This is page numbers 207 - 232 of the Hansard for the 18th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was housing.

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Members Present

Hon. Glen Abernethy, Mr. Beaulieu, Mr. Blake, Hon. Caroline Cochrane, Ms. Green, Hon. Jackson Lafferty, Hon. Bob McLeod, Hon. Robert McLeod, Mr. McNeely, Hon. Alfred Moses, Mr. Nadli, Mr. Nakimayak, Mr. O’Reilly, Hon. Wally Schumann, Hon. Louis Sebert, Mr. Simpson, Mr. Testart, Mr. Thompson, Mr. Vanthuyne

The House met at 1:29 p.m.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Minister of Transportation.

Minister’s Statement 16-18(2): Canada Transportation Act Review Report Recommendations
Ministers’ Statements

Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Beginning in 2014, the federal government launched a review of the Canada Transportation Act. The purpose of this review was to look forward 20 to 30 years to identify priorities and potential actions in transportation that would support Canada's long-term economic well-being, including that of the Northwest Territories, or NWT, and northern Canada. During the review process, many Northerners contributed, including the Department of Transportation who developed a formal submission highlighting the opportunities and challenges of the NWT transportation system, and met and discussed it with the members of the review panel.

Last week the federal government tabled the final report resulting from this review. I'm pleased to note that several key recommendations for improving transportation in the North are included in the report. These recommendations include developing an infrastructure strategy for all modes of northern transportation, and supporting this strategy by increasing the base level funding in an infrastructure fund for all three territories. The Government of the NWT has consistently lobbied for dedicated base funding to address the needs of our jurisdiction and this recommendation is a positive indication that our voice is being heard.

In its submission to the review panel, the Department of Transportation strongly recommended federal support for key NWT transportation infrastructure projects. The development of three transportation corridors was identified as a priority in Connecting Us, the NWT Transportation Strategy 2015 to 2040, and as part of the 18th Assembly's mandate to capture opportunities for investment in transportation infrastructure that supports community access and economic growth. These efforts have proven effective. I am pleased to inform Members that the final report of the Canada Transport Act Review identifies the Mackenzie Valley corridor, the Tlicho all-season road, and connecting resource development projects in the Slave Geological Province to a larger multi-modal transportation system as transformative nation-building projects where federal corridor development efforts should be focused.

The federal government retains responsibility for the delivery of marine support services in the NWT, including the upkeep of marine resupply facilities. The review panel has recommended that Canada develop a new federal policy vision and regulatory regime that strengthens the safety and reliability of marine transport in the Arctic. Funding support for dredging the Port of Hay River is explicitly mentioned in the final report.

Several recommendations also extend to the northern air sector. Particularly, the report identifies the need to support runway extensions and paving, automated weather systems, and modern landing systems in many northern communities. Augmenting the Airports Capital Assistance the program by investing $50 million over 10 years, or creating a new Northern Airports Capital Assistance Program was also suggested.

The report recognizes that the effects of climate change are having a more dramatic impact on the North than anywhere else in Canada. The report highlights the need for the federal government to continue providing support for the technological innovation as a way to reduce emissions and enhance the performance of transportation systems.

The final report of the Canada Transportation Act Review provides a promising outlook on potential federal support for the NWT transportation system. Canada has committed to using unallocated funds from the National Infrastructure Fund of the New Building Canada Plan to respond to recommendations of the report. We will continue to stay engaged with our partners in the federal government as it responds to the review panel recommendations. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Minister’s Statement 16-18(2): Canada Transportation Act Review Report Recommendations
Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Ministers' statements. Minister responsible for the Status of Women.

Minister’s Statement 17-18(2): 2nd National Roundtable On Missing And Murdered Indigenous Women And Girls
Ministers’ Statements

Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, last week I had the honour to participate in the 2nd National Roundtable on Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women and Girls in Winnipeg. This was an important opportunity for the Northwest Territories to engage in the national discussion on how we can take action together to address the root causes of violence against Indigenous women and girls. The core of this roundtable was the families of missing and murdered Indigenous women. Their voices were heard loudly and clearly, and they want action. Violence against Indigenous women and girls remains a serious issue in the Northwest Territories. I was pleased that Premiers, Ministers, and leaders of Aboriginal organizations agreed as a nation to move forward. The Government of the Northwest Territories is very supportive of the roundtable outcomes, which reflect our mandate and the priorities of the 18th Legislative Assembly. The NWT continues to have the second highest rate of police reported family violence in Canada, with 826 cases reported in 2014. Although this is a drop of six per cent over the previous year, it's clear that there is much work still to be done.

All parties to this year's roundtable agreed to action-based collaboration on a number of priorities in the three theme areas of prevention and awareness, community safety, and culturally relevant policing measures and justice responses. In doing this work, our government will remain committed to the principle that the best results are achieved through collaboration, particularly with the families most directly affected by the issue, and the governments and organizations that represent them. The roundtable was an important opportunity for collaboration and we must continue to work on the issue of missing and murdered Indigenous women and girls with all our partners across Canada and the NWT. This collaboration includes improving communication and coordination between Indigenous families, communities, victim services, policing, prosecutions, women's groups, anti-violence groups, and shelter workers. Roundtable participants will also work together to create and implement national performance measures to assess progress towards addressing and reducing the socio-economic gaps experienced by Indigenous peoples. Central to this work is the Socio-Economic Action Plan for Aboriginal Women currently being developed by the Aboriginal Affairs Working Group.

Mr. Speaker, the Aboriginal Affairs Working Group is a national forum currently chaired by Premier McLeod, who had a leading role in coordinating and chairing the first ever national roundtable in February 2015. The Aboriginal Affairs Working Group will play a central role in moving the outcomes of the second roundtable forward as this group will monitor progress and identify priorities for action. Our government will continue to demonstrate national leadership on this issue and to play an important role in furthering national dialogue. What was clear from the roundtable last week is that the climate of these discussions has very much changed since Premier McLeod helped to initiate this work a year ago. The inaugural roundtable was focused on the steps that governments and National Aboriginal Organizations could take in the absence of a national inquiry. The roundtable last week took place with the federal government now fully committed to a national inquiry and provinces and territories committed to work with Canada. There is also agreement that the national inquiry must tackle issues associated with the violence being experienced by Aboriginal women and girls. The Government of the Northwest Territories has long expressed its support for the national Aboriginal organizations' call for a national inquiry. We appreciate the federal government's level of engagement with Canadians, particularly the families of missing and murdered Indigenous women and girls, during the pre-inquiry meetings that have been held across Canada. I was pleased to hear the federal government acknowledge the importance of reconciliation and the role of all Canadians in stopping the violence.

It is important that we honour and respect the wishes of the family members of missing and murdered Indigenous women and girls, and that we embrace the philosophy of “nothing about us without us” as we continue to work on this issue. It is those who have experienced the violence that best know the issue, and the presence of family members during the roundtable was invaluable. I was also honoured to be joined by a board member from the Native Women's Association of the Northwest Territories and a family member of a missing murdered Indigenous woman. I would like to thank both women for their courage, strength, and all of the effort they have given to ensure that this event included the voices of northern Indigenous women. I hope that we will see real change as a result of the work in the near future. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Minister’s Statement 17-18(2): 2nd National Roundtable On Missing And Murdered Indigenous Women And Girls
Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Ministers’ statements. Minister of Environment and Natural Resources.

Minister’s Statement 18-18(2): Importance Of Partnerships
Ministers’ Statements

Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Collaboration is one of the priorities of the Assembly and is an important part of how the Government of the Northwest Territories does business. That includes developing and fostering effective partnerships in supporting a comprehensive and collaborative approach to managing and conserving our environment and our wildlife, forests and water resources.

Engaging with a wide range of partners including Aboriginal governments and communities, regulatory and co-management boards, non-governmental organizations, funding agencies and academic institutions can ensure we are using the best available scientific, traditional, and local knowledge in decision-making processes.

Partnerships offer the opportunity to access additional scientific expertise, build community capacity and leverage additional funding to better inform our government of potential impacts on the environment from climate change and development. This increased knowledge will not only help us adapt to a changing climate, it will also better position us as a responsible manager of our land and our water.

Current examples of successful partnerships include the Mackenzie DataStream, a new community-based water data website funded by The Walter and Duncan Gordon Foundation in close collaboration with our government. We have also partnered on a new climate change prediction tool developed with the University of Alaska, Fairbanks for our communities. Another partnership led by the University of Alberta, our government, and the Mackenzie River Basin Board recently received funding from the Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council for a six-year traditional and local knowledge research project.

The main goal of the project is to determine and to demonstrate the importance of local and traditional knowledge to our understanding of social and ecological change in the Mackenzie River Basin and incorporation within regional, territorial, provincial, and federal decisions. These projects highlight the role that effective and diverse partnerships can play in meeting our research needs and the expectations of residents for wise and effective decision-making.

The Department of Environment and Natural Resources will continue to develop, foster, and promote effective partnerships, which meet its mandate and offer opportunities for Aboriginal and community capacity building. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Minister’s Statement 18-18(2): Importance Of Partnerships
Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Ministers’ statements. Colleagues, I would like to draw your attention to the visitors in the gallery. We have Mr. Michael McLeod, who is the current Member of Parliament for Northwest Territories, a former Minister, and former Member for Deh Cho. Masi for being with us. I would also like to recognize Mr. Sam Gargan, former Member for Deh Cho, former Speaker, and former Member. Welcome.

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Item 3, Members’ statements. Member for Yellowknife North.

Expansion Of Midwifery Services
Members’ Statements

Cory Vanthuyne

Cory Vanthuyne Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, a cornerstone of our healthcare system is how we look after pregnancy and childbirth. The government's program Right from the Start focuses on measures that support a healthy start to life and positive outcomes for mothers and babies. One of the main action areas of that program is the expansion of midwifery services. However, action on this matter has seemingly slowed down significantly. Women whose prenatal care is led by a midwife tend to have few complications in pregnancy and childbirth and almost equally important, they are able to stay closer to home during this significant time.

According to the 2011 census, there were 690 births in the Northwest Territories that year. Over half these births were to families outside the capital, but the majority of these mothers had to travel, at significant cost to government, to larger centres to give birth, leaving fathers, siblings, grandparents and other critical community supports. The social and medical benefits of midwifery are well established, but what is perhaps less well known is the fact that, where midwifery services are established, the cost to the health system actually goes down. Recent studies done in Alberta identify that a course of care led by a midwife can cost up to $1,200 less than the same care provided by a doctor. Reducing the cost of the quality of health care is surely an idea that the government should get behind.

At this time, I would also like to recognize the considerable efforts of the NWT Citizens for Midwifery. They are an advocacy group consisting of women and men who are mobilizing support for a territorial midwifery program that includes the capital city. I want to thank them for continuing to show their support for the expansion of midwifery in the North. It was great to see many folks had taken part in the march from the post office to the Ledge over the lunch hour today in support of midwifery. At the appropriate time, I will have questions for the Minister of Health and Social Services in this regard. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Expansion Of Midwifery Services
Members’ Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Members' statements. Member for Frame Lake.

Expansion Of Midwifery Services
Members’ Statements

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I too had the pleasure of greeting some of the midwifery representatives over the noon hour. It was early in the last Assembly when after much advocacy, work began on establishing a strong regional and capital city midwifery program. There were demonstrations, petitions, letter writing, and other campaigns. A commitment was made to expand the Fort Smith program to Hay River, the Beaufort-Delta, Behchoko, and Yellowknife. A start was made and we have since seen progress in Hay River and Fort Smith. In July 2015, the Minister said that the next goal was to move forward with the territorial model based out of Yellowknife in 2015-16 so that the full rollout could be done in 2016-17. The Minister stated in July 2015 that he was still committed to introducing midwifery services based in Yellowknife, and would expand the program into the regions starting with the Deh Cho region and Behchoko. The Beaufort-Delta has since reconsidered this approach, I am told, but that still leaves Yellowknife, the Deh Cho, and Behchoko.

