Thank you, committee. We now have a series of information items. Technology Service Centre, Public Stores Revolving Fund, Petroleum Products Revolving Fund, Marine Transportation Services Revolving Fund, Yellowknife Airport Revolving Fund. These commitments and work performed on behalf of others. As these are hot button issues, I will allow committee to comment on each one if they wish.

First, we will begin with Technology Service Centre. Comments or questions? Seeing none, we will move on to Public Stores Revolving Fund. Comments or questions? Seeing none, we will move on to Petroleum Products Revolving Fund. Question or comments? On Petroleum Products Revolving Fund, Mr. Beaulieu.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, this question would also be applicable to all the other revolving funds that are in this department.

In this particular one, and they're all similar, there is a $55 million Petroleum Products Revolving Fund. It appears as though they drew down $37.4 million. My question is: is $55 million recorded in the debt or is it separate from the debt, or is it $37 million that's recorded in the debt or is it separate from the debt? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you. Mr. McCormick.

Thank you. Mr. Beaulieu.

Thank you. Just so it's clear in my mind, so $55 million is just a limit. That's good. The $37 million is taken and that's the sale, and then the expenditures and so on. This has nothing to do with any accumulation of debt whatsoever. Is that correct? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Minister.

Yes, that is correct. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you. Further to Petroleum Products Revolving Fund? Mr. Beaulieu.

That's all I have for that. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. Marine Transportation Services Revolving Fund. I see the hands going up. Mr. Vanthuyne.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Last year, it looks like we undertook some charters and we generated significant revenue in that area. I can also see that we expended quite a bit as well. This year, we're not projecting any charters. Can I get an update from the Minister on what the reason is for not reflecting any number in charters this year? Thank you. Mr. Chair.

Thank you. Minister.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. This is a conservative estimate going forward. The revised estimates clearly show the work that was taken on last year. We're just taking a conservative approach to this. There's a possibility of some charter work coming up this year, but that hasn't been confirmed yet. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you. Anything further, Mr. Vanthuyne? Nothing further from Mr. Vanthuyne. Next, Mr. Testart.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. When we reviewed the Department of Finance, there was the preparation line for strengthening labour negotiating capacity, and one of the stated purposes was around MTS and enhancing their ability for labour negotiations.

At the time we reviewed that, the department wasn't able to give an exact figure for what they predicted. The cost of MTS is a component of that additional funding would be, but they did indicate that that would be billed back to this revolving fund. I'm wondering if this department can help us get more clarity on what the expected cost of that additional labour negotiating capacity for Marine Transportation Services is going to be. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you. Mr. McCormick.

Thank you. Mr. Testart.

Is there any sense of what we can expect those costs to be? Thank you.

Thank you. Mr. McCormick.

Thank you. Mr. Testart.