This is page numbers 2249 - 2288 of the Hansard for the 18th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was airport.

Topics

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, I wonder if the Minister can think of a remedy to the problem posed to the people who pre-sell tourism packages, where the fees have been made now and so the increased airport fees cannot be added on. Is there a solution he can propose that would allay the concerns that tourism businesses have about having to bridge the gap between their pre-paid and their upcoming business? Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Ms. Green. Minister.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Any pre-sold packages at any of the tourism operators that have already sold will not have an effect with this fee. Once this is passed through the House we want to start July 1st, but anything that has actually been pre-sold before that is at a later date will not be affected by this. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Ms. Green.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

That is good news. So just to recap this: as long as it has been pre-sold prior to the effective date, then the initial price is the price. Is that correct? Thank you

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Ms. Green. I will just remind everything to make sure the light is on before you begin speaking. Minister.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. That is correct. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Ms. Green.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Okay. Thank you very much for that. I think that those are all my questions. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Ms. Green. Mr. McNeely.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Daniel McNeely

Daniel McNeely Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I recall a number of years ago when the immigration funding established the Aurora Fund to provide venture capital for enterprises an private communities. In particular, there were quite a large amount of applications going towards air travel supports, expansion of existing chopper companies, airplane companies. As a result of that movement on capitalization to the opportunity and flexible terms of the immigration fund called the Aurora Fund, we saw the creation of some new companies. What my question is: is given the fact that they're still operating today, are our lease rates within the airport property are considered competitive? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. McNeely. Minister.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes, that's correct, our leases are considered market rate. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Mr. McNeely.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Daniel McNeely

Daniel McNeely Sahtu

None yet. I may have another one later. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. McNeely. This discussion is actually better suited for the second clause, so I'm going to proceed to call the first clause and the discussion can continue on clause 2. So clause 1, does committee agree?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Yea.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, committee. The yeas have it. Moving on to clause 2. Clause 2, comments or questions. Comments or questions on clause 2. Mr. Testart.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The total cost of this, the Minister made a comment that the honourable Member for Nahendeh was incorrect in his assessment; I just want to get back to that number. My understanding is that, should someone travel to Edmonton on a return flight, for example, from let's say Fort Simpson, the cost of that would be a $29 fee once they arrive in Edmonton and once they return to Fort Simpson there will be a $19 fee. So there are fees on both ends of the trip, is that not correct? Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Testart. Minister

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. So this individual, if he flies from Simpson through the Yellowknife Airport to Edmonton, there's no fee, nothing. But if the individual flies to Yellowknife on one ticket and then buys a different ticket to leave out of the Yellowknife Airport to go to Edmonton, there would be a fee. But if he's flying the Yellowknife Airport from Fort Simpson return, or even one-way to Edmonton, there is no additional cost to the ticket. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Testart.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I suppose it's a bit clearer, but I think committee had a different understanding when we embarked on our report.

The other thing, the Minister made reference that carbon taxes and other cost of living increases are not part of this plan, but I would argue that our cost of living has everything to do with the Yellowknife Airport and any fees need to be carefully measured. The committee has recommended that the airport fees be implemented over time rather than all at once.

Now the Minister has already said that he disagrees with that, but does he further disagree with the committee's formal recommendation that these fees be implemented over time? Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Testart. Minister.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. First of all, I want to clarify, going back to the previous question first. If you're doing this flight from Simpson through to Edmonton there is no AFI, air improvement fee, but there will be a fee on that ticket for the aeronautical fees which would be in the $7 to $9 range. So that's actually going to be that one fee that will be affecting someone flying through from a community.

To the Member's question if would I support a phased-in approach, I've made it quite clear a number of times, no, we do not support a phased-in approach. Thank you, Mr. Chair.