In Yellowknife, I am informed that we now have a midwife coordinator position, but the coordinator has no midwives to coordinate. Progress to date has been poor. Delivery on commitments that the advocates fought so hard for is still lacking. I would like to point out that, quite apart from establishing a model for obstetrical care preferred and asked for by many mothers and families, this just makes plain fiscal sense, as my colleague just mentioned. The government laments the sorry state of its finances, yet we still have a delivery program for birthing that is not as cost-effective as it might be. Once rolled out regionally, this approach offers major savings in patient transportation and accommodation costs, and the establishment of midwifery services rejuvenates the cultural traditions of community birthing by expert mothers and matriarchs. Midwifery advocates who fought so hard for these commitments by government are understandably disappointed by the failure to deliver on promises, as we saw outside the Assembly earlier today. Mothers-to-be across the Northwest Territories want to have their babies with the assistance of well-trained midwives. Mr. Speaker, I would like to seek consent to conclude my statement.

---Unanimous consent granted

Expansion Of Midwifery Services
Members’ Statements

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mothers-to-be across the Northwest Territories want to have their babies with the assistance of well-trained midwives who are supported by a comprehensive, stable, and well-funded midwifery program in all of the regional centres across the Northwest Territories. For the sake of our young families, I hope the Minister will confirm real progress and certainty on moving forward with midwifery in the Northwest Territories. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

Expansion Of Midwifery Services
Members’ Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Members' statements. Member for Nahendeh.

Recognition Of Martina Norwegian, Wise Woman Award Recipient
Members’ Statements

Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Mahsi cho, Mr. Speaker. Today I stand in this House to recognize an amazing woman that I have had the pleasure of knowing for almost 23 years. Martina Norwegian was one of this year's winners of the Wise Women Awards 2016. I had the pleasure of meeting Martina about a month into moving to Fort Simpson. We were looking for an individual to look after my children and lucked out. Her name was given to us, and luckily for my children and myself, she agreed to look after them. It was a great experience for my children. I would consider one of the reasons my children love Fort Simpson so much is because of Ms. Norwegian.

Ms. Norwegian was born and raised in Liidlii Kue and comes from humble beginnings. She understood the importance of education. I had the pleasure of watching her advocate for education as a private citizen. Then, she took the steps to get involved with the local divisional education authority and was elected to be Fort Simpson's representative to the Deh Cho Divisional Education Authority. Once there, she was elected to be the chairperson. Like the award said, both local and divisional councils relied on her wise words and direction during her time on both community councils.

I realize I cannot do justice to Ms. Norwegian today in this short Member's statement, but I would like to highlight a few of her accomplishments and achievements that were identified in her nomination. Ms. Norwegian is very much involved in the community. Ms. Norwegian is very interested in spreading the word of God and is a representative for On Eagle's Wings Children's Ministry. To add to her commitment, she is heavily involved in the group of ladies that are fundraising to build a new church. Now, you would think that with all this work going on in her life, she would not have a lot of time to do other things. Wrong. This lady has found time to be part of the historical society, helping preserve the local history for over 25 years. Ms. Norwegian is a very strong leader in the community and region and one that people look up to. She has a quiet and caring nature that is always helping to empower other woman to do their best. In closing, I would like to congratulate Ms. Norwegian on winning the award and wish her all the best in her future endeavours. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Recognition Of Martina Norwegian, Wise Woman Award Recipient
Members’ Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Members’ statements. Member for Sahtu.

Best Wishes To Sahtu Athletes Participating In 2016 Arctic Winter Games
Members’ Statements

Daniel McNeely

Daniel McNeely Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I rise in the House here to acknowledge the participants and youth of the Sahtu riding and particularly two communities. Today, I would like to congratulate our Sahtu athletes who are participating in the 2016 Arctic Winter Games to be held in Nuuk, Greenland, this coming March, which is the next few days. On behalf of the Sahtu, I send my highest congratulations to Whitney Andre, Tristan Dolphus, Naomi Yukon, Dalton Takazo, and Dallas Roach, from Deline, and Emily Hodson from Norman Wells, chaperoned by Bobby Birk also from Norman Wells. The Arctic Winter Games is a significant part of the Northwest Territories and an international icon across Canada. I also wish all who are travelling with the Minister the best of the best, and safe travels. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

Best Wishes To Sahtu Athletes Participating In 2016 Arctic Winter Games
Members’ Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Members' statements. Member for Deh Cho.

Hay River Reserve Housing Concerns
Members’ Statements

Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. [English translation not provided.] We have the will to resolve this problem. We have a new 18th Legislative Assembly, one which appears committed to making positive changes. Today I am asking the GNWT to demonstrate the political will needed to get people into these vacant houses without further delay. If the problem lies with the eligibility criteria for the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation Home Ownership Program, then change the criteria. The program should meet the needs of the people living on the Hay River Reserve not the other way around. If this won't work, then convert these vacant units to social housing units so that people meeting the criteria for social housing programs can get into them. If the problem lies with land tenure, then work with Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development Canada to re-designate the lots that the houses sit on so that those parcels of land may become lease lands. Above all, work with the K'atl'odeeche First Nation to get this matter resolved and get people into these houses while the houses are still serviceable.

The band is in the process of negotiating issues of jurisdiction and governance on the reserve. If the band is willing and able to resume responsibility for funding housing on the reserve rather than having it flow through the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation, they should be supported to do so. After all, the provision and management of housing on reserve lands is the responsibility of most First Nations in southern Canada. I urge the GNWT to work with the band and Indigenous Affairs and Northern Development Canada to maybe sort out the jurisdictional matters related to these houses, re-classify the empty units as public social housing if possible, and make them available to band members as soon as possible. Masi, Mr. Speaker.

Hay River Reserve Housing Concerns
Members’ Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Members, I would like to draw your attention to the visitors in the gallery. We have Yellowknives Dene Chief Edward Sangris, here with us. Welcome.

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Members’ statements. Member for Yellowknife Centre.

Recreation And Parks Association Walk To Tuk Challenge
Members’ Statements

Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I rise today to congratulate the NWT Recreation and Parks Association on the sixth annual Walk to Tuk. A dozen of my colleagues here in the House reached Tuktoyaktuk yesterday joining hundreds of others who got there before us.

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It was close, Mr. Speaker.

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The Recreation and Parks Association is a non-profit that works with communities across the NWT to promote healthy living through active recreation. It offers a variety of programs. The Walk to Tuk is the largest, longest, and most effective physical activity undertaken in the NWT each year. There were nearly 200 teams and 2,600 walkers from 22 NWT communities. Here are the results; they're truly staggering. Together we walked 456,117 kilometres for an equivalent of 107,000 hours of walking. The Walk to Tuk is 1,658 kilometres. Teams don't literally walk to Tuk of course, but rather walk to work, walk the dog, jog, ski, snowshoe, or walk on a track. Teams are up to 20 members and together they left the starting point in Fort Providence on January 4th. Each hour a member walks counts as four kilometres on the teams with 10 or more, which was the case for ourselves. There's lots of interest from team members about where they are and where other teams are in comparison.

The Members of the Legislative Assembly had a team for the first time. A group of 12 of us decided that we would keep up the walking we were doing while campaigning. The Poly Walkers started slowly, walking 350 kilometres within the first two weeks taking us south of Wrigley. Then, in the midpoint, we were at Tulita and then at Fort Good Hope, and then we had to pour it on and do 700 kilometres in the last two weeks. I want to give the team credit for coming through and especially Shane Thompson and Robert C. McLeod who pulled out all the stops walking over 20 hours each in the last two weeks. It can be challenging to be active in the North in January and February. The Walk to Tuk is a brilliant way to encourage people to stay active in these cold months. It awakens their competitiveness. I want to congratulate all the teams who participated in the program this year, and don't stop now. Turn around and head back during the warm and sunny days of spring. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Recreation And Parks Association Walk To Tuk Challenge
Members’ Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Members’ statements. Member for Mackenzie Delta.

Challenges Related To Negotiating Self-Government Agreements
Members’ Statements

Frederick Blake Jr.

Frederick Blake Jr. Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I want to talk a bit about the negotiations we are currently in. As you know, we have a couple outstanding land claims negotiations that have been underway for a number of years, but also self-government. We have a couple self-government organizations that are very close to an agreement. We have the Inuvialuit. Also, the Gwich'in are working towards an agreement-in-principle. There are number of challenges that our governments are facing under negotiations and some of them range from taking over programs at current levels. It's very difficult for our Aboriginal governments to agree to these sort of negotiations, because as we all know the cost of doing business goes up every year.

Looking down the road, 10 to 20 years from now, we cannot offer our programs at the current level it is now. We have to have a common interest when we're negotiating these self-government agreements, and with a common interest, we need to work together to ensure that we have self-government agreements that'll be positive for our future generations, because they're the ones to take over the self-government agreements. I'd like to thank all those who are negotiating. Recently, we also completed our mandate here in the 18th Legislative Assembly, so I think now is the time that we actually look back at our self-government negotiations mandate and also make changes there as well. I'll have questions for the honourable Premier later today. Thank you.

Challenges Related To Negotiating Self-Government Agreements
Members’ Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Members' statements. Member Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh.

Housing Programs Eligibility
Members’ Statements

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Marsi cho, Mr. Speaker. [English translation not provided.]

Mr. Speaker, I'd like to start off with a story of a few elders in Lutselk'e and their housing issues. About seven years ago, I began to advocate for the elders to have the northern territorial rental public housing units transferred into their ownership. About a year or so ago they were transferred into their names. They were very happy, but their happiness was short-lived. These units were built in the late ‘60s or early 1970s and when the elders applied for repair programs, they were hit with a barrage of reasons why they were ineligible for NWT Housing Corporation programs. The main reason the elders had difficulty was that they need to have house insurance. Without the elders holding house insurance, the NWT Housing Corporation could not protect their investment into the elder's home. There are many areas where the NWT Housing Corporation find the elders ineligible, but the house insurance is probably the worst one. House insurance premiums in the community where there are no fire departments other than two or three volunteer firefighters and communities with no fire hydrants are extremely high. Without assistance from the NWT Housing Corporation, it is impossible for elders living on old age securities to have their homes repaired or pay for their own repairs. Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my Member's statement.

---Unanimous consent granted.

Housing Programs Eligibility
Members’ Statements

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it is the mandate of the NWT Housing Corporation to reduce core need in the NWT. Core need in my hometown of Fort Resolution is 50 per cent, a large majority with adequacy as a main housing problem. When a household has adequacy as a main housing problem, the house needs repairs, renovation or retrofit to address the core need issue. The NWT Housing Corporation must find a way to deliver appropriate programs to address core needs of people in the NWT. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Housing Programs Eligibility
Members’ Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Members' statements. Member for Nunakput.

Best Wishes To Nunakput Athletes Participating In 2016 Arctic Winter Games
Members’ Statements

Herbert Nakimayak

Herbert Nakimayak Nunakput

Quyanainni, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I'd like to wish the Team NWT athletes participating in the upcoming Arctic Winter Games in Iqaluit, Nunavut and Nuuk, Greenland all the best as they gather to display sportsmanship and fair play during the circumpolar celebration. I'd like to commend the following athletes from Nunakput who are attending Arctic Sports: Gemma Gruben, Agnes Kregnektak, Cassandra Kuptana, Sophie Dufour, Dawson Elias, Jacob Pokiak, Blaine Pingo, Robin Raddy Jr., Mikayla Jacobson, Jewell Kuvik, my nephew Joel Thrasher Jr., and their coach Mr. Charles Komiak. I'd also like to commend the following athletes for the snowshoe biathlon: Lucy Anokina and Jacob Klinkenberg. I would like to wish all the athletes safe travels to and from the Arctic Winter Games. Quyanainni, Mr. Speaker.

Best Wishes To Nunakput Athletes Participating In 2016 Arctic Winter Games
Members’ Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Members' statements. Member for Hay River North.

