This is page numbers 1109 - 1146 of the Hansard for the 18th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was community.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you, and I thank the Minister for that because in some of the smaller communities I represent have been asking that and I've just actually got three or four e-mails that have just come to me and asking the same question. So this capital plan actually came at the right time. So is it 75/25 per cent for building these homes for the infrastructure people, like, it's for the staff that are working there, correct? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Minister Cochrane.

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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. No, that isn't correct. The federal money is a split 75/25 per cent; however, they can use their core funding to actually -- capital funding to provide those units if that's their desire. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Minister Cochrane. Mr. Thompson.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chair, and I thank the Minister for that answer. I'm just going to assume I know this answer already but I'm going to ask it anyway: has this been shared with the communities and are the councils informed of their ability to do that? Because there seems to be some confusion out there so I'm wondering if it has been available to the communities that that's what they can do. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Minister Cochrane.

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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes, it has been shared with the communities; however if there is any community out there that is unsure of the policies going forward MACA's whole priority is to work with communities and provide them the supports they need, the tools they need to function properly. So we would more than happy to go back in and work with any community that is a bit confused on the funding process. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Minister Cochrane. Mr. Thompson.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chair, and I thank the Minister. I'm good with that. Once I get this information I can share with the communities, and I understand who the people are already in my riding who does the work. I again thank the Minister for clarifying that and deputy minister for clarifying that today. So thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you. Mr. Thompson. Mr. Blake.

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Frederick Blake Jr. Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Just a couple of questions for the Minister. You know, I'm very familiar with municipal funding to the communities as it just came into place when I just became a chief and mayor. You know the advantages this fund has for the communities it just can't be compared to the way it used to be.

You know everybody was in line for, you know, a project for many years, but now we've just got to budget for it and plan and go forward. I really hope that this fund could continue over the years to come, and I'd just like to thank the government at the time and this government for following through on this. I know there is plans over the last while here to possibly reduce the amount going to communities. Just moving forward, I'd just like to be assured that funds, for example, for Tsiigehtchic, Fort McPherson, Aklavik will remain the same over the next few years? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Blake. Minister Cochrane.

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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. First of all, I'd like to say thank you for the appreciation of the work that MACA has done. I am honoured to be the Minister for MACA; it is about community development and it works well with my social work degree.

I also agree that some of the changes that they've made, things like the New Deal, the funding formula, are really progressive and do talk about community development. So thank you. The second part of that is as long as I'm here I will ensure that the funding stays. Thank you.

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The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Minister Cochrane. Anything further? Mr. Blake.

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Frederick Blake Jr. Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'm sure the department does know this, but coming from a small community, for example, like Tsiigehtchic, with the amount of funds that we do get for a major project, for example, the band office or the new municipal office they're planning for, in order to build a piece of infrastructure like this, we do have to save for a number of years to have enough funds to proceed with the project. It's always important to keep this in mind.

I know that was one of the concerns, that the communities weren't spending that money, but you always have to remember from the communities' aspect is we have to first save in order to have enough to pay for our projects. That was one of the reasons why those weren't happening, but in visiting all the communities, you see the infrastructure, whether it's the new hamlet office in Fort McPherson or all the other great infrastructure the communities have, all the new equipment now. It's very good to see, very positive, and hopefully this continues. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Blake. Minister Cochrane.

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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I think that's a bit of a comment, but I do want to express my honour to be able to travel to the communities and see both the strengths and the challenges that are faced within the diverse communities in the Northwest Territories. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Minister Cochrane. Committee, any further questions on pages 65, 66? Questions? Thank you, committee. That brings us back to page 65. Municipal and Community Affairs, regional operations, infrastructure investments, $28,002,000. Are we agreed? Oh, sorry. Mr. Beaulieu.

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Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I thought I had indicated that I wanted to get back on the list. I won't be as long. Just two questions. The first question is: when they talk about infrastructure deficit in the communities, we know now that paved streets or chip sealed streets or whatever type of suppressant you wish to put on your streets is not part of infrastructure deficit. Is housing, is staff housing, part of infrastructure deficit?

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The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. Minister Cochrane.

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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. No, housing is not in the allocated amount. But as stated earlier, we will provide a list of the items that are approved. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Minister Cochrane. Mr. Beaulieu.

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Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Earlier on the deputy referred to the Building Canada Fund. At one point, MACA had a seven-year agreement followed by a ten-year agreement. I'm wondering, since this is well within the time, I'm wondering why the BCF is not incorporated into this number. In fact, not incorporated into the actuals and last fiscal year as well. Thank you.

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The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. Ms. Young.

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Young

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The federal funding programs that we receive show up as Fund 3 in our budget, not as vote to funding, capital funding. So all you see here is the GNWT funding provided, the $28 million. All of the federal funding is an application-based program to Canada, and when we get the money from Canada it shows up as Fund 3, as federal funding received on behalf of others.

Mr. Chair, the Minister has asked me to clarify. The infrastructure deficit is calculated based on a core basket of goods. Community governments can still choose to spend money outside what that core basket of goods is.

So when I say they can spend money of staff housing, that's true. Is it included in the infrastructure deficit calculation? No, it's not. So because it's not included in the deficit calculation doesn't mean you can't spend the money on those things. So just to clarify the disconnect there.