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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I see a couple of things here with the shop replacements. I guess focusing first on the Inuvik shop replacement and just going through the substantiation sheet here. I guess the first question would be: When is the expected construction and ready for move in for the groups that would be moving into the new building?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, Mr. Moses. Minister Beaulieu.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We are expecting the majority of the construction to be in 2017-18. So, at the end of that fiscal year the building should be ready for occupation.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Just in terms of the background on this building and some of the high heating costs, the foundation problems, poorly insulated walls, why wouldn’t this be kind of fast-tracked, especially when it got approval from the Peer Review Committee on April 21, 2011? Why has it taken so long to start the construction and now we’ll have to wait until 2017- 18? Because with the poor insulation, the high heating costs, those all equal to high utility costs. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

We will be starting construction next season, ’16-17. About 25 percent of the budget will be spent this coming construction season.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

I guess, in the interim, while the building is getting constructed, is there anything being done to the current building in terms of the foundation problems as well as the insulation that’s probably resulting, as I said, in high utility costs, and is there also a safety issue with the foundation? If there are foundation problems, is there a safety issue for the people working in the building?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, Mr. Moses. Deputy Minister Guy.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Guy

Thank y

ou, Mr. Chair. The Member’s

correct; the existing buildings are quite old and there are a number of lifecycle issues with them, but we have taken steps to ensure that they are safe to occupy. We have stabilized the foundations. We also have, the staff are working in a number of locations throughout the community. We have some leased storage space that some of their equipment and tools are stored in and we also have a number of vacated buildings that are slated to be disposed of with the completion of this project. But in the short

term, we are taking steps to make sure that they are suitable to use and as this is a new project for consideration in the plan, we are looking forward to moving forward and getting those people into a modern shop environment where they can provide better services to our clients. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you for the update on that. Just in regards to the Capital Asset Retrofit Program, I think it’s a good program and just reading the substantiation sheet, I think

it’s being well served

and well used and we’re seeing some of the paybacks on that. But if you look at the shop replacements for both Inuvik and Fort Simpson and then you look at the one for Norman Wells, there’s included a wood pellet boiler in Norman Wells. Why wasn’t that also an option for Fort Simpson or Inuvik when building the new shops?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Guy

That’s an excellent question. In Fort

Simpson we have a central heat plant there that’s a biomass plant and it’s adjacent to the site where this new bu

ilding that’s under construction now is going

to be located and we plan on connecting that to the biomass district heating system in Fort Simpson. So, that’s been part of the plans and we’re proceeding on that basis.

The Member is correct; in Norman Wells in their Capital Asset Program we are putting in a wood pellet boiler there, as well, and we certainly will be looking at Inuvik as our priority consideration as we get into the development of that project. We will likely be considering one there as well.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, deputy minister. Next on the list I have Mr. Bromley.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Would the Minister be able to estimate what our approximate electricity demand is of all our assets in Yellowknife? I know I

’m asking for some details here. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. Minister Beaulieu.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chair. We do not have that information with us here today but we can get that information and provide it to the committee.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. Mr. Bromley.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.Thanks to the Minister for that. I didn’t expect you to have it right on you, so I appreciate that.

I don’t know the degree to which you would have your finger on the pulse, but I’m wondering what the breakdown is of our lighting in all our Yellowknife assets in terms of energy-efficient lighting. Would we be able to estimate, say, have we converted 10 percent to LEDs, and I don’t know where there are still T12s and T8s around or whether we’ve got better standards now. Something that would give me an idea of how far along we’ve come so far in converting

our Yellowknife assets, lighting, to the most energy- efficient options.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. Deputy Minister Guy.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Guy

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Certainly, I would say we’ve gone through several cycles of upgrading lighting in our Yellowknife facilities. We used to have the lower efficiency fluorescent lights we went through, when that technology was the newest technology, and upgraded most of them to the most efficient fluorescent technology that was available in the day.

In terms of the LED lighting, which we believe is the emerging technology, we are now going back through and looking for opportunities to upgrade those li

ghting packages again. So, really there’s

quite a bit of work to do to go to that next level with LED lighting and we’re starting to do that through some of the work in this plant.

Much of our exterior lighting has been converted. The floodlights and those types of fixtures that are on most of the night on photo cells, they have been more advanced technology. They were some of the earlier ones that were easier to put in, but now that the general purpose lighting has become more cost- effective and more reas

onable we’re going back now

and starting the analysis. So I think as we move forward with the Capital Asset Retrofit Program we are going to see many more projects like that as that technology becomes more mainstream.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

September 30th, 2015

The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, deputy minister. Mr. Bromley.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thanks to the deputy minister for that information. I’m wondering: after lighting, considering electricity demand, what is our next biggest opportunity for energy efficiency improvements in Yellowknife assets.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. Mr. Guy.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Guy

Thank you, Mr. Chair. There are a number of things in the mechanical systems, the circulation pumps, moving to variable frequency drive on our air handlers and on our glycol pumps. Our recirculation pumps are another opportunity. We’ve got lots of projects that we’ve completed along those lines in the Capital Asset Retrofit Fund. They have shown significant quick paybacks and reductions in electrical consumption. Lighting control systems that have outside lighting sensors that can dim down the lights in office space and make better use of the natural lighting is another area where we’ve done a lot of work, and we continue to retrofit on that. Then, obviously, we are also seeing the decrease and the reduction in the cost around solar technology, so we’re starting to look at opportunities to use more solar panels and solar generation in our projects and in our buildings.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thanks for that good information. I guess, since you bring up solar, what’s the potential for our Yellowknife building assets? Do they typically have roofs that are suitable for decent sized installations with respect to the buildings demand?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Guy

In the Capital Asset Retrofit Program we have two smaller scale solar projects that we’re going to put on government assets. They’re not in Yellowknife, but there is one on the new shop in Norman Wells which we will be putting on to see how well we can integrate that technology into governme

nt buildings. We’re also doing one, I

believe, on a health centre in Wrigley as well. We are doing a review to see what the potential is to put solar on some of our roofs in Yellowknife to see if we can use that space. But we also have to take into account the impact that those panels might have on snow load or snow accumulation, the operation of air handling equipment, air conditioning equipment, and other facilities that are on the roof, so there are some technical aspects that we have to evaluate when we do that study as well as the shadow studies from adjacent buildings. We’re starting to look at those opportunities,

but I don’t have a total number yet

from our staff on what the potential would be.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Just for the Yellowknife assets, what sort of schedule would you require to come up with those estimates considering the issues that you’ve mentioned there, speaking to the deputy minister, to have some sort of an idea to be able to move to a program of implementation?