Expansion Of The Taltson Hydroelectric Project
Members’ Statements

R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Earlier, the Minister of Transportation made a statement about some of the major infrastructure projects that we hope will go forward and help facilitate long-term revenue generation. As a government, we need to support visionary projects like these that will secure a strong and prosperous future. One such project that hasn't received enough attention and has amazing potential for the NWT is the expansion and southern connection of the Taltson hydro dam. Currently, the dam can produce up to 18 megawatts of which we use about 10. If upgraded, it could produce 190 megawatts. Taltson is only 200 kilometres from Uranium City, Saskatchewan. That means right now we're only 200 kilometres away from being connected into the continental grid. We'll essentially be able to sell as much electricity as we can produce, providing a revenue stream for generations to come. We need buy-in from Saskatchewan because the infrastructure from Uranium City to the south needs to be upgraded to accommodate the excess load, but the province has committed to doubling the amount of renewable energy it uses by 2013 and we're right at their doorstep.

While the project is costly, the federal Liberals have committed money for renewable energy projects, and just like the proposed highway projects, we may be eligible for up to a 75 per cent contribution. In 2013, the NWT Power System Plan recommended a 20-year plan for the southern expansion of Taltson, finding it would have positive impacts and create jobs. The NWT's 2013 Energy Action Plan states that a large-scale project like this presents the best opportunity for a fundamental change in energy supply. The federal Senate Committee on Energy, the Environment and Natural Resources said, “That the absence of a link for the continental grid leads to costly and inefficient outcomes.” A key result of the 2014 NWT Energy Charette was a call to find ways to make use of the excess energy potential in the Taltson system. Over and over again, we say this is a good idea. Resource extraction is vital to our future, but we can't limit our investments to just highways. We have a resource with amazing potential and an eager market at our doorstep. It's time we think big and make investments in our renewable future. At the appropriate time, I'll have questions for the Minister responsible for the NWT Power Corporation. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Expansion Of The Taltson Hydroelectric Project
Members’ Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Members' statements. Item 4, reports of standing and special committees. Item 5, returns to oral questions. Item 6, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Honourable Member for Great Slave.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'd like to recognize two different individuals: Victoria Baker and Sheena Goudreau. Both are senior nursing consultants with the territorial health services division in the Department of Health and Social Services. Welcome to the gallery.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Honourable Member for Inuvik Boot Lake.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I'm very happy to have three of my sisters joining us and taking in the proceedings, and I'll introduce them from youngest to oldest. Starting off with my youngest sister, Heather Moses, Laura Moses, and Agnes Pascal. I'm really glad they can be joining us here today. It is their first time in the Legislative Assembly and hopefully we will be able to get them a tour at some point, but welcome for joining us today. Mahsi.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'd like to recognize Chief Eddie Sangris from Detah. I'd also like to recognize my interpreter, Tommy. Thank you.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member for Deh Cho.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it's rare that I have visitors from my constituency, but I take great pride in recognizing two individuals that I recognize. I think he's still here, Sam Gargan, former Speaker, former MLA, and former chief, and currently the mayor of the Hamlet of Fort Providence, and also Michael McLeod, the MP for the Western Arctic, a former Minister, and a former MLA as well. Welcome to the House. Mahsi.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member for Yellowknife Centre.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'd like to acknowledge a Page from my riding. Her name is Robyne Walsh and she's a grade 10 student at Sir John Franklin High School. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Honourable Member for Yellowknife South.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm very pleased to recognize some relatives and some friends from my hometown of Fort Providence: Mayor Sam Gargan, Pearl Leishman, Susan Christie, Shirley Gargan, and Ricky Gargan. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Recognition of visitors in the gallery. I'd like to welcome all the visitors in the gallery here today. It's always great to have an audience during our proceedings. Masi. Item 7, acknowledgements. Item 8, oral questions. Oral questions. Member for Yellowknife North.

Question 84-18(2): Status Of Territorial Midwifery Services
Oral Questions

Cory Vanthuyne

Cory Vanthuyne Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Minister of Health and Social Services. As I mentioned in my Member’s statement earlier, the government has an initiative to move towards a territorial midwifery strategy. Two midwifery consultants have been working since last fall in program development and stakeholder consultation. Can the Minister update us on the current status of the NWT midwifery initiative, including the provision of midwifery services in Yellowknife? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 84-18(2): Status Of Territorial Midwifery Services
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi, Minister of Health and Social Services.

Question 84-18(2): Status Of Territorial Midwifery Services
Oral Questions

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we moved forward with midwives and stabilized midwives in Fort Smith, so there are two positions there providing birthing services in the community. We also have two staffed midwife positions in Hay River that are providing birthing services, as well as other services in the community. We did move forward with a model in the Beaufort-Delta. Originally, we were planning to have a community-based midwifery program there, but our demographics and some of our information changed. As a result, we went with a more community-based, or more regional, model that is supported by physicians and the MOREOB program, as well as one nurse practitioner consultant who also happened to be a midwife in a previous career. Since then, we have been able to expedite the work that we are planning to do in the 2016-2017 fiscal year, and we were able to start that in the 2015-2016 fiscal year as a result of those changes in the Beaufort-Delta.

We have actually hired two consultants. It took a little longer to hire those consultants than we would have liked. It was difficult to find the appropriate staff. These consultants are working on basically three broad areas. First, strengthening and supporting the current midwifery practice in the Northwest Territories. This includes updating policies, reviewing and revising standards, and reintroducing the Midwifery Advisory Committee. They are also building on the 2012 report to continue community and territorial program design, so they put together, or rather they are putting together some terms of reference that will outline the work that they are going to be doing in that nature to move forward with the territorial program that includes midwifery services here in Yellowknife. Third, they are also doing monitoring and evaluation to ensure that the services are being provided appropriately and effectively. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 84-18(2): Status Of Territorial Midwifery Services
Oral Questions

Cory Vanthuyne

Cory Vanthuyne Yellowknife North

Thank you to the Minister for his reply. Can the Minister advise the House: Are there plans to include a midwifery unit in the new Stanton Hospital project?

Question 84-18(2): Status Of Territorial Midwifery Services
Oral Questions

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

There is no designated midwifery unit in the hospital, as midwifery is primarily a community-based service versus an acute care service. If the territorial midwifery program is advanced to implementation, part of the development will be to include identifying an appropriate location that best fits the needs of the program. As a note, Mr. Speaker, the three birthing rooms in the new hospital are sized to include birthing tubs, which would allow for water birth. Those rooms actually, the physical layout and how those tubs will be utilized, the midwifery consultants actually had some opportunity to provide some input on how that would be done. The midwifery staff have been having conversations about how those rooms can be used in the future.

Question 84-18(2): Status Of Territorial Midwifery Services
Oral Questions

Cory Vanthuyne

Cory Vanthuyne Yellowknife North

We are only four years from the last midwifery report. Can the Minister clarify what outcomes are expected in the current consultation efforts that will be different than the outcomes that came in the 2012 Midwifery Options Report?

Question 84-18(2): Status Of Territorial Midwifery Services
Oral Questions

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

The 2012 report was more of an aspirational report. It wasn't actually a prescribed plan. It proposed three models for conversation: a community-based model, which the consultants felt could work in communities like Hay River, Inuvik, Yellowknife, or Behchoko; a regional model, which the consultants felt could work in the Beaufort-Delta, the Sahtu, or the Tlicho regions; and a territorial model. We did move forward and stabilize the midwifery services in Fort Smith. We did expand and provide midwifery services in Hay River. The realities in the Beaufort-Delta changed when we were actually looking at a community-based model for Inuvik. We had locum physicians, we didn't have any permanent staff, so there was a lot of turnover and inconsistency in birthing services, and we also had a very high rate of births.

The birth rates in the Beaufort-Delta have come down, and we now have stable staff in the Beaufort-Delta. As a result, we went with more of a regional model in Inuvik. The difference is we are actually moving forward on a territorial design, which is more than an aspirational document. It's a structured document outlining how we will provide the services both in Yellowknife and at a territorial level. It's actually a plan to move forward with some of the suggestions that were provided in the 2012 report.

Question 84-18(2): Status Of Territorial Midwifery Services
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Yellowknife North.

Question 84-18(2): Status Of Territorial Midwifery Services
Oral Questions

Cory Vanthuyne

Cory Vanthuyne Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thank you to the Minister for his answer. Lastly, advocacy groups like NWT Citizens for Midwifery are made up of moms, women with knowledge and experience in this area. Can the Minister tell us what opportunities there will be for these groups to be involved in the important initiative going forward? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 84-18(2): Status Of Territorial Midwifery Services
Oral Questions

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

It's going to be really important to get feedback from as many interested parties as possible, and over the next year, the department will reach out to community members, Aboriginal organizations, healthcare practitioners, and others from across the Northwest Territories to help develop an understanding of the strengths and gaps in the priorities for the enhancement of midwifery services at a territorial and Yellowknife level. The timing and details of the consultation plan will be developed by March 2017, and we hope to have a completed proposal for development of the territorial midwifery program at that time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 84-18(2): Status Of Territorial Midwifery Services
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Nunakput.

Question 85-18(2): Social And Economic Commitments Related To The Inuvik-Tuktoyaktuk Highway Project
Oral Questions

February 29th, 2016

Herbert Nakimayak

Herbert Nakimayak Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my questions are for the Minister of Transportation regarding the Inuvik-Tuktoyaktuk Highway, specifically about the progress the department has made to fulfill the social and environment commitments made before construction began. Quyanainni, Mr. Speaker.

Question 85-18(2): Social And Economic Commitments Related To The Inuvik-Tuktoyaktuk Highway Project
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Minister of Transportation.

Question 85-18(2): Social And Economic Commitments Related To The Inuvik-Tuktoyaktuk Highway Project
Oral Questions

Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Inuvik-Tuktoyaktuk Highway is a national level strategic project that is much more than a construction of a highway. Both contractors, EGT and Northwind, are gaining experience in major construction project management, logistics management, human resource management, media relations, and financial management. This experience will give them the confidence to take on further challenges that will enable them and the people who work for them to be successful. This capacity building benefit will assist northern companies to become strong and capable, and have the confidence to take on future challenges. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 85-18(2): Social And Economic Commitments Related To The Inuvik-Tuktoyaktuk Highway Project
Oral Questions

Herbert Nakimayak

Herbert Nakimayak Nunakput

Another aspect of capacity building is in delivering training opportunities to residents in the region. Can the Minister detail the training opportunities available to residents?

Question 85-18(2): Social And Economic Commitments Related To The Inuvik-Tuktoyaktuk Highway Project
Oral Questions

Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

Delivering meaningful training opportunities contributes to a sustainable future of northern residents who wish to enter into the construction industry. To date, the contractors' training focuses have been on operating heavy equipment. As I mentioned earlier this week, more than 70 people from the region are now trained as heavy equipment operators, and more than 30 individuals have been trained as Class 1 and Class 3 drivers with air brakes. Another heavy equipment operator training course is going to be available for Beaufort-Delta residents in the 2016 season. Nine seats are available in a 15-week course that will be delivered in Fort Smith beginning in April.

We encourage residents to contact Aurora College for more information and apply on these courses. These training opportunities will provide valuable and transferable skills to allow residents to take advantage of job opportunities associated with other developments ongoing across the Northwest Territories.

Question 85-18(2): Social And Economic Commitments Related To The Inuvik-Tuktoyaktuk Highway Project
Oral Questions

Herbert Nakimayak

Herbert Nakimayak Nunakput

During the environmental assessment for the Inuvik-Tuktoyaktuk Highway project, the Department of Transportation made many commitments about reducing its impacts on the environment and the people of the Inuvialuit settlement region. My question is: how does the department track its progress on these commitments, and how is the department measuring its performance against those commitments?

Question 85-18(2): Social And Economic Commitments Related To The Inuvik-Tuktoyaktuk Highway Project
Oral Questions

Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

The department has made over 230 commitments during the environmental assessment, and each one has been implemented, monitored, and reported on. Most of the commitments are also being tracked through the regulatory approval, such as land use permits and water licences. These permits and licences come with all typical monitoring and reporting, so there's constant and timely feedback. We track the status of all commitments on a real-time basis, and any issues or potential issues are brought forward to the management group on a timely action.

