This is page numbers 3911 - 3938 of the Hansard for the 18th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was work.

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Question 284-18(3): Cost of Living
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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

It was made clear in the budget we have experienced some unanticipated revenue decline. To the Member's point, though, I am confident. I have to be. If your Finance Minister is not confident in the fiscal future of the Northwest Territories, he may as well fold up his iPad and go home, so I remain confident.

We are challenged. We are in a position, as the Member has said, as I pointed out our declining revenues over the last couple of years, because of the decisions we made in the Legislative Assembly, I think we were able to manage our way through that. Going forward, it was just recently announced a $570 million investment in infrastructure in the Northwest Territories. That is just the federal government's investment. We have put ourselves in a position where we were able to come up with our 25 cents on the dollar of an initial $142 million, so that gives us $712.5 million just in infrastructure investment, not counting all of the other programs that the federal government has invested in in the Northwest Territories.

Again, government should not be the industry. Government should be promoting industry to invest in the North, not just industry, everyone to invest in the Northwest Territories as a place to work and live, and the rest will take care of itself. I am confident. I have to be, and I think the decisions we have made, as tough as some of them were, I think we will manage to work our way through the challenges that come before us. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 284-18(3): Cost of Living
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Frame Lake.

Question 285-18(3): Climate Change Strategic Framework
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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Merci, Monsieur le President. My questions are for the Minister of Infrastructure, who also chairs the Cabinet Committee on Energy and Climate Change. In my Member's statement, I noted how Cabinet's approach to meeting our climate change obligations under the Pan-Canadian Framework has little or no hope for success. Can the Minister provide any justification for how the expansion of the Taltson system will lead to the predicted 44 per cent reduction in greenhouse gas emissions, when there is no funding for the project and no buyers for that power? Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

Question 285-18(3): Climate Change Strategic Framework
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Minister of Infrastructure.

Question 285-18(3): Climate Change Strategic Framework
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Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The 227-kilotonne reduction anticipated from the Taltson expansion is the premise of hydro generation and transmission lines to displace any diesel power generation in the Northwest Territories. The Government of the Northwest Territories identified this priority as part of our response to the federal government's Canadian Framework on Clean Growth and Climate Change, along with other energy and transportation priorities. Some of the work that we plan to do includes defining the potential market, capital costs, transmission line routing, and finalizing a business case that would connect sufficient anchor customers to absorb the green hydro power from the Taltson project. The electricity generated by this project can be used to support future industrial growth and a renewable energy to offset diesel power generation and emissions. We are looking to the federal government to support this preconstruction work going forward. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 285-18(3): Climate Change Strategic Framework
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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

I want to thank the Minister for that. I don't feel that much more confident that that is actually going to result in greenhouse gas reductions. In my Member's statement, I also referred to the fact that the specific target of greenhouse gas reductions for the industrial sector of 17 per cent was removed from the final version of the Climate Change Strategic Framework, no explanation, no rationale provided. I have raised in this House the need for a multi-stakeholder climate change roundtable with Ministerial leadership to secure industry buy-in. Can the Minister explain why there is no target for industrial greenhouse gas emissions and how we can possibly meet the pan-Canadian framework reductions without such a target?

Question 285-18(3): Climate Change Strategic Framework
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Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

In terms of industrial targets, the specific emission reduction target of 89 kilotonnes for industry is identified in the graphic shown, actually, on page 32 of the Climate Change Strategic Framework. This target for industry is part of the overall 517-kilotonne reduction target for the NWT to be achieved by 2030 through the strategic objectives and actions outlined in the 2030 Energy Strategy.

The Department of Environment and Natural Resources is working on a Climate Change Strategic Framework Action Plan, which they expect to finalize later this year.

Question 285-18(3): Climate Change Strategic Framework
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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

I would like to thank the Minister for that and the information about how that figure is hidden in a graphic rather than set out clearly in the strategy itself.

I have raised the issue of poor communications around climate change planning and the surprise addition of the specific and large reductions to greenhouse gas emissions attributed to Taltson expansion. We don't even know what the carbon pricing system is going to be, or how that fits into our climate change initiatives either. Can the Minister tell the public and Regular MLAs whether the Energy Strategy and Climate Change Strategic Framework, or some compilation of these documents, has been submitted to the federal government for consideration in meeting our Pan-Canadian Framework obligations on greenhouse gas reductions and what the response has been from the federal government?

Question 285-18(3): Climate Change Strategic Framework
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Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

As all Members are well aware, we announced all three of these together. The 2030 Climate Change Strategic Framework, the 2030 Energy Strategy, and the Petroleum Strategy, as they are all linked together, were publicly released here in the Assembly on May 1, 2018.

Various federal officials have already been made aware of it. To date, the GNWT has not received any formal feedback from any federal Ministers at this point, but the response that we have had from federal people so far has been very positive, and they are pleased that we are doing our part to meet the Pan-Canadian Framework targets.

Question 285-18(3): Climate Change Strategic Framework
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Frame Lake.

Question 285-18(3): Climate Change Strategic Framework
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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I want to thank the Minister for that, and I look forward if he could share some of that information with this side of the House in the future in a regular update.

The Auditor General noted the failure of our government to provide adequate leadership through appropriate authority and procedures to ensure we meet climate change targets. I have noted the need for a Climate Change Act, Financial Management Board consideration of climate change implications in its decisions, and how infrastructure projects should be prioritized in terms of their greenhouse gas reductions. It is not clear when Cabinet is going to get serious about providing the appropriate authority and procedures to implement our climate change efforts.

