This is page numbers 299-324 of the Hansard for the 18th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was community.

Question 136-18(2): Territorial Cancer Strategy
Oral Questions

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Mr. Speaker, the evidence shows that one of the best ways to combat cancer is to prevent cancer, which is why we are focusing on healthy eating initiatives and encouraging people to get their exercise. We are doing this in partnership with a number of different groups. There is fantastic work being done by sports and recreation, Sport North, the Department of MACA, to encourage people to be active. ITI is doing a number of fantastic things with respect to supporting agriculture as an economy, but also supporting small local gardens. We have had a number of individuals apply for money through the anti-poverty funding to support community gardens. So we are trying to encourage people to eat healthy, be active, and live healthy. But also, we are encouraging people to get early screening. We are working with communities on finding ways to encourage people. What is it going to take to encourage people to attend the Well Woman and Well Man on a regular basis in order to get that screening done early?

Question 136-18(2): Territorial Cancer Strategy
Oral Questions

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

I would like to ask the Minister if he can direct the department to do some specific work with the community of Fort Resolution in developing an action plan to augment the cancer strategy.

Question 136-18(2): Territorial Cancer Strategy
Oral Questions

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Mr. Speaker, I hear the Member. I think it is important for us to be in partnership with Fort Resolution. But I wouldn't suggest that we should be developing the action plan. I think it would be better if we work with the community through their community wellness plans, work with them to develop a strategy that works for them. We could develop a strategy, but I would hate to impose it on any community.

I would like to sit down with the Member and maybe the representatives from the community and talk about how we can work through the community wellness plans and build upon the important work or good work that has been done in other jurisdictions. By way of example, Fort Good Hope has done some incredible work around sharing circles and cancer circles that the community of Fort Resolution could seriously learn from. A real opportunity to build upon the good work that has been done, but also tailor something specific to a community. I won't commit to developing the strategy or an action plan, but I sure would like to sit down with the community and see what opportunities we have to work together to support them in the development of a plan that meets their needs.

Question 136-18(2): Territorial Cancer Strategy
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Oral questions. Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh.

Question 136-18(2): Territorial Cancer Strategy
Oral Questions

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am happy with that response. Can the Minister provide me a timeframe as to when the department can start working with the community? Thank you.

Question 136-18(2): Territorial Cancer Strategy
Oral Questions

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Mr. Speaker, I do believe the community and the department already work together through the Aboriginal health and community wellness division on their wellness plan. We do have a significant amount of people working on the Cancer Strategy. What I will do, Mr. Speaker, is I will ask the Member through you to maybe work with the community to get in touch with us and have a conversation. I couldn't tell you the timeline because we have never been contacted to this degree in this nature. I think there is an opportunity here. So I would say let's work together. If the Member can put us in touch, we can start having discussions, work out a timeline together. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 136-18(2): Territorial Cancer Strategy
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Yellowknife North.

Question 137-18(2): Provision Of 911 Emergency Telephone Services
Oral Questions

Cory Vanthuyne

Cory Vanthuyne Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Minister of MACA. Mr. Speaker, as I mentioned in my Member’s statement, a 911 emergency telephone service has the potential to be an important public safety measure. Such a system would be available for a relatively low initial cost and a relatively low annual operating cost. The risks of not having such a system are clear. During previous Assemblies, the government has engaged key participants in a 911 stakeholders group and engaged a study which concluded that the NWT is well positioned to implement 911. Mr. Speaker, I'd like to ask the Minister, would the government be willing to restart the discussion with Members about this important basic public safety measure? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 137-18(2): Provision Of 911 Emergency Telephone Services
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs.

Question 137-18(2): Provision Of 911 Emergency Telephone Services
Oral Questions

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Speaker, 911 has been on the radar for the past assemblies and it received a lot of attention. There's a lot of work that's gone into it. We had a working group that was set up to analyze the implementation and how we could work 911 into the system. That work is being done, as the Member correctly stated. But to his question, 911 is not really a part of the NWT mandate, the mandate we just put together, but recognizing that it is an important safety service that's required across the NWT, I will commit to the Member that we will continue to have discussion on 911 service and how we can get the necessary funding to implement this so the discussion will carry on, Mr. Speaker. Thank you very much.

