This is page numbers 1837 – 1882 of the Hansard for the 18th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was program.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Mr. McNeely. Nothing further from Mr. McNeely. I see no further comments or questions. Mr. Thompson.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I guess my concern is that we are looking at mega projects versus small community-based projects, and so besides this $1 million for small communities as compared to all these other major projects, has the department looked at putting a better percentage to small projects that will benefit the whole territories instead of the major projects? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Minister.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

February 20th, 2017

Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

To answer that question, that is the reason we are in the capital planning process, so I believe that is why we are here today. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Thompson.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you for the non-answer, Minister. I appreciate that. The problem is, again, reality is, we live in the territories, we have small communities, not all big centres are not doing all major projects; however, if we would invest a little bit more money in this in the smaller communities we would see a better impact on the other departments such as Health and ECE through income support. So, again, since we are all here to work on this, as the Minister has said, will the Minister and the department start looking at this and putting a better percentage to these access roads, these kinds of programs that will benefit the whole territories instead of major projects? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Minister.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. So everyone is focusing on the Community Access Program, but when you look at the broader as a whole, transportation, what have we been doing, you look at the BCP money that we spread out across the Northwest Territories. It is spread out amongst the regions, amongst the communities, and in the particular Member's riding we have just done community access roads Jean Marie and Nahanni Butte. So those are the types of programs where some of this capital money goes, and it is spread across the Northwest Territories, not just some mega projects. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. You used an acronym BCP, I believe. Would you please clarify for committee what that means?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

Building Canada Plan. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Thompson.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chair, and I thank the Minister for his answer. Could you tell me where on this page the PCF is on? Because I mean I am not sure that we are talking about the same program. If it is on this page I apologize. I do not know where it is, so can the Minister please verify that it is on this page or in this section? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Minister.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I was answering the question as to how the department is looking at spending money in the communities versus mega projects and I referred to the Building Canada Plan, but that money comes in the capital projects. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Thompson.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you, and I thank the Minister for his answer. I thought I missed something, so I greatly appreciate it. I was not trying to be -- I will just leave it at that. So I understand we have the Building Canada Fund, I totally understand that, but what I am looking at is this Community Access Program, where if we increased it we would be able to give these smaller communities a better opportunity to develop the roads, or the access roads, or access to the recreational opportunities in the smaller communities. So I have heard the Minister, and again he is going to come back and say we are in fiscal restraint and this is where we are. So I would hope that the Minister and the department would actually listen to the small communities and try to increase this pot of money so that we can have some work in our communities and better facilities. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Would the Minister like to respond?

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I want to make it quite clear to the Members that I am not against this program. I love this program. We have distributed all the money for the last two years that I have been here, but right now with the present situation we have there is no extra money. If the opportunity comes in the life of this 18th Legislative Assembly to put more money into this program, I will gladly have a look at it. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Thompson, anything further?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

No, I thank the Minister for his answer. We are going to probably disagree on it. I appreciate that they are going to look at it. Too bad it is not going to be in this budget. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Anything further? Mr. Vanthuyne.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Cory Vanthuyne

Cory Vanthuyne Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, I move that this committee defer further consideration of the activity corporate management under the Department of Infrastructure, Main Estimates 2017-2018, on page 229 at this time. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Vanthuyne. As a technicality, I have to call the page before a motion is made. One moment. So I will call the page. Infrastructure, corporate management, operations expenditure summary, total activity, $10,023,000. Does committee agree? Mr. Vanthuyne.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Cory Vanthuyne

Cory Vanthuyne Yellowknife North

Once again, Mr. Chair, I move that this committee defer further consideration of the activity corporate management under the Department of Infrastructure, Main Estimates 2017-2018, on page 229 at this time. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Committee Motion 56-18(2): Tabled Document 261-18(2): Main Estimates 2017-2018, Infrastructure, Deferral Of Corporate Management Activity, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Vanthuyne. There is a motion on the floor and the motion is being distributed. The motion is in order.