Question 85-18(2): Social And Economic Commitments Related To The Inuvik-Tuktoyaktuk Highway Project
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Nunakput.

Question 85-18(2): Social And Economic Commitments Related To The Inuvik-Tuktoyaktuk Highway Project
Oral Questions

Herbert Nakimayak

Herbert Nakimayak Nunakput

Quyanainni, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, can the Minister provide assurance that the department is implementing its environment stewardship responsibilities for this project? Quyanainni, Mr. Speaker.

Question 85-18(2): Social And Economic Commitments Related To The Inuvik-Tuktoyaktuk Highway Project
Oral Questions

Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

The department is working closely with many regulators that have mandates regarding the Inuvik-Tuktoyaktuk Highway, including the Inuvialuit Land Administration and the Inuvialuit Water Board, as well as the departments of Lands and Environment and Natural Resources. Recognizing that the new highway will change access to fantastic nearby fisheries, the department has provided funding and other resources to fishery managers to create a fisheries management plan along the Inuvik-Tuktoyaktuk Highway corridor. To satisfy wildlife commitments that came from the environmental assessment, DOT is working very closely with the local ENR office by supporting a dedicated ENR wildlife biologist. That biologist also works closely with the environment and wildlife monitors working for the ILA and for the contractor. These monitors are on site whenever there is active work going on, in order to observe the wildlife and report any potential impacts.

In addition, the department has three environmental staff dedicated to this project. One focuses on the regulatory requirements and environment commitments. Two others are located in Inuvik and are permanently working on the highway. They work with the contractors' staff, environmental and wildlife monitors, and any stakeholders and regulators to ensure nothing is missed and as issues arise.

Question 85-18(2): Social And Economic Commitments Related To The Inuvik-Tuktoyaktuk Highway Project
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Sahtu.

Question 86-18(2): Sahtu Regional Trades Technology Centre
Oral Questions

Daniel McNeely

Daniel McNeely Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today my question is to the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment. It's in regards to carrying on the torch here on Sahtu regional trades technical centre. My predecessor brought this up many times. In my research here, I want to quote a motion that was passed. It says, “Now, therefore I move, seconded by the honourable Member of the Yellowknife Centre.” This is a document dated February 2014. It says, “The GNWT will conduct a planning study in the 2014-2015 fiscal year for a Sahtu regional institute of technology, and further, that the Government of the Northwest Territories provide a response to this motion within 120 days.” I think we're beyond that 120 days. I'm wondering if there is a response. No, I'm just kidding. My question to the Minister is if we can reactivate that study and move forward, revisit it to see if there's viability for this trades tech centre in one of the Sahtu communities. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 86-18(2): Sahtu Regional Trades Technology Centre
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Minister of Education, Culture and Employment.

Question 86-18(2): Sahtu Regional Trades Technology Centre
Oral Questions

Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The feasibility study that was conducted in 2014-2015 to examine the viability and a regional institute of technology in the Sahtu was brought forth to the department, and we shared that report with the Member for Sahtu at that time in the 17th Legislative Assembly. Unfortunately, the final report did mention that it was not feasible at this time to move forward on this initiative. The Member did ask if we would revive that report. I have no problems sharing that report with the new Member and moving forward to see how we can best look at providing programs and services in terms of trades and industry work. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 86-18(2): Sahtu Regional Trades Technology Centre
Oral Questions

Daniel McNeely

Daniel McNeely Sahtu

I welcome that initiative here, and some things have changed since that time. I guess one cost measure in favour of this institution to revisit or review, is that the four bands in the Sahtu most recently have formed a joint venture, acquired some building assets from the former hotel owner and have moved on to acquire another…

Question 86-18(2): Sahtu Regional Trades Technology Centre
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Member for Sahtu, could you ask your question, please?

Question 86-18(2): Sahtu Regional Trades Technology Centre
Oral Questions

Daniel McNeely

Daniel McNeely Sahtu

My question of the Minister is: will he be willing to look at the building bought by the bands as well, because we've got a building?

Question 86-18(2): Sahtu Regional Trades Technology Centre
Oral Questions

Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Any decisions regarding increased training facilities or training program deliveries need to be made with a territorial context, as well as subject to the GNWT's capital planning process. What I would like to share with the Member, though, is that the Sahtu does have a regional training partnership that has been re-established. From my understanding, they stopped operating in 2013; however, the ECE Sahtu regional office is utilizing community employment officers as points of contact for community leaders, businesses, as well as residents to bring forward these training initiatives. I would be looking at working and also discussing some of these options, in which the department is also an active member. I'm looking forward to working with the Regional Training Partnership Committee to see what options there are in the Sahtu.

Question 86-18(2): Sahtu Regional Trades Technology Centre
Oral Questions

Daniel McNeely

Daniel McNeely Sahtu

It's good to hear that there's principle to engage on a move-forward plan. My next question is: is it the willingness of the Minister to come and visit one of the Sahtu communities, have a look at these buildings and the other elements to form a forward plan here for revisiting the institution of setting up of Sahtu Tech?

Question 86-18(2): Sahtu Regional Trades Technology Centre
Oral Questions

Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

A couple of things. The Skills 4 Success Initiative that we're going to be working on is going to build the foundation for what is needed out in the labour force, as what are the community needs. I did mention earlier in this session that we were going to be releasing the Labour Market Information Report that's going to guide us along the way in terms of all regions and what they need in terms of labour market workforce. With the department and my commitment to getting out to the committees and the regions to see what is needed, I can work with the Member to look at when we can make a visit to the Sahtu.

Question 86-18(2): Sahtu Regional Trades Technology Centre
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Sahtu.

Question 86-18(2): Sahtu Regional Trades Technology Centre
Oral Questions

Daniel McNeely

Daniel McNeely Sahtu

Would the Minister propose some dates in the next 90 days -- I know we're going to be busy, but “proposed” is the right choice of words on dates there -- for a site community visit to analyze this potential?

Question 86-18(2): Sahtu Regional Trades Technology Centre
Oral Questions

Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

As mentioned, the Sahtu Training Partnership Committee that's formed I would be willing to meet with that group as well and we can get some dates in place for the Member to see the best time to make the visit into the Sahtu.

Question 86-18(2): Sahtu Regional Trades Technology Centre
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Kam Lake.

Question 87-18(2): Provision Of RCMP Staff Housing Units
Oral Questions

Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, recently the Housing Corporation announced a plan to build 40 new units for RCMP housing, new energy-efficiency units. Would the Minister responsible for the NWT Housing Corporation answer some questions about this? The federal government got out of RCMP housing because it was no longer cost-effective. Why is our financially challenged government taking this on and how we will make it cost-effective? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 87-18(2): Provision Of RCMP Staff Housing Units
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Minister responsible for the NWT Housing Corporation.

Question 87-18(2): Provision Of RCMP Staff Housing Units
Oral Questions

Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The federal government is actually getting out of the provision of housing for RCMP officers effective April 1, so we don't have a lot of time to work on this. Their reasoning is that they don't want to do the retrofitting to the current housing that they're in. The NWT Housing Corporation is not looking at taking on their current housing, but providing services to the RCMP. Because of economy of scale, it's easier for us to provide all of the housing versus having to have them negotiate individually with market housing before April 1st. Thank you.

Question 87-18(2): Provision Of RCMP Staff Housing Units
Oral Questions

Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

We've heard a lot about how our priorities have to be tempered by our fiscal restraints. I think there's a concern for many people that if the Housing Corporation is overreaching with new projects we may not have enough resources to go to very important social housing. Would the Minister tell us where this money is going to come from and whether or not it is confirmed spending?

Question 87-18(2): Provision Of RCMP Staff Housing Units
Oral Questions

Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Nothing at this moment is confirmed. We're still in negotiations with Justice and the federal government. Once we decide upon it, we would be putting in a request to the Financial Management Board. The money, actually, will not take away from social housing at all. In fact, it will help to provide social housing. Within the next 15 years -- 2032, in fact -- CMHC is expected to delete all of their funding for social housing, so we need to look at revenue sources to be able to continue to provide social housing and this is one method.

Question 87-18(2): Provision Of RCMP Staff Housing Units
Oral Questions

Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

Is the Minister proposing that this plan to building RCMP housing is going to be a revenue-generating option for the GNWT? Is the government interested in being a landlord?

Question 87-18(2): Provision Of RCMP Staff Housing Units
Oral Questions

Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Currently, actually, the Housing Corporation does have some market housing. One of the reasons is that within the communities it's hard to find housing for professionals such as teachers, nurses, et cetera, RCMP as well. So yes, it will be a revenue base that we can actually use towards maintaining of our social housing.

Question 87-18(2): Provision Of RCMP Staff Housing Units
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Kam Lake.

Question 87-18(2): Provision Of RCMP Staff Housing Units
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Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My final question would be: what will happen to the existing stock of RCMP housing? I believe it's over a hundred units. That seems like a sufficient amount and I can't image that they all are in a position to be demolished. I'm sure there's some units we might be able to use. Can the Minister update us on what the quality of the stock is and what the plan to dispose of it is? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 87-18(2): Provision Of RCMP Staff Housing Units
Oral Questions

Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Actually, there's only 45 units that the RCMP are interested in negotiating. All of their units, they are not interested in retrofitting them. The Housing Corporation is not interested in taking on their old housing either. So they are going to be trying to sell them into the market community, and if not then they'll negotiate with the Housing Corporation to take them on based on land value only.

Question 87-18(2): Provision Of RCMP Staff Housing Units
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Mackenzie Delta.

Question 88-18(2): Negotiating Self-Government Agreements
Oral Questions

Frederick Blake Jr.

Frederick Blake Jr. Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in follow-up to my Member's statement, as you recall during our election period, I have had a lot of concerns about negotiations, whether its self-government or land claims. Some of these land claims and self-government agreements have gone on for almost 20 years now, with spending in the neighbourhood of $20 million, and then, whether it is a land claim group or the government that is negotiating, they receive that much less. There are some challenges, for example. The reason I know this is eight years ago, these same issues were a challenge at the time, whether it is core principles and objectives or taking over programs at the current level. My question to our honourable Premier is: when can we expect the outstanding land claims negotiations to be completed? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 88-18(2): Negotiating Self-Government Agreements
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Honourable Premier.

Question 88-18(2): Negotiating Self-Government Agreements
Oral Questions

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We have made a commitment to work to negotiate all outstanding land claims in the 18th Assembly. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 88-18(2): Negotiating Self-Government Agreements
Oral Questions

Frederick Blake Jr.

Frederick Blake Jr. Mackenzie Delta

That sounds great. It would be great if we could do that over the next couple of years here. That opens up a lot of our territory to development. But the biggest challenge is to ensure that we do this. I would like to ask the Premier: Will we be changing our negotiating mandate to ensure that we have a common interest to settle both land claims and self-government agreements?

Question 88-18(2): Negotiating Self-Government Agreements
Oral Questions

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

In reviewing some of the reasons for why it has taken so long, and as the Member indicated, in some instances, it has been 20, 25 years of negotiations. We have met with the Aboriginal governments to try to determine the problems, the stumbling blocks that have stopped us from settling these claims a lot earlier than this. We’ve had very good discussions. I think part of it is the mandates that are in place that don't allow us any flexibility. As I have said before, we have met with the federal Minister of Indigenous and Northern Affairs and outlined how we saw us going forward. They are very open to it. The Prime Minister, during the federal election, wrote to us and indicated that their objective is to settle their outstanding land claims in a very facilitated manner. We have all agreed to work together. We have followed up with the federal Minister of Indigenous and Northern Affairs with a letter outlining how we see us moving forward and our officials will be getting together. Right now, we feel very positive about the possibilities.

Question 88-18(2): Negotiating Self-Government Agreements
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Frederick Blake Jr.

Frederick Blake Jr. Mackenzie Delta

My final question here. That really sounds great. In what sort of timeline can we actually see a change in the mandate? Is it six months or is it eight months or two months?

