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Question 349-18(2): Ntcl Employee Pension Plan And Severence Payments
Oral Questions

R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, earlier I made a statement about NTCL pensions, and I have a correction to make. I stated that the court hearing regarding the pensions was scheduled for October 26th. Today CBC reported that that date has been pushed back to early 2017. It's unclear whether the pensioners will continue to receive their full pension until that date or if the next cheque will be reduced. The pensioners I've talked to have had one communication from the company saying your pension will be reduced at some date in the future. That's all they’ve heard about it. I've also heard of some recent developments. Yesterday, a number of NTCL employees who received temporary layoff notices received permanent layoff notices. There are issues surrounding severance that I'll probably be discussing in the future as those developments develop.

My questions are related to what, if any, role the GNWT is taking or willing to take to protect the pensions of the former NTCL employees and to ensure they receive a fair severance? My question for the Finance Minister is: what level of engagement with NTCL, IDC, any of the unions involved, or the Monitor, Price Waterhouse Cooper, has the government being engaged in so they at least know what's going on with the situation? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 349-18(2): Ntcl Employee Pension Plan And Severence Payments
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Minister of Finance.

Question 349-18(2): Ntcl Employee Pension Plan And Severence Payments
Oral Questions

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as the Member said in his Member's statement that this is a privately-owned company and they were paying into a pension plan. To this point, we haven't had much contact with any of the parties involved. I think we play a very limited exposure that we have to NTCL and we don’t really have a standing in the bankruptcy proceedings. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 349-18(2): Ntcl Employee Pension Plan And Severence Payments
Oral Questions

R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

I think I know how my second question will be answered. In 1999, the GNWT supported an application to the courts in the Royal Oak bankruptcy proceedings taking place in Ontario, relating to the termination of federally-regulated Giant Mine employees. Our Government argued on behalf of the employees that the NWT Labour Standards Act had to be complied with to the benefit of the employees despite the fact that it is federal jurisdiction. Despite the fact this took place in a different jurisdiction, they did this to support our residents. So is the GNWT willing to put in the same effort to support the affected NTCL pensioners and terminate employees in terms of engaging any sort of legal proceedings?

Question 349-18(2): Ntcl Employee Pension Plan And Severence Payments
Oral Questions

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Speaker, my understanding is that the GNWT had a standing in the Royal Oak proceeding so it was easier to intervene and make representation. I said before, we have limited exposure with NTCL. We don’t have a standing in the bankruptcy proceedings, so it would be difficult for us to do so, and it's also assumed that the pensioners and affected employees are suitably represented in the proceedings.

Question 349-18(2): Ntcl Employee Pension Plan And Severence Payments
Oral Questions

R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

This is federally regulated. It always comes back to that. So on the federal level what is the GNWT doing to engage the federal Minister? Are they writing the federal Minister in support of the pensioners? Are they talking to the MP at least? Is there anything going on a federal level to support these residents of our territory?

Question 349-18(2): Ntcl Employee Pension Plan And Severence Payments
Oral Questions

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Speaker, at this point, no, I haven't had the opportunity to speak with our MP; however, I will commit to having a conversation with Mr. McLeod, and as far as writing to the appropriate federal Minister, no, that hasn't been done yet.

Question 349-18(2): Ntcl Employee Pension Plan And Severence Payments
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral Questions. Member for Hay River North.

Question 349-18(2): Ntcl Employee Pension Plan And Severence Payments
Oral Questions

R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

These answers are, I guess, what I expected. We see that there's not much happening on part of the Government to support, you know, the affected employees of NTCL. In general, these type of things can be avoided in the future. I know that in Ontario they have a system where they have regulations to protect pensions, and there was an article a couple days ago in the Financial Post talking about how even public sector pensions, the investments are becoming riskier. They're not as stringently regulated as things like banks, and so there's a risk that, you know, a lot of people, a lot of organizations can face these pension shortfalls. So is the Government aware of this and doing anything to prevent these types of issues in the territory in the future? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 349-18(2): Ntcl Employee Pension Plan And Severence Payments
Oral Questions

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Speaker, I'm not personally aware of it; maybe the Department is, but what I will ask them to do is to do some research into the issue that the Member speaks of. I mean it's unfortunate that we have to be having this discussion on the pension of those employees in Hay River for -- or all the employees of NTCL. But I will commit to the Member that I'll do further research. I'll ask the Department to maybe have a conversation with Ontario, see exactly what it is that they do there.

Question 349-18(2): Ntcl Employee Pension Plan And Severence Payments
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Sahtu.

Question 350-18(2): Mackenzie Valley Fibre Link Project Subcontractor Payments
Oral Questions

October 18th, 2016

Daniel McNeely

Daniel McNeely Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today my question is in regards to the Fibre Optic Mackenzie Valley Project, and it's certainly a project that is financed by this Government through the P3 Arrangement and would be coming onto the books here with an extended period of one year since the project was extended from last June to this coming June. So, therefore, it's the last year of work season and having knowledge of some previous contractors that haven't been paid over the last 24 months. Could the Minister of Finance ensure that he will look into this and also look into the fact of having a reserve holdback fund to offset or pay the subcontractors related to that service? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 350-18(2): Mackenzie Valley Fibre Link Project Subcontractor Payments
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Minister of Finance.

