.

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Yellowknife South, that Bill 31, Supplementary Appropriation Act (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2014-2015, be read for the first time. Thank you.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you Mr. Abernethy.

---Carried

Bill 31 has had first reading and is ready for second reading.

Mr. Abernethy.

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to proceed with first reading of Bill 32, An Act to Amend the Pharmacy Act.

---Unanimous consent granted

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Kam Lake, that Bill 32, An Act to Amend the Pharmacy Act, be read for the first time. Thank you.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy.

---Carried

Bill 32, An Act to Amend the Pharmacy Act has had first reading.

Item 19, second reading of bills. Mr. Abernethy.

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Tu Nedhe, that Bill 29, Human Tissue Donation Act, be read for the second time.

This bill sets out a framework for which consent can be given for the use of human tissue for the purpose of transplantation, a therapeutic purpose, medical education or scientific research. In certain cases, the approval of an independent assessment committee is required and appeal of the

committee’s decision to the Supreme Court is provided for.

The bill prohibits medical practitioners from participating in the determination of the death of a donor if they have had any association with the proposed recipient of the donor’s tissue or if they will be involved in the transplantation procedure.

The bill also prohibits commercial activity in human tissue. Finally, the bill authorizes the Minister to enter into an agreement with other jurisdictions for mutual recognition and execution of consents. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy. The motion is in order. To the principle of the bill.

Some Hon. Members

Question.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Question has been called. Bill 29 has had second reading and is referred to committee.

---Carried

Mr. Beaulieu.