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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

I'll turn it over to Mr. Guy.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Minister Schumann. Mr. Guy.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Guy

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Through the Capital Asset Retrofit Program, we focus on the GNWT-owned buildings that are managed by the Department of Public Works and Services. There are approximately 800 assets in our database that we identify for these energy efficiency upgrades. We look at each building. We do an energy audit, a detailed assessment for the proposed scope of work that we would consider through the Capital Asset Retrofit Program. We prioritize it based on payback as well as what other work we have planned on that building. That's how we develop that list. So it is focused on the GNWT's own assets that are maintained by the Department of Public Works. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Guy. Mr. Beaulieu.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I wonder if the Minister could advise the House what the deferred maintenance situation is now. What is the deferred maintenance amount at this time?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. Minister Schumann.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

It's about $212 million.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Mr. Nagel.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Nagel

I think we have nothing further. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Nagel. Mr. Beaulieu.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

I thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I am satisfied with those responses. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. Minister Schumann.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

No, thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Mr. Nadli?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'm just trying to understand the government's policy in terms of surplus buildings, just in terms of appraising the situation in Fort Providence. We did have at one time an old health centre that, I understand, has been decommissioned. So the Department of Health and Social Services, of course, did upgrade the building, so, from what we understand, the latest was that there's supposed to be an assessment in terms of whether there are hazardous materials contained in the building and perhaps consider a remediation plan of some sort.

So I understand that the department does play a role in this in terms of making that assessment, at the same time maybe making a decision at some point whether to offer it to other departments within the GNWT or, at the same time, maybe as an option to approach the community to look at maybe playing a role in terms of the future purpose of the old health centre in Fort Providence that still has life value in terms of making it of use at the local level. Maybe the Minister could clarify his role? Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Nadli. Minister Schumann. Yes, go ahead, Mr. Guy.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Guy

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The Member is correct. The Public Works and Services is responsible for the disposal of surplus government assets. In the case of the old health centre in Fort Providence, the process would be the department would surplus that formally through sending a letter to the Department of Public Works and Services, which I think has recently happened. Although the new building was completed for a number of years, that building still had some remaining assets and files in storage in there that had to be addressed by the department. I understand that has now been completed and the building has been surplussed.

We have a disposal policy in place to go through for real improved property. Part of that process is doing an assessment of the hazardous materials so that there's full disclosure should we move forward with the disposing of it to another party. Then we have a process where we consider other government uses, other uses in the community, and so forth, to determine the priorities for disposal. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Guy. Mr. Nadli.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'm just trying to understand the process. At which point would the community be approached in terms of considering whether it could be given to the community to perhaps take over responsibility in terms of maintaining the building? Is that perhaps the last

step in the policy? Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Nadli. Mr. Guy.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Guy

Thank you, Mr. Chair. We are aware of a number of interests in the community. In terms of the policy, they are about second or third down the list. We usually start with other government departments and other government agencies; however, in this case it's unlikely that we would see that type of use so the community would probably be one of the third or the fourth party. We're very early into the process, as I said. We've only recently received the formal surplus notice; however, we are aware of those requests from the community and we will be bringing them forward for consideration as we work through the process. Thank you. Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Guy. Mr. Nadli.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Just out of curiosity, like how is the building being maintained currently? I understand there has to be at the very minimum and lighting in terms of operating a building. Is that still continuing and for how long. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Nadli. Minister Schumann.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

I'll defer that to Deputy Minister Guy.