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Question 196-18(2): Plan To Address The High Cost Of Power Rates
Oral Questions

Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

Mr. Speaker, the Minister clearly has a keen grasp on the issues facing affordable power in the Northwest Territories, but I don't hear much of a plan to deal with them. Can the Minister share with this House some of the ideas he has on dealing with this problem moving ahead and perhaps on how we're going to build on the NTPC's success with renewables specifically, Mr. Speaker?

Question 196-18(2): Plan To Address The High Cost Of Power Rates
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Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

The Northwest Territories, and it is an acknowledged leader in biomass heating and ranks second in the country in solar capacity per person. As the House heard yesterday in the Premier's speech, we are going to be rolling out a new energy plan, we will be seeking the input of the public, Members of this House, interested parties, and we are anticipating in being able to table a new energy plan early in 2017.

Question 196-18(2): Plan To Address The High Cost Of Power Rates
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Member for Kam Lake.

Question 196-18(2): Plan To Address The High Cost Of Power Rates
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Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the new federal government has offered billions in green infrastructure and plenty of money available for developing renewable power and renewable energy economies. Has the Northwest Territories Power Corporation applied for any of these resources, and are they looking at deploying to the Northwest Territories so we can get away from increases over every year, as The Minister said we can anticipate? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 196-18(2): Plan To Address The High Cost Of Power Rates
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Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

Certainly, Mr. Speaker the Power Corporation is interested in keeping rates down. As I mentioned earlier, one of the projects that is a possibility, and this was mentioned in the House yesterday by the Premier, is the possibility of exporting power to Alberta and Saskatchewan. Those discussions are at a very preliminary level as they are governments, provincial, federal, and Aboriginal, involved. But I would expect, should we be able to move forward on that project, that we would hope to obtain significant funds from the federal government. It is a renewable resource, hydro. Provinces to the south of us, particularly Saskatchewan, have indicated that they wish to get off coal, and it does present an opportunity for us.

Question 196-18(2): Plan To Address The High Cost Of Power Rates
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Frame Lake.

Question 197-18(2): Future Of Renewable Energy In The North Slave Region
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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I have some questions about the future of renewable energy in the North Slave region and I'll ask them of the Minister of Public Works and Services. I'd like to start with the North Slave Resiliency Study. I cannot see in the study where climate change models may have been used to predict water levels. Analysis seems to have been based on the past 30 years of data. Can the Minister confirm that the North Slave Resiliency Study did not consider climate change and then no predictions were made of future water levels? Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

Question 197-18(2): Future Of Renewable Energy In The North Slave Region
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Minister of Public Works and Services.

Question 197-18(2): Future Of Renewable Energy In The North Slave Region
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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Climate change was taken into consideration, but the focus was really on the previous 30 years and that is why one of the recommendation is to consider an upgrade and to keep monitoring our hydro production so that we can keep better statistics on the water levels and where we're going in the future with climate change. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 197-18(2): Future Of Renewable Energy In The North Slave Region
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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks to the Minister for the response. The North Slave Resiliency Study basically recommends against investing in renewable energy in the North Slave. Can the Minister indicate what the position of this Government is regarding investment and renewable energy in the North Slave region?

Question 197-18(2): Future Of Renewable Energy In The North Slave Region
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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

I would like to start by reinforcing that hydro is actually a renewable energy and one of the most cost effective as well, and we have a good supply as related in the Member's opening speech. It's sufficient for 90 per cent of our needs at this time. Unless there's a major mine would we actually have to look at expanding upon that. So within the cost analysis it was shown that the current system as we have now is cost effective versus bringing in something such as a solar system which would cost millions of dollars, and that cost would actually have to be transferred to the rate payers. So we're on top of it, we're watching it, but one of the priorities within this Assembly is the costs of living. So we're really conscious that we want to support renewable energy but the most effective renewable energy options that we have at this time.

Question 197-18(2): Future Of Renewable Energy In The North Slave Region
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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

I guess I do agree with the Minister in that the North Slave Resiliency Study did recommend against investing in solar, wind, and biomass. Hydro, yeah, we can probably spend a lot more money on that too perhaps, but we've already made a significant investment in Arctic Energy Alliance as the delivery agent for a variety of very successful energy conservation and retrofit programs over many years now. What impact will the recommendations from the North Slave Resiliency Study have on this investment that we've already started through the Arctic Energy Alliance and its programs?

Question 197-18(2): Future Of Renewable Energy In The North Slave Region
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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

The NWT is actually the second in Canada in regards to renewable resources and I really want to keep that title. In fact, I would like to be number one if we could get there. So Arctic Energy Alliance is really key in distributing the renewable energy resources to communities, so we are committed to maintaining an Arctic Energy Alliance within our programs and projects to work with renewable energy within the NWT.

