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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. Beaulieu.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

March 5th, 2018

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, one of the, I think, important maybe objectives or goals of the government should be to try to reduce the rate of repeat offenders. I recognize that, in the past, from my hometown we have had quite a few correction officers, many of whom are retired at this point, working in the system. I found that they have lots of discussions with the individuals who are serving a sentence in corrections and trying to have those discussions so that those guys don't return.

I'm asking the Minister, I guess, other than just following the regular process, which is failing, a process that doesn't work, we could do nothing and have numbers of 30 per cent in the GNWT who are individuals who would be considered priority one. Other than doing nothing or following the GNWT Affirmative Action Policy, is this department doing anything to increase the number of correction officers who have priority one status? Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. Minister, you've already noted that the GNWT follows the Affirmative Action Policy and you are on par with the rest of the GNWT. Do you have anything further to Mr. Beaulieu's questions?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

Mr. Goldney does.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. Goldney.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Goldney

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I can say that we wholeheartedly agree with the importance of having Aboriginal corrections officers and the value in having corrections officers to serve as models for our offenders. That's something that we do recognize and one of the reasons why we wholeheartedly endorse and encourage the following of the Affirmative Action Policy when we're looking at hiring, when we're looking at intake for training.

A further recognition, and I think the Member noted the value of having those role models serve and the ability for offenders to connect with the people who share their values. We also have traditional liaison workers in our facilities to try and encourage that connection even further, so it's not just upon the corrections officers. We do recognize that need and do invest in that effort. We do hope to see the numbers continue to improve on the Affirmative Action front. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. Beaulieu.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I'm wondering if corrections has anybody in the associate director program, the development program set up by GNWT to try to increase the number of senior managers with the priority one status in the GNWT. I'm wondering if this department, I'm not talking about the whole department, but particularly the section, whichever directors or managers or wardens, whatever the positions may be called, I don't know, but there is a program. The program development where they have associate directors.

Does this section have any of those positions placed in any of the corrections facilities that we have or the corrections headquarters, the people responsible for corrections who are not actually working out of the facilities, if any of those individuals exist in the department? Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Minister.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

I'm not certain whether we have any employees in the program that was referenced by the Member, but I know there are people on transfer assignments. I don't know whether Mr. Goldney wants to add anything to that. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. Goldney.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Goldney

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I don't believe we have anybody in the associate director program at the moment. We have taken advantage of opportunities to further the careers and development of our Aboriginal employees through transfer assignments to build their experience and allow them to gain experience at more senior levels. That is something that we actively encourage and will continue to do so. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Nothing further from Mr. Beaulieu. Seeing nothing further, I will call this activity on page 281. Mr. Vanthuyne.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Cory Vanthuyne

Cory Vanthuyne Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'm sorry I didn't put my hand up earlier. A few questions. Again, I'm going to go back to aspects with regard to training. I don't think that the department takes this lightly in any way, shape, or form. I recognize that they understand the importance of matters that have gone on recently in terms of concerns raised by inmates as well as officers with regard to particularly the North Slave Correctional Centre. I'm going to make some degree of assumption in saying that there are some similar challenges in maybe some of our other facilities. In my view, it comes down to really how strong we're doing on our communications and on our training.

I don't think that my honourable colleague from Kam Lake went so far as to ask what types of training we actually undertake for our officers. I know that could be vast, but I mean can the Minister maybe start by explaining to us what the basic forms of training our officers require, and are our officers currently all up to date on that training? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Minister.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Of course, training is an ongoing concern and a lifetime occupation. Some of the areas that in particular we have concentrated on recently is training in the area of de-escalation techniques, violence prevention, and responsibilities around the use of force. This training is ongoing. Of course, there is always regular training going on, but those are things that we've been concentrating on in addition to the regular training of late. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. Vanthuyne.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Cory Vanthuyne

Cory Vanthuyne Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes, I appreciate hearing that there is some training going on as it relates to arrest training and the use of force. I recognize that was a concern, that some officers were recognizing that there just seems to be kind of a culture to want to take an aggressive approach first rather than taking the verbal approach. How about verbal judo? Is this something that the officers undertake? Is that a form of training that is required? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Minister.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I understand that verbal judo, as it was referred to, would be a part of de-escalation techniques. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. Vanthuyne.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Cory Vanthuyne

Cory Vanthuyne Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Are all of our officers first aid certified? Thank you, Mr. Chair

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Minister.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

I am not certain of the answer that. I don't think they would all have to be first aid certified, but I can get back to the Member on that. I don't have any exact information on that. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. Vanthuyne.