Question 88-18(2): Negotiating Self-Government Agreements
Oral Questions

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

Just as an example, the Gwich'in rolling draft self-government agreement-in-principle is currently being negotiated by the Government of Northwest Territories, the Government of Canada, and the Gwich'in Tribal Council. The Gwich'in Tribal Council have expressed their desire to have the rolling draft completed by the end of March 2016. Both governments are committed to negotiating an agreement that meets everyone's interests as quickly as possible. However, there are several remaining outstanding issues to be resolved. We are going to work very hard to address these outstanding issues so that we could have an AIP in a very timely fashion.

Question 88-18(2): Negotiating Self-Government Agreements
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh.

Question 89-18(2): Addressing Housing Core Need
Oral Questions

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Marsi cho, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in my Member’s statement I talked about some housing problems faced by the elders in my riding. My question for the Minister is: has the Minister written out any sort of plan to address housing problems as identified in the 2009 Housing Needs Survey. Thank you.

Question 89-18(2): Addressing Housing Core Need
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Minister responsible for the NWT Housing Corporation.

Question 89-18(2): Addressing Housing Core Need
Oral Questions

Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 2009 is seven years past. It is a little bit outdated. In April, the NWT Housing Corporation is putting out a new survey to all LHOs, all community band leaders, all people in housing to be able to assess what they think is the best options and then we will be developing a plan from that information that we gather. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 89-18(2): Addressing Housing Core Need
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Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

That’s rather disappointing. The 2009 Housing Needs Survey is the last survey that was completed by the Housing Corporation and has all of the core needs, by community, laid out in there. Is the Minister actually contemplating doing something different? Changing the way we collect information and then, by going directly to the people, finding out what it is they want? I think the survey does that. Is the Minister actually contemplating a different way of capturing core needs in the NWT?

Question 89-18(2): Addressing Housing Core Need
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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Yes. I correct myself actually. The 2009 survey is 17 years old. This government has made a priority on transparency and letting the public be as engaged as possible in decision-making. To be able to do that, asking the public what they think is best, and the program users, is what I feel is most appropriate at this time.

Question 89-18(2): Addressing Housing Core Need
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Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Yes, I guess that would be seven years.

---Laughter

In any event, I don't think that it has changed that much, so the question for the Minister is: is the Minister aware that the largest proportion of core need is adequacy?

Question 89-18(2): Addressing Housing Core Need
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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

I do have a flu, so I do apologize. It is actually seven years. My brain is a little bit foggy. Yes, currently it does show that adequacy is the current biggest problem within the regions. But in order to maintain our priorities within this 18th Legislative Assembly, I do think that it is appropriate to go to the communities again and ask them. Before I develop a plan, I want to be as up-to-date and current as I can with the information.

Question 89-18(2): Addressing Housing Core Need
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh.

Question 89-18(2): Addressing Housing Core Need
Oral Questions

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I indicated the problems we are having currently with having people become eligible for housing programs, largely because there are wrong programs out there and in some cases because individuals are just clearly not eligible. They have a core need, but they don't have all the right statistics to fit into the programs the Housing Corporation is currently offering. It is a huge issue. I would like to ask the Minister if they are going to look at programs that will directly address the housing needs in the NWT. Currently, the programs do not address the needs. The core need is not going down by any significant amount. I want to ask that question again. Will the Minister introduce programs that are appropriate to address core needs in the NWT? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 89-18(2): Addressing Housing Core Need
Oral Questions

Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Yes. As stated, I do realize that many of the programs are old and many of them might not be appropriate at this time. I adhere to the priority of the 18th Legislative Assembly that says we need to be transparent, and within doing that, then, I believe that the best philosophy is to ask the community and to develop a plan based on what the communities and the people that use the programs say they need.

Question 89-18(2): Addressing Housing Core Need
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Hay River North.

Question 90-18(2): Fiscal Benefits From Highway Construction
Oral Questions

R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, earlier our Minister of Transportation made a statement about three of the major corridors that this government often speaks of. The government talks about investing in these highways, but what that really means is the people of the Northwest Territories investing in the highways. We are asking the residents of the NWT to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on these highways. I’d like to know what are the direct fiscal benefits that our residents are going to see from these investments? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 90-18(2): Fiscal Benefits From Highway Construction
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Minister of Transportation.

Question 90-18(2): Fiscal Benefits From Highway Construction
Oral Questions

Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Increasing the number of communities connected to the public highway system is a key objective of expanding the transportation system. Transportation of goods and materials by the roads continues to be the most cost-effective way to deliver essential services to the communities. Construction of the Mackenzie Valley Highway and Tlicho all-weather road will add several communities to the highway system and greatly increase the window of access provided by winter roads to many other communities. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 90-18(2): Fiscal Benefits From Highway Construction
Oral Questions

R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

The other part of this equation that we always hear is that it's going to benefit industry and bring industry to the Northwest Territories. What other benefits to the industry can we expect to see from these roads?

Question 90-18(2): Fiscal Benefits From Highway Construction
Oral Questions

Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

Replacing existing winter roads will help us adapt to the pressure of climate change, which is reducing the window of access into more of these remote communities. Our winters are getting shorter and increasingly, warmer weather means that we cannot open up our winter roads as usual, as we've seen this year. This winter, our roads were late in opening resulting in an increased cost to our communities, delays in resupply, and decreased access to both residents and businesses.

Question 90-18(2): Fiscal Benefits From Highway Construction
Oral Questions

R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Are there any of the benefits that the Minister would like to elaborate on?

---Laughter

Question 90-18(2): Fiscal Benefits From Highway Construction
Oral Questions

Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

As I've said in this House before, the Department of Transportation is pursuing funding from the New Building Canada Plan to fund these new projects. With access to this funding, it will bring economic benefits to all Northerners and communities, and help us tackle the climate change issue and other issues facing the remote and small communities.

Question 90-18(2): Fiscal Benefits From Highway Construction
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Hay River North.

Question 90-18(2): Fiscal Benefits From Highway Construction
Oral Questions

R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just wanted to make sure got four questions in.

---Laughter

Finally, I'd just like to ask the Minister: how does the department intend to pay for all of these highways? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 90-18(2): Fiscal Benefits From Highway Construction
Oral Questions

Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

The department has a number of asks into the Federal Government through the Building Canada Infrastructure Projects. One of them is the P3 Project Plan through the FPT process for the Whati Highway. We have the Mackenzie Valley Highway, which is through the New Building Canada Plan Fund as well, and we also have the bundle three project through the FPT process with the federal government.

Question 90-18(2): Fiscal Benefits From Highway Construction
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Yellowknife Centre.

Question 91-18(2): Junior Kindergarten Implementation Plan
Oral Questions

Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. My questions are for the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment. Yesterday, the Minister give us an update on the Junior Kindergarten Program, and the update seems to turn on a lot more of the kind of consultation that was done for the report itself. My first question is: what more is there to learn about junior kindergarten in order to implement it? Thank you, Mr. Speaker

Question 91-18(2): Junior Kindergarten Implementation Plan
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Minister of Education, Culture and Employment.

Question 91-18(2): Junior Kindergarten Implementation Plan
Oral Questions

Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There's many areas that we need to still go out and consult on. As Members are aware, the 17th Legislative Assembly, the government at the time, did put a pause on the program to ensure the rollout was adequate and that we did get engagement and consultation from all the Members. A comprehensive report was done. We took the eight recommendations out of the comprehensive report with the main one focusing on engaging our stakeholders, which are daycares, Aboriginal Head Start, parents, elders, community leaders, and not only that, but also finding out what is in the communities that can help them implement junior kindergarten a little bit better in terms of resources, the strengths that they have, and the makeup of the community. In those engagements, we will also go to the regional centers, which junior kindergarten wasn't part of, as well as here in Hay River. Part of that other stakeholder group is if the daycare centres and home daycares are getting as much information as we can so that when we do look at junior kindergarten, we can provide that program to the best of its ability meeting the needs of the child and the needs of the community. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 91-18(2): Junior Kindergarten Implementation Plan
Oral Questions

Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Thanks to the Minister for that answer, but my question remains. Between the information that's available in the junior kindergarten report and the feasibility study on universal daycare, what information does the department not already have to proceed with implementation?

Question 91-18(2): Junior Kindergarten Implementation Plan
Oral Questions

Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

I did mention a few of the areas that we're looking into. Other areas, we're going to be looking at making the communication strategy on getting junior kindergarten communities a funding model, which was a big issue in the last government when junior kindergarten was first pushed out. We're looking at training our Early Childhood Development Officers plus the wage subsidy, and we want to get out there and do it right this time around and make sure that all communities do have input into the Junior Kindergarten Program and rolled out. It was a recommendation from the technical report that was brought forward. The feasibility study also gave us some really good reviews and said that we do need to continue with junior kindergarten, and we did get a lot of good feedback in that technical report.

Question 91-18(2): Junior Kindergarten Implementation Plan
Oral Questions

Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Thank you to the Minister for his answer. Could the Minister please tell us what the timing is for implementing junior kindergarten?

Question 91-18(2): Junior Kindergarten Implementation Plan
Oral Questions

Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

As mentioned, over the next few months we're going to get out to the communities, engage them. We are new into this government and there are a lot of priorities within this department. We're looking at graduation rates, we're looking at post-secondary, and early childhood is one of them as well. We're going to try to get out there and try to get our staff into the communities, get that information. Once we have that information in the communities that want to provide junior kindergarten, then we'll look at an implementation date.

Question 91-18(2): Junior Kindergarten Implementation Plan
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Yellowknife Centre.

Question 91-18(2): Junior Kindergarten Implementation Plan
Oral Questions

Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thanks to the Minister. My last question is whether the money is secure to continue the implementation of junior kindergarten in the next fiscal year. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 91-18(2): Junior Kindergarten Implementation Plan
Oral Questions

Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

In this last fiscal year, we did have some communities that had the option of moving forward in junior kindergarten. We are in the process of going through our budgets for 2016-2017 coming up after we go through the interim appropriations here, and at that time, we'll look at where we can get the dollars to continue to implement junior kindergarten. But there is a process, and right now, we're going to have to wait until we go through that 2016-2017 budget to see where we can continue to provide all early childhood programs.

Question 91-18(2): Junior Kindergarten Implementation Plan
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Deh Cho.

Question 92-18(2): Addressing The Issue Of Vacant Housing On Hay River Reserve
Oral Questions

Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the K’atl’odeeche First Nation is one of several groups that have outstanding lands and governance matters that have yet to be resolved, so my questions are to the Premier again, because of the matter of housing on the Hay River Reserve. Fourteen years ago, there were a couple of housing units that were built, and unfortunately, nothing's been done to try to house them. We have housing concerns throughout the communities. My question is to the Premier. What has the GNWT done in the past and what is it doing now to address the issue of vacant housing on the Hay River Reserve? Masi.

Question 92-18(2): Addressing The Issue Of Vacant Housing On Hay River Reserve
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Honourable Premier.

Question 92-18(2): Addressing The Issue Of Vacant Housing On Hay River Reserve
Oral Questions

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I am pleased to say that we have seen the light.