Question 350-18(2): Mackenzie Valley Fibre Link Project Subcontractor Payments
Oral Questions

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the P3 partner is actually the contractor on this particular project and they have deals worked out with the subcontractors, and we have no role to play, it's not our contract. So there's really not much we can do. Any issues that might be happening would be between the contractor and subcontractors. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 350-18(2): Mackenzie Valley Fibre Link Project Subcontractor Payments
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Daniel McNeely

Daniel McNeely Sahtu

I thank the Minister for his prudent project management, and looking back into the statements made by the Minister on March 3 saying that, as per the project agreement, no deficiencies or holdbacks and unpaid bills would be left as part of this project come transfer day. Having said that and although it's not ours yet, but it will be, we want to get a clean bill of health that this project is met by standards and the technical issuance of the original contract are of P recognition. So I want to ask the Minister if a certificate will be coming that this government has supported a contractor and its subcontractors that enjoy working for this government knowing the fact that they will be paid a recognition or a certification of all bills paid come takeover day?

Question 350-18(2): Mackenzie Valley Fibre Link Project Subcontractor Payments
Oral Questions

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Speaker, the contractor has made great efforts in the Sahtu to make good on many of the outstanding invoices. There might have been a few that fell through the cracks. Apparently there was a meeting in Fort Good Hope and nothing was really raised during the meeting. As a matter of fact, it was quite positive and they were appreciative of the work they have this upcoming winter. I can say that of the $32 million in local spending, employment as long as 2016 the Sahtu has enjoyed the benefits of $21 million in project spending. I can assure the Member and all Members of this House and the general public that, as the Government of the Northwest Territories, we will ensure that we have a quality project when it's turned over to us and the lights are turned on.

Question 350-18(2): Mackenzie Valley Fibre Link Project Subcontractor Payments
Oral Questions

Daniel McNeely

Daniel McNeely Sahtu

Going back to a clean bill of health for all the subcontractors providing services in and outside of the Sahtu Region for the project, whether that service is coming from Fort Simpson, or other parts of Canada for that matter, it's a project that was initiated by this government and we want to ensure that we get the product that was initiated by this government as per the specifications, and a clean bill of health that all subcontractors are paid. If the Minister would provide a briefing, prior to the takeover date, that everybody is paid?

Question 350-18(2): Mackenzie Valley Fibre Link Project Subcontractor Payments
Oral Questions

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Speaker, this is a project that this government has been quite excited about, and the benefits it'll bring to technology down the valley, and of course I will keep committee apprised as to going forward. I know there's a winter bill season, that's when they are hoping to have it completed, and we are hoping to have it lit up by I believe it's this spring. So there's a short little stretch to go, but the plan is to try to have that completed this spring. But I will keep Committee apprised as to the work going forward.

Question 350-18(2): Mackenzie Valley Fibre Link Project Subcontractor Payments
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Oral questions. Member for Sahtu.

Question 350-18(2): Mackenzie Valley Fibre Link Project Subcontractor Payments
Oral Questions

Daniel McNeely

Daniel McNeely Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, my last question. I'm glad to hear that the lights are going to be turned on and hopefully it'll shed some light to unpaid bills. In the briefing or information supplied I know of certain companies that are in the neighbourhood of at least 17 per cent of the overall project, and the overall project is $82 million, so 17 per cent of that, approximately, is in the form of unpaid bills. So if that could be researched and confirmed by the Minister that it's going to be paid? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 350-18(2): Mackenzie Valley Fibre Link Project Subcontractor Payments
Oral Questions

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Speaker, as I said before, we are not the contractor, however we can encourage all the groups that are involved to try and resolve any outstanding issues, because we want this to be a project that's had a lot of positive effect and will have a lot of positive effect. So we'll encourage them to try and resolve their issues and then again, as I said before, I will keep committee apprised as to the proceedings.

Question 350-18(2): Mackenzie Valley Fibre Link Project Subcontractor Payments
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Oral questions. Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh.

Question 351-18(2): Minimum Wage
Oral Questions

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Marci cho, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'd like to ask the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment questions on the minimum wage. Mr. Speaker, I'd like to just as a refresher ask the Minister what the minimum wage is today in the NWT? Thank you.

Question 351-18(2): Minimum Wage
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Minister of Education, Culture and Employment.

Question 351-18(2): Minimum Wage
Oral Questions

Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Currently, our minimum wage in the Northwest Territories is $12.50 an hour. Back in the 17th Assembly, 2014, the Minimum Wage Committee was setup of government officials, the business sector, non-governmental organizations, as well as some representatives from our most northern communities that sat down also with the NWT Chamber of Commerce and NWT Federation of Labour. They had their discussions and recommendation made to the government was that we increase our minimum wage from $10.00 an hour to $12.50 an hour, and I believe on June 1, 2015 it took effect. Thank you, Mr Speaker.