This is page numbers 525-570 of the Hansard for the 18th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was health.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Cory Vanthuyne

Cory Vanthuyne Yellowknife North

So, Mr. Chair, just for some clarification. You know, I want to be respectful here, with all due respect to court cases and positions that governments are put in relevant to judgments and decisions. We're identifying here nearly a million dollars a year required to, you know, deliver French language communication. I respect that we have an Act that recognizes all 11 official languages, including French. I'm wondering, you know, this is a fairly large chunk of money and I don't want to deny that it's being put to good use. I'm just troubled to understand why we have nearly a million dollars in this regard here, and seemingly we don't have a line item relevant to the Aboriginal language communications and services. Maybe some explanation might be warranted there, Mr. Chair. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Vanthuyne. Mr. Minister.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The dollars that are coming in are as a result of the court case. It may be better to ask the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment some of those questions. As a result they are responsible for the actual -- they lead the rollout of the response to the court case.

Just for the record, the court case was based on a constitutional challenge against the Government of the Northwest Territories which we lost, and we had a constitutional obligation to meet the remedy that was outlined by the courts. This is Health and Social Services part. There is actually much larger budget related to that court case that is spread across all the Departments of the Northwest Territories, Government of the Northwest Territories.

We provide our Aboriginal language services from within the existing budgets that you see in front of you and flow those dollars to the authorities who provide appropriate signage, arrange translators for the different Aboriginal languages. We also provide bilingual bonuses to our staff, there's many mechanisms by which we try to provide or ensure we're providing appropriate language services across the Northwest Territories for the different language groups.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Vanthuyne.,

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Cory Vanthuyne

Cory Vanthuyne Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I thank the Minister for the explanation. Under Health and Social Services authority funding, the explanation identifies funding to Health and Social Service Authorities for the provision of administration and support services. It's the largest contribution for $41,426,000. It's increased by a few million since the actuals in 2014. Do we expect that this amount might go down as we see the new system transformation? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Vanthuyne. Mr. Minister.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chair. So these dollars cover things like basic administration, client support services, some of the direct costs by way of individual authorities, some facility maintenance and support across the different authorities, their finance costs, human resource costs and some of their system support costs.

So these are things that are happening in the authorities today. I don't anticipate that these dollars are going to go down with a single authority because, as I've said several times, this isn't centralization or taking anything away from the communities or regions that exist today. They are still going to require CEOs, they're still going to be providing services in their health centres and they're still going to require human resources or still going to require staff. So we don't anticipate a drop in this area as we roll out the one authority.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Vanthuyne.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Cory Vanthuyne

Cory Vanthuyne Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I understood when we got briefings given to us in the early days of this Assembly that there in fact was going to be some economy of scale identified in the transformation, in the system transformation, and that we were going to be able to help the authorities with matters relevant to, you know, hiring and procurement, things of that nature.

In the last couple of years, we've seen increases as it relates to this line item. I would have thought that maybe there would have been some efficiencies identified and that there could be a possible future reduction with the new system transformation. I don't know if the department cares to comment on that, but I thought that that was the expectation. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Vanthuyne. Mr. Minister.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, in the previous government, as with this government, I've been very careful to say that the health transformation is not about reducing costs of the healthcare system. But, absolutely, we anticipate we're going to find some efficiencies, whether it's through purchasing, purchasing together, we're going to be able to share some finance services, you know, cross-training.

We absolutely anticipate efficiencies, but we don't anticipate dropping the budget as a result. One of our priorities is actually to do some deficit recovery. Currently, the eight authorities combined have almost $50 million in deficit, so we have to build in our deficit and recovery into our plan. We're hoping to use some of the efficiencies that we attain to help offset some of our costs which means, ultimately, once we've reduced our deficit, we should be able to have some additional dollars to invest in healthcare. But I don't anticipate dropping the budgets in these areas immediately or at all.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Vanthuyne.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Cory Vanthuyne

Cory Vanthuyne Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'll move past that item and move to Tlicho Cultural Co-ordinator. I'm happy to see in the description that Canada and the Tlicho are one-third partners with the territorial government in funding this position. All I really am asking here is: why is there just this one particular position identified in this particular part of the budget? Are there similar positions funded in other regions throughout the territory? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Vanthuyne. Mr. Minister.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, this is a direct result of the Tlicho Agreement, their land claims agreement, land claims and self-government agreement. It's articulated in the legislation. This is us meeting our obligation under that legislation. They're the only group in the Northwest Territories that has finalized self-government negotiations. This could be something that exists in the future, if negotiated, with different Aboriginal governments.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Vanthuyne.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Cory Vanthuyne

Cory Vanthuyne Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I thank the Minister for the explanation. That seems to me that that would have been easy enough to have identified originally in the explanation that's in here regarding the position. That's all my questions for page 177, Mr. Chair. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Vanthuyne. Moving on. Recognizing Mr. Nadli.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Chair. My question is in relation to that same page, but it affects just the recent recognition of the need for Dene fonts in terms of parents registering their children with their first names, their traditional First Nation names. I wanted to understand: what is the cost in terms of implementing the formal recognition of Dene fonts and its use in the vital statistics. Mahsi.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Nadli. Mr. Minister.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, we're looking at coming forward with some amendments of the Vital Statistics Act that will allow us to include Aboriginal names and appropriate fonts within birth certificates and other documents within the Northwest Territories. We've done some early assessment, but we don't have a full costing of that change at this point. But, when we have better information on the costing, we will certainly share that with committee and the Member.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Nadli.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Chair. If the Minister could also maybe indicate, state in terms of the timeliness, in terms of the full implementation of recognizing the Dene fonts and its use in the vital stats. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Nadli. Mr. Minister.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, as I've indicated, I'm hoping to bring forward legislation for first and second reading during this sitting, at which point it will be in committee's hands for 120 days, which means the earliest it will be able to be in front of the legislature for third reading would be the fall sitting.

If passed, and I stress

if passed

, then we will have to identify an appropriate implementation date that gives us time to actually change our system so that we can utilize the different fonts that exist within our Official Languages Act, the 11 official languages, so that we can produce our documents using those official languages. I don't have a set timeline. Some things are still up in the air as far as, you know, if the legislation passes, if I'm able to get it in front of the House. I anticipate I will, but, given that there are some uncertainties, I'm unprepared to commit to an actual date at this point.