---Laughter

The Government of Canada, the Government of Northwest Territories and the K'atl'odeeche First Nation are working together to resolve this long and outstanding housing issue on the Hay River Reserve. The way forward, as explained yesterday, is that there is still work to be done. A phase one environmental assessment was completed on the ten lots on the Hay River Reserve. A consultant has recommended that a phase two assessment will need to be completed in the summertime. In addition, the K'atl'odeeche Band is required to conduct the environmental remediation, as per a previous agreement, and we understand the federal government will not issue the federal leases required until remediation has occurred. The NWT Housing Corporation is currently in discussions with the K'atl'odeeche First Nation to ensure their commitment to complete their remediation so that the units can be placed back into service. Once the federal leases are ratified, the NWT Housing Corporation will provide those 10 houses to residents under the public housing program. Once the processes have been completed for 10 units, the NWT Housing Corporation will seek federal leases for the other six lots so that the units can be utilized for NWT Housing Corporation home ownership programs. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 92-18(2): Addressing The Issue Of Vacant Housing On Hay River Reserve
Oral Questions

Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

I'd like to thank the honourable Premier for his reply. It's very encouraging actually seeing progress being made, but in his reply, I got lost somewhere in terms of the land leases. Such is the system that we have, where sometimes, simple matters get lost in the bureaucracy. What we are seeing now is an effort by this government to try to decentralize some of the decision-making in these communities, and so in this particular case, negotiations could be fast-tracked, that these houses become available as soon as possible to make them available to constituents. We have done it. We have established a health cabin on the reserve, so there is precedent. My question to the Premier again is: does the GNWT support having the funding for the housing on the Hay River Reserve go directly to KFN, rather than being flowed through the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation, if that is their desire?

Question 92-18(2): Addressing The Issue Of Vacant Housing On Hay River Reserve
Oral Questions

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

That is something that we would negotiate with the K'atl'odeeche First Nation. There are two different aspects of it: one is who determines who goes into the houses; and secondly, who will do the maintenance. We would need a maintenance agreement and also, we would need an agreement with the K’atl’odeeche First Nation as to how the units would be allocated.

Question 92-18(2): Addressing The Issue Of Vacant Housing On Hay River Reserve
Oral Questions

Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

The simple question amounts to: When can the people of the K’atl’odeeche First Nation expect to see these houses become occupied by band members?

Question 92-18(2): Addressing The Issue Of Vacant Housing On Hay River Reserve
Oral Questions

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

Being a very optimistic person, I expect that the environmental remediation will be completed this summer. As soon as it's completed, the federal government will issue the required leases and we can have people moving into the houses.

Question 92-18(2): Addressing The Issue Of Vacant Housing On Hay River Reserve
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Nahendeh.

Question 93-18(2): Northwest Territories Power Corporation Apprenticeship Program
Oral Questions

Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I will be asking questions to the Minister responsible for the NWT Power Corporation. As we all know the importance of developing young people in the work force, can the Minister please explain how the Power Corporation implements their apprenticeship program across the NWT? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 93-18(2): Northwest Territories Power Corporation Apprenticeship Program
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Minister responsible for NWT Power Corporation.

Question 93-18(2): Northwest Territories Power Corporation Apprenticeship Program
Oral Questions

Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, as the corporation's needs dictate, we hire apprentices with the objective to fill as many permanent positions with Northerners. Prior to incumbents retiring or leaving, we set employment competitions for apprentices in their specific trade and in the specific community in which the need arises. Thank you.

Question 93-18(2): Northwest Territories Power Corporation Apprenticeship Program
Oral Questions

Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

I thank the Minister for his answer. Can the Minister confirm that the Power Corporation’s practice of implementing their apprenticeship program is similar to other government departments across the NWT?

Question 93-18(2): Northwest Territories Power Corporation Apprenticeship Program
Oral Questions

Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

Yes, I can advise that we follow the GNWT-developed program for our apprentices. Our apprentices are all registered with the GNWT ECE, and we follow their hours and schooling procedures.

Question 93-18(2): Northwest Territories Power Corporation Apprenticeship Program
Oral Questions

Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

I guess I'm going to have to reword my question. When I talk to the Minister about apprenticeship and the process, it is about the grades and how they develop the application for these students or young people to apply for jobs. Does the Minister know if his department works consistently with the Government of the Northwest Territories' other departments, and how they implement apprenticeship programs.

Question 93-18(2): Northwest Territories Power Corporation Apprenticeship Program
Oral Questions

Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

I understand that we have a long-term program of developing apprentices, and I assume we work consistently with other government departments. I don't have any direct evidence of that, but I assume that to be the case.

Question 93-18(2): Northwest Territories Power Corporation Apprenticeship Program
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Nahendeh.

Question 93-18(2): Northwest Territories Power Corporation Apprenticeship Program
Oral Questions

Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Actually, I think the department should maybe get together and look at how they actually implement their apprenticeship programs, but I will go on to my next question. Can the Minister please tell the House how many northern apprenticeships are employed by the Power Corporation, and how many successful candidates are employed? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 93-18(2): Northwest Territories Power Corporation Apprenticeship Program
Oral Questions

Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

I can advise that currently there are seven apprentices at the Power Corporation. Those seven are already full-time employees and they will be offered permanent employment upon the successful completion of their apprenticeships. We currently have four journeyman employees that have completed their apprenticeships through the Power Corporation.

Question 93-18(2): Northwest Territories Power Corporation Apprenticeship Program
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Frame Lake.

Question 94-18(2): First Ministers’ Meeting In Vancouver, Bc
Oral Questions

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Yesterday, the Premier made a statement about a First Ministers’ meeting that is happening in Vancouver. This is an important meeting that he is going to. It's the first time in six years that the First Ministers have actually gotten together, and I'm sure I can say on behalf of all the MLAs that we're really glad that he is going and it's an important meeting. I'm wondering if he can tell the House, though, how he will be guided by the recently amended and adopted the Mandate of the Government of the Northwest Territories 2016-2019. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

Question 94-18(2): First Ministers’ Meeting In Vancouver, Bc
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Honourable Premier.

Question 94-18(2): First Ministers’ Meeting In Vancouver, Bc
Oral Questions

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I see the mandate that has been developed as our way forward and it will be incorporated into all of the mandate letters of all of the Ministers. This will guide all of our discussions going forward. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 94-18(2): First Ministers’ Meeting In Vancouver, Bc
Oral Questions

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

I thank the Premier for his response. I guess I was asking the question, though, in the context of this First Ministers’ meeting in Vancouver that he is going down to. I am wondering if he has any specific asks or requests that he is going to be making at that meeting, and if he could share those with the House.

Question 94-18(2): First Ministers’ Meeting In Vancouver, Bc
Oral Questions

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

As the Members know, the Premiers from all the provinces and territories in Canada will be there, as well as the Prime Minister of Canada. The first day will be a meeting with the leaders of three national Aboriginal organizations in Canada, and so those discussions will be primarily on climate change and the economy. The second day will be a First Ministers’ meeting between the Prime Minister and the 13 Premiers of all of the provinces and territories. What I will be talking about is how climate change is affecting us in the Northwest Territories. We’ll be talking on a number of issues and how we can all work together to deal with the issue. There are a number of important issues will be discussed.

All of the provinces and territories are working on a Vancouver declaration, which will be in follow-up to a Quebec declaration that was discussed and issued earlier in the summer. I believe it was July or September. There was one meeting in Toronto of all the Premiers, and there was another meeting in Quebec City. Those are the discussions that will be going forward. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 94-18(2): First Ministers’ Meeting In Vancouver, Bc
Oral Questions

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

I thank the Premier again for his response. It sounds like climate change is going to be a major theme at this First Ministers’ conference. I wonder if the Premier could make a commitment to report back to the Regular Members about what happens that the important meeting, and perhaps table a report in the House.

Question 94-18(2): First Ministers’ Meeting In Vancouver, Bc
Oral Questions

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

As I indicated to the Standing Committee on Priorities and Planning, I will be pleased to report back. Some of the discussions are embargoed and are on a confidential basis, but I have no problem sharing it with the standing committee on that basis.

Question 94-18(2): First Ministers’ Meeting In Vancouver, Bc
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Member for Frame Lake.

Question 94-18(2): First Ministers’ Meeting In Vancouver, Bc
Oral Questions

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker, and I want to thank the Premier for that commitment. I look forward to the report. In his statement yesterday, the Premier said the Government of the Northwest Territories is also in the process of developing a strategy to ensure that the federal government understands territorial priorities and sets the groundwork for active partnerships in areas of common interest. The key phrase in this is “developing a strategy.” I’m wondering if the Premier would make the commitment to consult with the Regular Members as he develops this strategy, to help better convey what our priorities are to the federal government. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 94-18(2): First Ministers’ Meeting In Vancouver, Bc
Oral Questions

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

In the 17th Assembly, we developed a federal engagement strategy because we felt it was more effective and efficient if we had a very well-coordinated and limited number of asks, and I'm pleased to say that we were very successful in being able to advance our priorities with the federal government. We did seek input from the standing committee, and would be pleased to do that again.

Question 94-18(2): First Ministers’ Meeting In Vancouver, Bc
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Hay River North.

Question 95-18(2): Taltson Hydroelectric Southern Expansion
Oral Questions

R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Further to my Member's statement from earlier today, I address these questions to the Minister responsible for the Power Corporation. It's been three years since the NT Energy Power System Plan and the NWT Energy Action Plan called for a pre-feasibility study of the Taltson Southern Expansion, and my questions are related to that. I'd like to know where we are on that. That was three years ago, we should be three years in. I would like to ask: Does the government know what the costs are to upgrade the hydro facility to make a southern expansion economically feasible? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 95-18(2): Taltson Hydroelectric Southern Expansion
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Minister responsible for NWT Power Corporation.

Question 95-18(2): Taltson Hydroelectric Southern Expansion
Oral Questions

Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Power Corporation is investigating with SaskPower the potential of interconnection from Taltson to Uranium City. What's changed in the last period of time, in the last year in fact, is that Saskatchewan now is committed to reach 50 per cent renewable energy mixed by 2030. That being the case, they will need 1100 megawatts of generation. This has opened an opportunity for us and we are investigating that with SaskPower. Thank you.

Question 95-18(2): Taltson Hydroelectric Southern Expansion
Oral Questions

R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

I was wondering if the Minister had actual numbers as to the cost of upgrading the Taltson facility.

Question 95-18(2): Taltson Hydroelectric Southern Expansion
Oral Questions

Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

It depends, to some degree, on the scope of the project. There could be up to 200 megawatts from the Taltson system, which would supply about 20 per cent of the needs of Saskatchewan. I understand that the likely cost of the project would probably be over $500 million. Perhaps between that and a billion dollars.

Question 95-18(2): Taltson Hydroelectric Southern Expansion
Oral Questions

R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

This will be my final question. I just want to know, considering that is a pretty hefty price tag, has the government and will the government approach the federal government to seek funds to help with this expansion?

Question 95-18(2): Taltson Hydroelectric Southern Expansion
Oral Questions

Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

Yes, of course. The exact cost is not yet known at this time and we are contemplating a situation in which Saskatchewan would be paying a considerable portion of this. This would seem to be the type of project that the federal government would be interested in, and I think, if we move ahead further with Saskatchewan, that likely we will be approaching the federal government. Thank you.

Question 95-18(2): Taltson Hydroelectric Southern Expansion
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Kam Lake.

Question 96-18(2): Provision Of RCMP Staff Housing Units
Oral Questions

Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have further questions for the Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation. We've heard that these new RCMP units will be a source of revenue. With the Department of Justice paying 70 per cent of the costs, the majority share of the agreement we have with the federal government, how exactly will this generate revenue? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 96-18(2): Provision Of RCMP Staff Housing Units
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Minister of NWT Housing Corporation.

Question 96-18(2): Provision Of RCMP Staff Housing Units
Oral Questions

Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Department of Justice actually pays 70 per cent for the policing services. The RCMP will be paying rent for the units. Thank you.

Question 96-18(2): Provision Of RCMP Staff Housing Units
Oral Questions

Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

Just to repeat, the Minister can confirm that the RCMP will pay 100 per cent of the costs for renting those units?

Question 96-18(2): Provision Of RCMP Staff Housing Units
Oral Questions

Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

The RCMP will pay 100 per cent of the assessed rent within each community.

Question 96-18(2): Provision Of RCMP Staff Housing Units
Oral Questions

Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

Last question. Could the Minister explain exactly what she means by "assessed rent" so that the public could understand, please?

Question 96-18(2): Provision Of RCMP Staff Housing Units
Oral Questions

Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

The assessed rent will be market rent within each community.

Question 96-18(2): Provision Of RCMP Staff Housing Units
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Time for oral questions has expired. Item 9, written questions. Item 10, returns to written questions. Item 11, replies to Commissioner's Opening Address. Item 12, petitions. Item 13, reports of committees on the review of bills. Item 14, tabling of documents. Minister of Finance.

