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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Vanthuyne.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Cory Vanthuyne

Cory Vanthuyne Yellowknife North

Mr. Chairman, I appreciate the comments, however this is a very significant reduction. I think that there has been clearly some concerns amongst Members as it relates to this reduction. Is this the amount that the Department is committing to? I wonder if we can get clarification. I appreciate that, Mr. Chairman.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Vanthuyne. Minister.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Anderson will expand on my statement earlier.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Anderson.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Anderson

Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes, just to add a bit more detail to this account. What we've done is in our rural remote communities we've changed our strategy a little bit where when somebody wants to buy a house we have incentives in place for them to buy a house that they're renting from us, for example, through our HELP program. You can also purchase a unit from us through the Public Housing program as well.

So when a client wants to purchase those units or those homes, they actually get a subsidy under the PATH program of up to 55 per cent in the North and 44 per cent, I believe, in the southern part of the territory. So they're going to the bank to get the remaining balance. So in these cases, the Corporation is getting money back, so this expense is like depreciation, it's a non-cash expenditure. So we can still meet the same demand that we have now without that -- because it's, if I can explain it well enough, it's essentially like depreciation where you have an expense on your books for the subsidy, but it's a non-cash item, so we can continue to provide the same level of service under this program as we provide now. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Anderson. Mr. Vanthuyne.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Cory Vanthuyne

Cory Vanthuyne Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I appreciate that the department is finding ways to better improve programming, that's important. We want to make sure that we are providing the best possible program service we can. I just wonder though, however, this is a significant reduction, can the department maybe speak a little bit more to, you know, where that actual funding has then gone? Is there some form of reinstatement? You know, I appreciate that improving the program so that we can get better uptake. I'm trying to get a little bit of a handle on where the actual reduced amount has gone to and where is it going to be. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Vanthuyne. Minister

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Anderson would like to address that.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Anderson.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

June 16th, 2016

Anderson

Yes, thank you, Mr. Chair. As I said, what will happen in this account, if we sell several of our housing units, for example, there'll still be an expense under this, It'll be higher than the budget. As I indicated, it's a non-cash expenditure. So what happens is we take the proceeds that we get from the financing, wherever the client finances their share of the acquisition price of the house, and that money gets rolled back into our revenues for reinvestment in our programs. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Anderson. Mr. Vanthuyne.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Cory Vanthuyne

Cory Vanthuyne Yellowknife North

Okay, I appreciate that, that's a better understanding. That's the questions that I have right now on this page. I'll let others ask. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Vanthuyne. Mr. Nakimayak.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Herbert Nakimayak

Herbert Nakimayak Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, I just have a question on the Beaufort Delta District, the actuals for 2014-15 were $879,300, and for 2016-17 they're $838,100. I just want to see where the reductions are on that. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Nakimayak. What page are you referring to?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Herbert Nakimayak

Herbert Nakimayak Nunakput

Sorry, we're on 370, right?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

We're on page 371. Do I have further comments or questions on page 370? One moment. First, Mr. McNeely.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Daniel McNeely

Daniel McNeely Sahtu

Page 371, I notice there CMHC Repair Programs in the previous other year, 2014-15, there was $492 in that budget for CMHC repairs. Can the Minister explain if we're going to see any money or is there monies being applied for to extend CMHC repairs to this budget? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. McNeely. Minister.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The $492,000 is actually an old CMHC funding, and so it's discontinued. So now being covered under home ownership programs. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Mr. McNeely. There's no further questions from Mr. McNeely. Mr. O'Reilly.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. I'm looking at the line, minor repairs, under rental housing programs. The figures here jump around quite a bit: 2014-15 it was over $7.4 million, next year is $1.7million in 2015-16, and then in 2016-17 is $2.2 million. So why are these figures jumping all over the place? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Minister.