I would like to ask the Minister: what specific changes to authorities and procedures is Cabinet going to make to ensure climate change success, and when will this happen? Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

Question 285-18(3): Climate Change Strategic Framework
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Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

The government is working on the development of a 2019-2023 Action Plan to guide the implementation of the 2030 Climate Change Strategic Framework, and this document will address the Auditor General's recommendations not already incorporated into the framework. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 285-18(3): Climate Change Strategic Framework
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Deh Cho.

Question 286-18(3): High School Graduation Rates
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Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as I stated in my statement, I was very honoured and proud to attend the special graduation on the Hay River Reserve. This was celebrating a moment with mature students who decided to go back to school and upgrade their education and at least meet requirements to graduate from high school.

It is common that, throughout the NWT, our young people are facing challenges. My question is to the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment: why are high school graduation rates low in some small communities, and what is the Minister's plan of action to address them? Mahsi.

Question 286-18(3): High School Graduation Rates
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Minister of Education, Culture and Employment.

Question 286-18(3): High School Graduation Rates
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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To actually pinpoint why graduation rates are low is difficult. There can be a lot of extenuating situations that make people leave school. It can be a lack of support. It can be family dynamics. It can be poverty. It could be "I met a new boyfriend, and I just want to hit the road." There are a whole host of reasons why students leave school, but what we are noticing is that we do need to do something about it. It is not okay. We are looking at things that we can control within education and things that we can actually do to support students to make positive choices.

Currently, we have a Pathways program that actually works with students. We are going to strengthen that. We need to actually look at getting more career counsellors into the schools, to actually working with them from younger grades, from grade 9, and talking about, "What do you want to do? Do you want to be a truck driver? Do you want to be a doctor? Do you want to work at Wal-Mart?" and not limiting their options. Working with the students to define what their options are, what they would need once they choose an option, and what school services and supports and curriculum that they would need to actually be successful in obtaining their goals in life.

Like I say, Mr. Speaker, we can do what we can from an education aspect, but a lot of reasons that children decide to drop out of school are not as simple as the education system itself. There are a lot of reasons. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 286-18(3): High School Graduation Rates
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Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

In small communities, we are challenged, of course. Most jobs and a lot of the benefits of industrial-type projects go to where the action is and usually to larger centres. Small communities struggle, but we are seeing some trends in terms of out-migration of small communities, with people moving to larger centres.

At the same time, there was a recent study that pointed to an alarming trend that there are gaps between the education levels of larger centres like the City of Yellowknife and smaller communities. If a student from a small community graduated grade 12, compared to a student who graduated grade 12 in Yellowknife, both go down south, they are challenged, and they have to upgrade.

What are some strategies that the Minister is possibly considering to lead her department to address those very challenges?

Question 286-18(3): High School Graduation Rates
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

I would like to remind Members that, with questions and answers, the preambles should be shortened, and answering questions also should be shortened, because we only have 15 minutes and we still have four individual MLAs in line to ask questions. I would just like to remind Members. Minister of Education, Culture and Employment.

Question 286-18(3): High School Graduation Rates
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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, the effect of urbanization is affecting not only the Northwest Territories; it's small communities throughout Canada; internationally, actually. It is happening that people are moving from smaller communities into the regional or larger community centres because there are more opportunities there. So we have to work on it.

Pathways, like I talked about, making people look at their options earlier is one way. One new thing that we're actually doing as well, and I have to thank the MLA who brought it up in the community of Ulukhaktok, having three graduates who did the distance education program with supports, not on their own, it's not like home studies, shows that it's working. That was a pilot. We need to expand on that.

We have the small communities one that we're working with, and actually, we're working closely with MLAs in our small community committee to look at how we can actually put more economy, more opportunities, within the communities to support them. So we will do what we can to make sure we provide as much supports not only to children, but adults within small communities.

We also have a freedom of mobility within a constitutional right that, even though we'll do whatever we can, people have the right to be mobile and to move. It might not be ideal. So we will provide what we can to support and to sustain small communities, but we will not limit people from being able to migrate as they want.

Question 286-18(3): High School Graduation Rates
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Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

Community learning centres exist in small communities, and so my question is to the Minister: what role can they continue playing in terms of trying to work with mature students who decide to go back to school to upgrade and qualify for high school equivalencies?

Question 286-18(3): High School Graduation Rates
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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Our community learning centres are critical, especially to the smaller communities that the MLA has spoken about, because they actually are working on the ground with people. They're actually looking at people who perhaps have dropped out and need to have adult education programs. They can provide the access program to give people the prerequisites and support so that they can get into college or university, if that's where they need to go. They can do specialized programs in different areas. The problem is, though, that we need to make sure that community learning centres, that education from junior kindergarten to post-secondary, are providing quality services. So one of the things that I really want to work on is making sure that all of our education supports are accountable, have measurable outcomes, and that we are regularly evaluated.

Question 286-18(3): High School Graduation Rates
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Oral questions. Member for Deh Cho.

Question 286-18(3): High School Graduation Rates
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Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the life of the 18th Assembly is coming down. Our term is coming up, and similarly, the Minister has a new portfolio. So besides addressing the rates of low graduation levels in small communities, and the NWT for that matter, what are the Minister's priorities in the remaining term of the 18th Assembly? Mahsi.

Question 286-18(3): High School Graduation Rates
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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

People who know me know I'm a hard worker. Staff who have worked with me in other departments know that I'm a hard Minister. I don't plan on letting either of those go. My priority within this, the remainder of the time, is to actually make sure, as I stated just before, that all of our education supports are based on best practices, that they are accountable, that we have measurable outcomes, that we evaluate them regularly. That is often called accreditation. I'm not asking people to get to the point of accreditation, but I think we need to work towards that. So it's about quality programming is my focus for the remainder of the time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 286-18(3): High School Graduation Rates
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Yellowknife Centre.