Tabled Document 20-18(2): Northwest Territories Revenue Options, February 2016
Tabling of Documents

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I wish to table the following document entitled “Northwest Territories Revenue Options, February 2016.” Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Tabled Document 20-18(2): Northwest Territories Revenue Options, February 2016
Tabling of Documents

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Tabling of documents. Minister responsible for NWT Power Corporation.

Tabled Document 22-18(2): 2015 Annual Report, Northwest Territories Hydro Corporation
Tabling of Documents

Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wish to table the following two documents entitled “2015 Annual Report, Northwest Territories Power Corporation” and “2015 Annual Report, Northwest Territories Hydro Corporation”. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Tabled Document 22-18(2): 2015 Annual Report, Northwest Territories Hydro Corporation
Tabling of Documents

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Tabling of documents. Item 15, notices of motion. Member for Yellowknife Centre.

Motion 13-18(2): Northwest Territories Disability Action Plan
Notices of Motion

Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I give notice that on Thursday, March 3, 2016, I will move the following motion: Now therefore I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Deh Cho, that the Government of Northwest Territories work with the NWT Disabilities Council and other allies in the disability community to develop a five-year action plan that addresses the needs of the disability community, including measurable outcomes and ongoing evaluation; and further that the government respond to this motion by the end of June 2016 with a proposed timeline for the development of that described action plan. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Motion 13-18(2): Northwest Territories Disability Action Plan
Notices of Motion

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Notices of motion. Member for Yellowknife Centre.

Motion 14-18(2): Extended Adjournment Of The House To May 31, 2016
Notices of Motion

Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I give notice that on Thursday, March 3, 2016, I will move the following motion: Now therefore I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Great Slave, that notwithstanding Rule 4, when this House adjourns on March 3, 2016, it shall be adjourned until Wednesday, May 31, 2106; and further that at any time prior to May 31, 2016, if the Speaker is satisfied, after consultation with the Executive Council and Members of the Legislative Assembly, that the public interest requires that the House should meet at an earlier time during the adjournment, the Speaker may give notice and thereupon the House shall meet at the time stated in such notice and shall transact its business as it has been duly adjourned to that time. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

Motion 14-18(2): Extended Adjournment Of The House To May 31, 2016
Notices of Motion

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Notices of motion. Item 16, notices of motion for first reading of bills. Item 17, motions. Item 18, first reading of bills. Item 19, second reading of bills. Item 20, consideration in Committee of the Whole of bills and other matters: Tabled Document 2-18(2), Interim Estimates, 2016-2017, with the Member for Hay River North in the chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I now call the Committee of the Whole to order. What is the wish of the committee? Mr. Beaulieu.

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Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the committee wishes to consider Tabled Document 2-18(2), Interim Estimates, 2016-2017.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. Does the committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

We will take a short recess and continue with the first item.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

I call Committee of the Whole back to order. Committee, we have agreed to consider Tabled Document 2-18(2), Interim Estimates, 2016-2017. Does the Finance Minister have any opening remarks? Minister McLeod.

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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Yes, I do, Mr. Chair. The interim estimates is requesting appropriation authority of $518 million in operations expenditures for the interim period of April 1 to June 30, 2016. These interim estimates provide the necessary resources for the government to operate in the first three months of the 2016-2017 fiscal year. The 2016-2017 Main Estimates, or full budget, will be presented during the May/June sitting of the Legislative Assembly, at which these interim estimates would be superseded. Departments are required to develop their 2016-2017 interim estimates based on a status quo 2015-2016 budget, only identifying the appropriations required to get through the interim period. I will stress that this does not include any new funding that hasn't been approved by the Legislative Assembly. All funding adjustments would be approved through the business planning and main estimates process.

The $518 million represents 31 per cent of total expenditures included in the 2015-2016 Main Estimates, compared to 30 per cent of total expenditures, which was approved during the last interim appropriation in 2012-2013. This exceeds one quarter of the 2015-2016 Main Estimates budget due to operation requirements that require that sufficient funding is to be in place to ensure certain contracts can be committed for the full year as required by the Financial Administration Act. I understand that committee has concerns regarding the ongoing funding for the Community Access Program under the Department of Transportation. Minister Schumann and myself are prepared to speak to this issue and have a solution to address the committee's concerns. That concludes my opening remarks.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister McLeod. Does the Minister of Finance wish to bring any witnesses into the House?

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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Yes, I would, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Sergeant-at-Arms, please escort the witnesses into the Chamber. Thank you. Minister McLeod, would you please introduce your witnesses.

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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, to my left I have Mr. Mike Aumond, who is the secretary to the Financial Management Board and deputy minister of finance. To my right, I have Mr. Sandy Kalgutkar who is the deputy secretary to the Financial Management Board.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister McLeod. Does the committee agree that we begin with general comments? Is it the wish of the committee that we proceed directly to the detailed sections?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

We will begin the review with the 2016-2017 interim estimates, operations expenditures. Department, Legislative Assembly. Appropriation authority required, $5,353,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Department, Aboriginal Affairs and Intergovernmental Relations. Appropriation authority required, $2,493,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Department, Education, Culture and Employment. Appropriation authority required, $101,111,000. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Earlier we heard from the Minister’s opening remarks that this is a status quo arrangement for the first quarter of 2016-2017. I just want to ask, for ECE, for where income security programs are located. The Minister also mentioned that, on average, the first quarter spending for each of the departments is about 31 per cent, but can the Minister tell me whether income security is at that level or if there is any variance there. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Minister McLeod.

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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, for that I would like to go to Minister of Education, Culture and Employment.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister McLeod. Minister Moses.

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Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The money that the department is asking for, the $101.1 million to cover the operational expense requirements for the first three months of the fiscal year April 1, 2016, to June 30, 2016, was based on budget amounts from the 2015-2016 Main Estimates, which was $309,786,000, plus the approved fiscal year 2016-2017 amounts from Supplementary Appropriations 1 and 2. Overall, ECE's interim appropriation of $101.1 million is approximately 33 per cent of the 2015-16 base appropriations, including the interim appropriation as forced growth associated with the income assistance that the Member is asking about. In addition, the interim appropriation also increases adjustments to Student Financial Assistance Programs for student financial grant increases. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister Moses. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Mr. Chair, I appreciate the Minister's response. Can he provide, then, some assurance that there is really no change in the income assistance and SFA programs in the first quarter for 2016-2017 as compared to the previous year? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Minister McLeod. Mr. Aumond.

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Aumond

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The amounts for those two include what was approved in the Main Estimates for 2016-2017 and also in consideration of that proportional amount that would have been included in the supplementary estimates for those two items for the 2015-2016 year. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Aumond. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Mr. Chair, I’m not sure I am getting my question across the best way I can then, perhaps. For income assistance, student financial assistance, what are the proportions of the total spending that we are looking at in the first quarter? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Mr. Kalgutkar.

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Kalgutkar

Thank you, Mr. Chair. For the total Income Security Program, which had a 2015-2016 budget of $43 million, for the interim period we are looking for $9 million or about 20 per cent of that. That is broken down into two main areas: income assistance, which is about $29 million for 2015-2016, and for the interim period, we are asking about $7.2 million, which is about 25 per cent of that budget; and for SFA, it is about less than 13 per cent of that 2015-2016 budget. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. That is helpful. I guess now we are getting somewhere. We are talking about maybe 20 per cent of the income security envelope being spent in the first quarter. Earlier, in the Minister's statement, he mentioned that we are looking at about 31 per cent on average. Why are we at 20 per cent for income security as opposed to 31 per cent throughout the rest of the departments on average? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Mr. Aumond.

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Aumond

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The Member is correct. It is about 31 per cent on average across government. There may be programs where you may require less or more, depending on the nature of the program. In regards to income support in the first quarter of the year, the demand for income support, given that those non-winter months are not as much as you would see if you were looking at the third quarter, which would be more than the 30 per cent, because of the amounts provided for heat, for example for that income support component. So that is not required for the first quarter. Therefore, the department is not asking for that appropriation at this time. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Aumond. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Now that is starting to make some sense for me. Finally, to close it off then, we are not looking at any substantive change between what we spent in 2015-2016 in the first quarter for income assistance and student financial assistance as opposed to what is being proposed in 2016-2017. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Minister McLeod.

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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The Member is correct.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. O'Reilly. Are there further comments or questions? Seeing none, we will proceed with the item. Department, Education, Culture, and Employment. Appropriation authority required, $101,111,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Department, Environment and Natural Resources. Appropriation authority required, $41,535,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Department, Executive. Appropriation authority required, $2,774,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Department, Finance. Appropriation authority required, $48,925,000.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Department, Health and Social Services. Appropriation authority required, $117,209,000. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Again, it is a question of consistency in spending in the first quarter. I am just wondering if the witnesses can tell me what is happening with ambulatory care services and what portion we are looking at spending in the first quarter of 2016-2017. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Minister Abernethy.

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Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, the interim appropriation is calculated based on when we actually expect to spend the money. Historically, the department's interim appropriations have been approximately one quarter of what the total budget is expected to be from the upcoming year, as a significant amount of the department’s funding flows to the health and social services authorities through regular monthly cash flows, something that we have to do. However, the budget for out-of-territory hospitals sit in the ambulatory care service item line, the line the Member is talking about. We don't actually need to disburse funds for the out-of-territory hospitals until we actually get invoices from the provinces and territories, and these payments are made directly by the department rather than by the individual authorities, and it doesn't come out of the funding that goes to the authorities.

Accordingly, the department delayed appropriating most of the budget for ambulatory care until such time as we expect to spend the money and get the invoices from the out-of-territory services in the provinces and the other territories. In past years, we have not actually needed these funds for the first three months of the year. We usually spend these dollars later in the year, so we're comfortable that the allocation in ambulatory care services is going to meet the needs of our residents and our services here in the Northwest Territories.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister Abernethy. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair, and I appreciate the Minister's answer, and I'm satisfied with that. Thanks.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Further comments or questions on this detail? Department, Health and Social Services. Appropriation authority required, $117,209,000.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

We turn to page four now. Department, Human Resources. Appropriation authority required, $6,450,000.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Department, Industry, Tourism and Investment. Appropriation authority required, $25,757,000.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Department, Justice. Appropriation authority required, $66,685,000. Mr. Testart.

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Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I guess this is in relation to some questions I asked earlier in the House, but under the line item for policing services, does that include rent for RCMP or housing costs for RCMP? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Testart. Minister McLeod.

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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, my understanding is what's included in here is our contract with the RCMP, and rent may be included in that, but we'd have to confirm that. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister McLeod. Mr. Testart.

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Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'm satisfied if it can be confirmed with me outside of the Chamber. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Testart. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. In the Department of Justice interim appropriation, I believe there is continued funding for programs related to family violence, and I'm just wondering if the witnesses can confirm that there is indeed funding for the first quarter for the New Day Program that's run out of the Tree of Peace. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Minister McLeod.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, I'd like to refer that to the Minister of Justice, Mr. Sebert.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister McLeod. Minister Sebert.

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Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

Thank you. The Members will know that this is a pilot project and as part of the contract, the Tree of Peace was responsible for documenting the program. The funding, as I understand it, is only established until the end of the year 2016.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister Sebert. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I presume that's December 31, 2016, then, just end of year. We're talking about a bunch of different years here, so I just want to nail down that end date for this particular program. Thanks.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Minister Sebert.

