Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Next we have Mr. Vanthuyne.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Just for clarification, I thought I heard the deputy minister indicate earlier that the department had not received to date any applications for agriculture leases. Is that correct? Can I get clarification? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Vanthuyne. Mr. Hagen.

Thank you, Mr. Hagen. Mr. Vanthuyne.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Okay, that provides clarity for me. It is an instance such that he just described that I am aware of, that somebody on a recreational property has applied for an agriculture lease. I guess the question becomes: is that a possibility? Are people who are on existing recreational leases allowed the opportunity to apply for an agricultural lease on all or part of it and be given consideration to be able to use some of it for agriculture? There are a lot of people who have lands, who live on existing lots, and again I am referring to Ingraham Trail, who would certainly maybe like to take advantage of the agricultural industry. I am wondering if the department gives these lease applications consideration to promote agriculture in the territory. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Vanthuyne. Mr. Hagen.

Thank you, Mr. Hagen. Mr. Vanthuyne.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I would like to ask a little bit more about when somebody puts in an application for agriculture. Do we have a clear distinction between those who are applying for the growth of vegetables versus those that are raising animals, let's say, for example? Do we distinguish between the two, or are those two different applications? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Vanthuyne. Mr. Hagen.

Thank you, Mr. Hagen. Minister Sebert.

There is funding of $100,000 in 2018-2019 to develop policies and procedures and criteria for evaluating land leases for agriculture, so hopefully that will address some of these issues. Thank you.

Thank you, Minister Sebert. Mr. Vanthuyne.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. And, yes, that would be helpful, and I am sure it will. We definitely need clarification along those lines. What do we have as it relates to rates for land leases for agriculture versus land leases for commercial? You know, is land for agriculture more affordable? Is it at more affordable rate than that of commercial? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Vanthuyne. Minister Sebert.

Some lands that are, say, suitable for grazing are leased at $0.25 a hectare or $50 per annum, whichever is greater. Beyond that, generally, Commissioner's land that is used for agricultural purposes is leased at 5 per cent of the assessed value, which is, well, currently 50 per cent of the standard lease rate for other commercial properties, so there is an incentive and very reasonable cost to lease land. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Sebert. Mr. Vanthuyne.

Okay. I appreciate all that. I think I have to take a step back for a moment and just touch again on land use plans. I am going to touch on the Yellowknife Recreational Periphery Land Use Plan. My understanding, from what I was hearing earlier, is that basically we are not going to make any headway on these land use plans until there is settlement of land rights agreements. Have we explored the opportunity to work directly with the -- and maybe you answered this already, but just please repeat for me: are the Yellowknives really not in favour of working even on that land use plan specifically right now in terms of finding some degree of, I do not know if resolution or certainty might be the right word, on that particular land use plan? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Vanthuyne. Mr. Hagen.

Thank you, Mr. Hagen. No further questions? Mr. O'Reilly.

Thanks, Mr. Chair. I want to turn to the securities coordination line item on page 332, I believe it is. In the mains, it is shown as $915,000 for 2018-2019. When I go back into the business plan, which is publicly available, it shows that item as $885,000 on page -- well, it is not numbered. It is in schedule 2 of the Department of Land's business plan. Can someone explain the discrepancy here? Thanks, Mr. Chair.