Question 137-18(2): Provision Of 911 Emergency Telephone Services
Oral Questions

Cory Vanthuyne

Cory Vanthuyne Yellowknife North

Thank you to the Minister for his reply. That appears to be a positive response. Mr. Speaker, would the Minister be willing to engage with other stakeholders to seek support for funding and partnerships to make a 911 service viable?

Question 137-18(2): Provision Of 911 Emergency Telephone Services
Oral Questions

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Speaker, absolutely, if there is opportunity for us to find other stakeholders or other community governments and that, we can partner up with them and we will explore all options in how we can move this forward. We have done a lot of work across the jurisdiction, across the country to see what their successes have been with the implementation and which systems might work best for up here. I think we have basically come up with a plan. The next step now is to identify finances, to try and implement across the NWT, and it's one of the reasons we go through the exercise that we go through so we can free up some funds that we are able to invest into initiatives like 911.

Question 137-18(2): Provision Of 911 Emergency Telephone Services
Oral Questions

Cory Vanthuyne

Cory Vanthuyne Yellowknife North

Finally, Mr. Speaker, will the Minister then commit to revisiting the possibility of establishing a 911 emergency telephone service for the NWT during the life of this assembly? In other words, what would be the expected timeframe to actually have a service in place?

Question 137-18(2): Provision Of 911 Emergency Telephone Services
Oral Questions

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Speaker, the Member has already raised it as an issue that continues to be on the radar. We have had a lot of the work done, the research work done, and so we know where we need to go. We know what it's going to cost, so our challenge now is to come up with the funding to try and implement this, see where it's going to work best. But as far as during the life of this Assembly, it would be ideal to -- because this work has been going on, I think, for the last eight, nine years, so if there is an opportunity to do it during the life of this Assembly, we will certainly explore that.

Question 137-18(2): Provision Of 911 Emergency Telephone Services
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Hay River North.

Question 138-18(2): Hay River Long Term Care Beds
Oral Questions

R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Earlier I spoke about the long-term care bed situation in Hay River. Earlier the Minister of Finance mentioned that the Woodland Manor expansion, as we call it, is going through. So I have some questions for the Minister of Health and Social Services. This might be more of a public works question, but I think the Minister probably can answer it. I was wondering what the status of this project is? We know it's going through, but when is construction scheduled to start? When is it expected to finish? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 138-18(2): Hay River Long Term Care Beds
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Minister of Health and Social Services.

Question 138-18(2): Hay River Long Term Care Beds
Oral Questions

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the plan is to build a 10-bed facility; including nine long-term care beds as well as a respite bed, for a total of 10 beds and that respite bed can be used for long-term care actually dependent on the needs. So it's actually a 10-bed facility, not a nine-bed facility. A contract has been signed with a proponent who is in the process currently of developing a schematic, a design, as well as putting together the costs of the project moving forward. We anticipate getting that shortly or, rather, Public Works and Services yet anticipates getting that shortly. If the project is within budget, we will be moving forward. We're hoping to have ground broken by the fall/late summer should they, like I say, contract come in on a reasonable price with a finish completion in 2017 so that we can move from H.H. Williams into Woodland Manor.

Question 138-18(2): Hay River Long Term Care Beds
Oral Questions

R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

I guess my government math was wrong, it's 10 beds, not nine beds. Regardless, even if it's 10 beds, it still isn't going to address our needs. It's going to replace what we have now. This piece of land, it can't accommodate an expansion; there's the Manor there, there's the hospital there, there's the ravine there. Is there another piece of land in Hay River that's suitable? By suitable, I mean large enough to build on and economical?

Question 138-18(2): Hay River Long Term Care Beds
Oral Questions

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Mr. Speaker, the Member's exactly right. I mean, this building doesn't address our future need, it simply keeps us at status quo in Hay River. We do know from the long-term care review that by 2026 we need 30 more beds on top of the ones we already have and will have with this new building in the community with respect to long-term care. So more needs to be done, we're currently doing our review, our report, coming up with an action plan, how we can facilitate beds across the Northwest Territories by 2026.

