This is page numbers 629-672 of the Hansard for the 18th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was housing.

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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. So we'll be doing some research, not only nationally but also internationally, to kind of see what initiatives are out there for energy conservation, so we will commit to that.

We also really have to be careful that we're not going to give it all out because part of the savings that we will be taking from the transferring the cost of the power over will actually be used to address our declining CMHC funding because we need to make sure that we have revenues to deal with the operating and maintenance costs that will be coming up, which are declining every year. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. I appreciate that there's going to be some research done on this, but could the Minister commit to get back to the standing committee later in 2016-17 with a plan to do this?

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. If people could keep their sidebar conversations down? It's making a bit difficult to hear. Minister Cochrane.

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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. To the Member's comment, yes we can commit to actually providing a report back to committee on that within this fiscal year. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister Cochrane. Once again, if Members want mind keeping their conversations a little bit quieter? It's making it difficult for some Members to hear. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. I appreciate that commitment, and I'll look forward to seeing that report. Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Are there further comments or questions on page 361? Seeing none, I'll call the page. Community housing services, operations expenditure summary, total activity, $54,017,000. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

We will proceed to page 364, Executive, operations expenditure summary. Do we have comments or questions on this page, page 364? I'll give committee a moment. Ms. Green.

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Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Mr. Chair, thank you. I think that the motion that we passed today and discussions we had during the business planning process points to a need to create a new strategic plan for the Housing Corporation, and I understand that they have committed to work on that. Can we get an idea of when that plan might be ready for us to review? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Ms. Green. Minister.

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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. To actually set down a time level would be difficult because the survey has to be completed first. I have committed to working with providing a survey to some of the local self-governments to be able to look at the survey questions. I have committed to actually providing it to the MLAs to get their input on the questions.

Once we get the questions down, then we have to distribute the survey to every staff member, every LHO, every person that's using it, so to nail down a definite date would be difficult at this point. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Ms. Green.

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Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Could the Minister remind us what kinds of questions the survey is trying to answer and who the target for the survey is? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Ms. Green. Minister.

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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. So the survey is targeted to the communities. By "communities," I mean the government if it's self-government and also the residents within each community.

The needs assessments that we currently give is a breakdown and it's an opinion survey, of course. It gives a breakdown on what basically people think are the core needs within their communities. It gives us something that's statistical that says: this is what we should be basing our programs off. We've used it for many years, but it doesn't really address what the community says.

So, if the community is saying that, for example, there are 10 units that need to be fixed in the community but we don't have a seniors' home, the community needs assessment might put priority to the 10 homes, but the community, itself, may see the seniors' home as more important for them. So I just want to make sure, being community-based, that we actually are meeting the needs of the community, not what a piece of paper that is done on opinion-based statistics would show us but actually what the community says they prioritize, what they need within their communities.

Specific instants, like our needs assessment doesn't talk about cultural-based housing, and I want to know what cultural-based housing means within each community so that, when we provide community houses and supports within those communities, we're conscious of the cultural aspects and the needs to promote culture within each community. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Ms. Green.

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Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'm just wondering, if the survey is going to cater to the needs of each community, how a strategic plan will come out of that? I don't understand how the one will lead to the other. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Ms. Green. Minister.

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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. A strategic plan will be developed from the needs surveys in that it will be community-based. So each community, 33 communities within our region, within our territories, will be identified individually, and then the long-term plan will be to address the needs individually within that community.

It's not a strategic plan that lumps all into one because I don't believe in one-size-fits-all. It will be a strategic plan that identifies within each community what are their goals and then strategically how do we address the goals within those communities. There will be community focus, and then there will be a Housing Corporation focus that prioritizes. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Ms. Green.

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Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chair. So what I'm concerned about is, with this approach, which sounds quite fragmented, how will the Minister be able to make the case to the federal government to increase their investment if there aren't overarching goals of reducing homelessness, reducing core need, and other larger goals? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Ms. Green. Minister.

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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The strategic framework that we're looking at internally for the Housing Corporation will be based on community needs defined within that, and that is to be as culturally appropriate as possible to the different communities within the territories.

However, the territorial plan for the federal engagement will be looking at core needs throughout all three territories, and that information will be based off of our 2014 needs assessment which was done across Canada. So we'll be using that tool, as well, to promote the best interests. The federal government, in my opinion, doesn't need to know that we want to have linoleum, for example, in a community because they're hunters, in their homes, but they do need to know that we have a percentage of core need in the whole territories. Thank you, Mr. Chair.