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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. I appreciate the Minister's commitment, but so far, the solutions haven't worked with the fiscal strategy of Cabinet to reduce this department because it hasn't been able to accomplish everything that it wanted.

I want to ask, though: when was the last time that there was a good review done of a fire suppression in particular? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Minister McLeod.

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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The Member and I will continue to disagree on the capacity issues. We feel that our folks feel that they're able to do the work they do with the appropriation they have, and if there's a need for further appropriation, then they would approach FMB. I have a lot of confidence in our people.

To the Member's question, 2016-2017, my understanding was the last time the fire suppression appropriation was reviewed. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Minister McLeod. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I am talking about, I guess, a review of the effectiveness; not just the expenditures, but a value-for-money audit or something along those lines of our fire suppression program, whether there might be other ways to do it more effectively. Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Minister McLeod.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Yes, thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, again, my understanding is that 2011 is the last time that there was a review done of the value for money and effectiveness, and my understanding, again, is, this upcoming year, they are looking at possibly doing another review of the overall fire suppression. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Minister McLeod. The time has expired. Any further questions, committee? Seeing none, I will call the page. Forest management, operations expenditure summary, $36,971,000. Does committee agree?

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Agreed. Thank you. That brings us next to page 86, water resources, operations expenditure summary, $11,454,000. Committee, that is from page 85 to 88. Any questions? Comments? Mr. Vanthuyne.

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Cory Vanthuyne

Cory Vanthuyne Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I really just have one line of questioning, and it is with regard to our transboundary agreements. I would just like to know from the department: how is the management going with regard to our more recent transboundary agreements that we have established, and where are we with regard to the continuing negotiations with the outstanding transboundary agreements that we are negotiating? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Vanthuyne. Dr. Dragon.

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Dr. Dragon

Thank you, Mr. Chair. As we look at the different negotiations that are currently going on, I will just go through each jurisdiction.

With Alberta, we have been working with Alberta to implement the Alberta-NWT Transboundary Water Management Agreement. The first comprehensive annual report of the inaugural implementation year, 2015-2016, was released in November of 2017 with the Minister and the Minister in Alberta at CCME in Vancouver. Work on the 2016 annual report is well under way.

With British Columbia, ENR anticipates an inaugural BC-NWT Bilateral Management Committee meeting will be held in the winter of 2018, following the appointment of the BC representatives to the committee. This meeting will discuss implementation priorities and associated work planning.

In the Yukon, active negotiations to update the existing 2002 Yukon-NWT Transboundary Agreement began in the fall of 2017 and will continue into 2018. With Saskatchewan, ENR anticipates ongoing discussions towards the establishing of a Saskatchewan-NWT agreement, and this will resume in the winter of 2018 with the negotiation of a Transboundary Agreement.

The last, the Nunavut-NWT Transboundary Water Agreement will occur once Nunavut has completed their territorial water strategy. That is the last one, Nunavut. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Dragon. Mr. Vanthuyne.

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Cory Vanthuyne

Cory Vanthuyne Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I appreciate the detail that the deputy minister has provided. No further questions. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Vanthuyne. Any further questions, committee? Mr. Thompson.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Just in regard to the cross-water boundary things here, can the Minister update us on what is happening with Site C? I have been hearing a lot of concerns with this on how it is going to actually affect our communities down river, and I have been given a whole bunch of information here. What has the department been able to deal with regarding that issue? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Minister McLeod.

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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Yes, thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, we do not have that level of information at our fingertips, but we will endeavour to gather the information, come back and share it with the Member, and share it with committee when we have the appropriate resources to do so. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Minister McLeod. Mr. Thompson.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I thank the Minister for that commitment. I guess I should just give the Minister a head's up. I am actually going to do a Member's statement on it next week. I will give you some time on that one, but I will ask some questions on that.

In regard to the water inspectors, is this the area where I should be asking a question about that position? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Minister McLeod.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Yes, he can. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Minister McLeod. Mr. Thompson.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chair. In regard to these positions, has the department looked at the potential of moving that position into the Lands area and have them tag team? It is my understanding that a lot of the inspectors of Lands actually cross over and do water for the department as well. They do, actually, the mines and that. Has the department looked at putting that position into Lands so that they can actually work together? Thank you.