As it currently stands, there isn't significant room on the current Woodland Manor site, there's enough to fit this new 10-bed facility. But what we're looking at today, Mr. Speaker, is we have a much larger campus there that does include the H.H. Williams building. We are looking at possibly taking over that property and utilizing it for expansion for long-term care. We have a lot of due diligence we still have to do, but we see a real opportunity to expand into that site and make a real long-term care campus in that particular area. It's a good area. It's got the electricity, the plumbing already built into the site, it's already got some parking. It would take a limited site prep. It's close to the independent living as well as the long-term care, so it could be an ideal site. We are going to put a reserve on that site for Health and Social Services so that we can keep options open to us moving forward, and hopefully we will be able to address our 30-bed shortage in that community by plan during the life of this government with build before 2026.

Question 138-18(2): Hay River Long Term Care Beds
Oral Questions

R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

It's good to hear that there is a plan to expand, that they're looking forward at that. What I'm hearing is that the H.H. Williams site, I'm hearing it referred to as a site, not the building, so I imagine that the building is not going to be on this site when it's expanded into. There’s been some apprehension to utilize this building, and there's a lot of people in town who want to use this, there's lots of needs and we just don't have the space. People have been coming to me wondering what's going on with that building. So I'm just wondering why the government is averse to using it. Are the costs just too high or are there structural issues, are there high operational costs, are there deferred maintenance costs that the people need to know about?

Question 138-18(2): Hay River Long Term Care Beds
Oral Questions

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Mr. Speaker, all the answers were in the Member's question. The Member has actually hit it on the head. That building costs us about $600,000 a year just to heat and provide electricity. On top of that, the Hay River Health and Social Services Authority does provide minor O and M. Public Works and Services is always monitoring the condition of that building. Should any catastrophic incidents happen in that building, a failure of the sprinkler system by way of example, as long as we're occupying, we would have to do that upgrade.

The building was reviewed several times prior to the final decision to move forward with a new standalone hospital in Hay River. It was determined that based on the high level of deferred maintenance required on that building it was not economical to move forward with a repair or retrofit on that building. The same is still true. It does not meet the needs moving forward for a long-term care facility. The deferred maintenance is quite high. If you look at the building, if you walk at it from a certain angle, you'll notice that there is some real irregularities in the building itself. We are looking at getting out of that building as quickly as we can so we can stop paying those high costs for occupying this building that is certainly questionable. But we are looking at utilizing that site for a possible long-term care expansion to meet the long-term care needs of Hay River in the South Slave. We believe there's an opportunity here. We believe we can do some real positive work on that site and meet the needs of the community and the region.

Question 138-18(2): Hay River Long Term Care Beds
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Oral questions. Member for Hay River North.

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Question 138-18(2): Hay River Long Term Care Beds
Oral Questions

R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think the Minister has cleared up a lot of the lingering questions we've had. I know the Minister doesn't have a long-term plan yet, they said they're working on the action plan to address the needs by 2026. I'm just wondering when can we expect to know - and I understand there's needs all over the territory, there's 286 or 256 beds needed across the territory, and so I know Hay River is not the first in line. When can we expect to know when a solution will be presented? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 138-18(2): Hay River Long Term Care Beds
Oral Questions

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Mr. Speaker, we intend to have an action plan moving forward to outline how we're going to address the need over the next 10 years early in the life of this government, hopefully within this fiscal year, barring any unforeseen circumstances. In the meantime, we're also going to be taking some short-term, medium-term and long-term actions to start addressing these issues. We do know that one of the largest needs is actually here in Yellowknife. There's very little capacity, we're very stretched in Yellowknife.

We also know there's significant need in the Beaufort-Delta. We have people actually living in the acute care units rather than in the long-term care units, which isn't ideal. Long-term care is supposed to be your home. We do believe we're going to have a little bit of reprieve in the Beaufort-Delta when the Norman Wells facility opens, but we still have challenges in Yellowknife, and that certainly doesn't exclude Hay River where we know we need 30 beds by 2026.

We intend to have the plan moving forward, our action plan moving forward, early in the life of this government. I don't have a defined date. As soon as I have a defined date, I will certainly share that with the Member and all committee members.