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Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

My understanding is that the funding is scheduled to end at the end of the 2016 calendar year at which time I assume the project would be evaluated.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister Sebert. Mr. O'Reilly. Nothing further? Further comments or questions? Seeing nothing, we will continue with the review. Department, Justice. Appropriation authority required, $66,685,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Department, Lands. Appropriation authority required, $7,579,000. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. I just wanted to follow up on a couple of areas here that I've raised in the House around the Liabilities and Financial Assurances Division that's located in the Department of Lands. I just want to get some assurance from the Minister that there is funding in the first quarter of 2016-2017 to continue the current staff complement in that division. Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Minister McLeod.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The Member's correct. There is funding to keep the current staff complement. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister McLeod. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. That's good to hear, and I thank the Minister for his response. I just want to confirm that there's also funding in the first quarter for work to be done on the guidelines of the Minister mentioned in the House, if that wasn’t earlier this week it was last week. I believe that the department is preparing some guidelines. Is there funding in the first quarter for some work on the guidelines? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Minister McLeod?

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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The Member's correct again. There is funding allocated for that. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. I'm just wondering who the department intends to engage with in developing those guidelines. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Minister McLeod.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Yeah, thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, we will engage with Queen's University, who are helping us do the work on the guidelines. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister McLeod. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thanks to the Minister for that response. Presumably, though, we're looking at engaging folks beyond just the university. We're talking, presumably, the mining industry, environmental organizations, Aboriginal governments, the co-management bodies. All of those would be part of consultations that will take place regarding these guidelines as well. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Minister McLeod.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, I will confirm our level of engagement and I will share that with the Members to give them surety that we will do our due diligence. Thank you, Mr. Chair,

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister McLeod. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, and I want to thank the Minister for his response and I would encourage the department that when they do reach out to talk to the mineral industry about these guidelines that they be inclusive and include other interests including Aboriginal governments, environmental organizations, and so on. Thank you. I look forward to getting the information from the Minister.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Are there any other further comments or questions on this section? Seeing none, we will continue the review. Department: Lands. Appropriation authority required, $7,579,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Continuing on. Department, Municipal and Community Affairs. Appropriation authority required, $34,924,000.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Department, Public Works and Service. Appropriation authority required, $30,966,000. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. There's a lot of eager beavers here today.

---Laughter

While we're on this department, I just want to ask about the first quarter funding for energy solutions, which I believe also includes Arctic Energy Alliance and our own work as a government on energy conservation, energy efficiencies, and so on. I'm just wondering what rough portion we're looking at spending in the first quarter of 2016-2017. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Minister McLeod.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. For the interim, PWS has identified $2,920,000 to be spent.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Mr. O'Reilly.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I guess what I'm trying to sort out here is that we're not looking at making any cuts to energy conservation, energy efficiency programs that are offered through Arctic Energy Alliance or even our own internal programs for energy efficiency within the government in the first quarter. I just want to get that assurance from the Minister. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Minister McLeod.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, for the Arctic Energy Alliance I think there's $720,000 in grants and contributions.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister McLeod. Mr. O'Reilly.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

I appreciate the response from the Minister. I'm not sure I got an answer, though. I guess I'm seeking some assurance that this is a business-as-usual interim appropriation for the first quarter, and that it doesn't reflect any cuts or changes to programs that are offered through Arctic Energy Alliance or energy conservation initiatives that we would do ourselves in-house. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Minister McLeod.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, this interim budget is business as usual. We have the process of the business planning review and the main estimates budget that's going to be tabled in May/June. But for the exercise we're going through today it is business as usual. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister McLeod. Mr. O'Reilly.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair, and I appreciate the assurance then that the Minster has provided, that there's no changes or cuts that are being proposed to energy efficiency and conservation programs from the department. Maybe just one general comment if I may, that next time we have interim appropriations, which may not be for another four years, past my life, or all of our collective lives, that if there are significant variations that fall below the 25 per cent, it would be helpful to get those explanations provided to committee. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Your comment is noted. Any further questions or comments on this section? Seeing none, we will continue with the review. Department: Public Works and Services. Appropriation authority required, $30,966,000.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Page five. Department, Transportation. Appropriation authority required, $26,717,000.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Mr. Blake.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Frederick Blake Jr.

Frederick Blake Jr. Mackenzie Delta

Nice try.

---Laughter

Thank you, Mr. Chair. In the Minister's opening comments, he highlighted some concerns about the Community Access Program under the department. I don't see any funds allocated. I know the department feels, or the Minister feels, that there's no projects going ahead in the first three months, but there are actually projects that communities want to do. A number of the communities don't have the funds available to take care of these costs. To take on a project for $60,000 or $80,000 and bear the cost over the first three months, it's challenging for communities. The majority of our small communities throughout the Territories depend on this Community Access Program, and we want to ensure that this funding is available for small communities. It creates a lot of small, short-term employment for a lot of our constituents throughout the territory and I just want to ensure that we have funding available to create those employment opportunities. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Blake. Minister McLeod, would you like to respond?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Yes, thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, with respect to Department of Transportation to ensure financial and technical assistance can be provided to rural and remote communities for any planned construction and maintenance of community access roads during the interim period, $250,000 will be transferred from the $14.744 million allocated for the Highways Division to the Community Access Program. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister McLeod. Mr. Blake.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Frederick Blake Jr.

Frederick Blake Jr. Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chair. That sounds great. It brings me to my next question. Is that extra? Three months down the road when we do our budget, are we still going to get the other million as well? Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Blake. Minister McLeod.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

As Mr. Blake would say, nice try.

---Laughter

No, this is just an interim appropriation. We still have the business planning process to go through and then we will work with committee, get feedback from committee, as we develop our main estimates that will be tabled in May/June. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister McLeod. Mr. Blake.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Frederick Blake Jr.

Frederick Blake Jr. Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, and thank you to the department to make that change there and we look forward to the first three months. Thanks.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Blake. Further comments or questions? Seeing none, we will continue with the review. Department: Transportation. Appropriation authority required $26,717.00.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Mr. Thompson.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Can the Finance Minister provide us with a list of the amortization of the $20.42 million that's been allocated? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Minister McLeod.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. We can provide that. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Thank you. Seeing no further comments, we will continue. Government of Northwest Territories 2016-2017 interim estimates, operations expenditures. Total operations expenditures appropriation. Appropriation authority required, $518,478,000.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Does committee agree that the consideration of Tabled Document 2-18(2), Interim Estimates, 2016-2017 is concluded?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Mr. Beaulieu.

Committee Motion 29-18(2): Concurrence Of Tabled Document 2-18(2): Interim Estimates, 2016-2017
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I move that consideration for Tabled Document 2-18(2), Interim Estimates, 2016-2017 now be concluded and that the Tabled Document 2-18(2) be reported and recommended as ready for further consideration in formal session through the form of an appropriation bill. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Committee Motion 29-18(2): Concurrence Of Tabled Document 2-18(2): Interim Estimates, 2016-2017
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. A motion is on the floor. The motion is in order. To the motion.

Committee Motion 29-18(2): Concurrence Of Tabled Document 2-18(2): Interim Estimates, 2016-2017
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Question.

Committee Motion 29-18(2): Concurrence Of Tabled Document 2-18(2): Interim Estimates, 2016-2017
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Motion is carried.

---Carried

Thank you to the Minister and his witnesses. Sergeant-at-Arms, you may escort the witnesses from the Chamber. What is the wish of the Committee? Mr. Beaulieu.

Committee Motion 29-18(2): Concurrence Of Tabled Document 2-18(2): Interim Estimates, 2016-2017
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I wish to report progress.

Committee Motion 29-18(2): Concurrence Of Tabled Document 2-18(2): Interim Estimates, 2016-2017
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. There is a motion on the floor to report progress. The motion is in order and non-debatable. All those in favour? All those opposed? Motion is carried.

---Carried

I will now rise and report progress.

Report of Committee of the Whole
Report of Committee of the Whole

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

May I have the report of Committee of the Whole. Member for Hay River North.

Report of Committee of the Whole
Report of Committee of the Whole

R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, your committee has been considering Tabled Document 2-18(2), Interim Estimates, 2016-2017, and would like to report progress with one motion adopted and that consideration of Tabled Document 2-18(2) is concluded and that the House concur in those estimates and that an appropriation bill to be based thereon be introduced without delay. I move that the report of the Committee of the Whole be concurred with. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Report of Committee of the Whole
Report of Committee of the Whole

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Do I have a seconder? Masi. Member for Kam Lake.

Report of Committee of the Whole
Report of Committee of the Whole

Some Hon. Members

Question.

Report of Committee of the Whole
Report of Committee of the Whole

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Motion carried. Masi

---Carried.

Item 22, third reading of bills. Honourable Premier.

Report of Committee of the Whole
Report of Committee of the Whole

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to return to item 14, tabling of documents.

---Unanimous consent granted

Tabled Document 23-18(2): Ministerial Mandates, 18th Legislative Assembly, March 1, 2016
Report of Committee of the Whole

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

Mr. Speaker, I would like to table the following document entitled “Ministerial Mandates, 18th Legislative Assembly, March 1, 2016.” Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Tabled Document 23-18(2): Ministerial Mandates, 18th Legislative Assembly, March 1, 2016
Report of Committee of the Whole

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Tabling of documents. Third reading of bills. Member for Mackenzie Delta.

Bill 1: An Act To Amend The Legislative Assembly And Executive Council Act
Third Reading of Bills

Frederick Blake Jr.

Frederick Blake Jr. Mackenzie Delta

Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Hay River South, that Bill 1, An Act to Amend the Legislative Assembly and Executive Council Act, be read for third time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Bill 1: An Act To Amend The Legislative Assembly And Executive Council Act
Third Reading of Bills

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. The motion is in order. To the motion. Member for Mackenzie Delta.

Bill 1: An Act To Amend The Legislative Assembly And Executive Council Act
Third Reading of Bills

Frederick Blake Jr.

Frederick Blake Jr. Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'd like to request a recorded vote. Thank you.

Bill 1: An Act To Amend The Legislative Assembly And Executive Council Act
Third Reading of Bills

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Member requests for recorded vote. The motion is in order.

Bill 1: An Act To Amend The Legislative Assembly And Executive Council Act
Third Reading of Bills

Some Hon. Members

Question.

Bill 1: An Act To Amend The Legislative Assembly And Executive Council Act
Third Reading of Bills

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

The question has been called. All those in favour please stand.

Recorded Vote
Third Reading of Bills

Deputy Clerk Of The House (Mr. Schauerte)

Mr. Blake, Mr. McNeely, Mr. Testart, Mr. Nakimayak, Mr. Beaulieu, Mr. Thompson, Mr. O'Reilly, Ms. Green, Mr. Nadli, Mr. Vanthuyne, Mr. Moses, Ms. Cochrane, Mr. Abernethy, Mr. McLeod – Yellowknife South, Mr. McLeod – Inuvik Twin Lakes, Mr. Schumann, Mr. Sebert, Mr. Simpson.

Recorded Vote
Third Reading of Bills

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

All those opposed please stand. All those abstaining please stand. All those supporting, 18; opposed, zero; abstentions; zero. Bill passed.

Recorded Vote
Third Reading of Bills

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Bill 1 has had third reading. Masi. Third reading of bills. Mr. Clerk, orders of the day.

Orders of the Day
Orders of the Day

Deputy Clerk Of The House (Mr. Schauerte)

Mr. Speaker, there will be a meeting of the Standing Committee on Priorities and Planning at adjournment today. Orders of the day for Wednesday, March 16, 2016, at 1:30 p.m.:

1. Prayer

2. Ministers’ Statements

3. Members’ Statements

4. Returns to Oral Questions

5. Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

6. Acknowledgements

7. Oral Questions

8. Written Questions

9. Returns to Written Questions

10. Replies to Commissioner’s Opening Address

11. Petitions

12. Reports of Standing and Special Committees

13. Reports of Committees on the Review of Bills

14. Tabling of Documents

15. Notices of Motion

16. Notices of Motion for First Reading of Bills

17. Motions

18. First Reading of Bills

19. Second Reading of Bills

20. Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

21. Report of Committee of the Whole

22. Third Reading of Bills

23. Orders of the Day

Orders of the Day
Orders of the Day

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi, Mr. Clerk. This House stands adjourned to Wednesday, March 2, at 1:30 p.m.

---ADJOURNMENT

The House adjourned at 4:21 p.m.