Question 197-18(2): Future Of Renewable Energy In The North Slave Region
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Frame Lake.

Question 197-18(2): Future Of Renewable Energy In The North Slave Region
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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker, and I'd like to thank the Minister for her commitment that the recommendations coming from the North Slave Resiliency Study will not impact in any adverse way Arctic Energy Alliance. Yesterday in the House the Premier announced that there was going to be a new energy plan for the Northwest Territories. We already know that NTPC cancelled work leading to renewable energy in the North Slave. The North Slave Resiliency Study recommends against solar, wind, biomass investment in the North Slave. It appears this government has already started to make up its mind about renewable energy, at least in the North Slave. Can the Minister tell this House how renewable energy will be considered in the energy plan and whether that will be an open and transparent process? Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

Question 197-18(2): Future Of Renewable Energy In The North Slave Region
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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Yes, the new energy plan will be -- we will try to consult as much as possible within the definition, so although right now at this point the study showed that within this region that we have capacity, that we're fine within the hydro system, the renewable energy system that we have currently, we still are focussing within our thermal communities. We need to get them off diesel. This is really not sustainable energy and it's not good for our environment. So this is not only a concern for the Northwest Territories, this is national wide and international wide, so we've committed to working nationally and internationally on this issue. We take it very seriously and we will continue to research and stay abreast of current practices and as soon as the cost of alternative besides hydro becomes more cost effective than we will refocus and relook at that again because there have been really amazing results come in with the solar and the capacity of batteries, et cetera. We're on top of it and keep watching it.

Question 197-18(2): Future Of Renewable Energy In The North Slave Region
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Deh Cho.

Question 198-18(2): K’aagee Tu Protected Area
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Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Minister of Environment and Natural Resources. Collaborate with First Nations Government seems to be the mantra that this Cabinet has put forward, and there's also a need for jobs, so of course obviously a need to work with industries as well. Can the Minister explain how our concerns over the wood pellet mill and the woodland caribou population within the K'aagee Tu protected area are being addressed? Mahsi.

Question 198-18(2): K’aagee Tu Protected Area
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Minister of Environment and Natural Resources.

Question 198-18(2): K’aagee Tu Protected Area
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Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

Thank you, Ms. Speaker. The department is working on the Conservation Net Reduction Plan to bring forward towards this House here during this session. Hopefully we're going to bring forward our new strategy and Conservation Action Plan. These two questions that he's proposed to me are both related to the conservation area that he's referring to. The woodland caribou has a strategy that we're developing right now with our Aboriginal partners and collaboratively with all people, user groups, and that. I'm glad to say that the working group has worked on a plan and we're expecting to release that by the end of 2016 for the Deh Cho region. So, as the Member is well aware, the Conservation Action Plan will protect areas for the habitat of boreal caribou. That's something that'll be in the long-range plans for that region and also for the territory-wide one that we will be introducing on boreal caribou. As for the question for the pellet mill and its effect on conservation areas, there's two things, I guess, related to the pellet mill: one is the boreal Strategy that also would be affected by the FMA holders in their wood lots. Those things were addressed through the land use permitting of those FMA holders. I believe that the total area for both FMA holders in boreal land caribou would have a minimum impact as low as point-two-five per cent of the range plan for Boreal caribou. Yes, we are trying to work with all groups in this and move this forward, so thank you for that, Mr. Speaker.

Question 198-18(2): K’aagee Tu Protected Area
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Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Negotiations can take time; however, I believe the department and this government could consider mechanisms including fast tracking negotiations or putting interim measures in place. What is required to move candidate area from its current evaluation stage to the next step in the process. Mahsi.

Question 198-18(2): K’aagee Tu Protected Area
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Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

Thank you, Ms. Speaker. As I've said, we are moving forward with the conservation network planning for the NWT. Hopefully within this session we're going to be tabling Healthy Land Healthy People NWT Conservation Area Action Plan 2015-2020. Within that strategy it's going to have an engagement section and we want to get going on all these areas that were put forward as soon as we can once this is brought to the House. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 198-18(2): K’aagee Tu Protected Area
Oral Questions

Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

How does the Department of Environment and Natural Resources plan to support the processes here? You know, it's moved from an initial concept of Protective Area Strategy, it's kind of moving to this new conservation network initiative there. How would the department plan to support this process?

Question 198-18(2): K’aagee Tu Protected Area
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Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

Once the plan is tabled in this House, we will be looking at seeking engaging our Aboriginal partners and advising a plan with the priority outcomes and that. So we will continue with the process with all Aboriginal Governments and private sector and user groups as we did previously. So we will be looking to engage them in a meaningful way.

Question 198-18(2): K’aagee Tu Protected Area
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Deh Cho.