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Committee Motion 75-18(3): Bill 7: Chartered Professional Accountants Act - Amend the French Version of Subclause 6(11), CARRIED
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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Minister.

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Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. We can do that, but I can also bring it to our briefing next week for MTS, as well. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. I am not sure; is the briefing next week going to be done in public, and is the Minister prepared to bring that information forward to the briefing? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Minister, some clarification?

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Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes, I believe the briefing will be in public, and we can supply that at the same time. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. Yes, that's great. Can the Minister also bring forward even a rough cost estimate of what these airlifts are going to cost? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Minister.

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Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. It would be a rough cost estimate, but we can bring that forward. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. I look forward to getting that information.

In the Minister's statement, I think it is down on page 4 here, he talks about how there is going to be a $19.5 million investment in procuring four double-hulled barges. Those barges, is that going to come out of the Marine Transportation Services Revolving Fund as well? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Minister.

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Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

Yes, our portion is coming out of the MTS Revolving Fund. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. Will those charges be part of, then, the financial report that the Minister is going to bring forward for the public briefing, these four double-hulled barges? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Minister.

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Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes, we can do that as well. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks. I don't have any further questions at this point, Mr. Chair, but I thank the Minister for those commitments and look forward to getting the information in a public forum. Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Next, Mr. Nadli.

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Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, it is very concerning in terms of what is happening way up north. We, in the southern Northwest Territories, you know, have the highways to transport our goods and services to our communities, but unfortunately, people that live way up north, a lot of their goods and services have to be brought in by barges, or sometimes, in this extreme example, flown in because they don't have any other choice. I really sympathize with my colleague, who spoke in terms of ensuring that, you know, people from those communities got some answers.

My question is very basic, and maybe the Minister had an opportunity to provide some very strong rational reasons in terms of why MTS has to be situated in Hay River. It just makes sense at this point that the centre of operations should be considered, perhaps, in the Beaufort Delta so that, you know, operations could easily be made and adjustments be made.

My question is to the Minister: why does MTS, the base of operations, need to be based in Hay River? Mahsi.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Minister.

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Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. As I have laid out before, first of all, how are you going to haul millions of litres of fuel to Tuktoyaktuk? We can do that. That's by truck. Trucking is going to cost you a heck of a lot of money to get the fuel up there, way more than it ever is going to be on a railhead to bring it to Hay River. The terminal is there. It is the most northern railroad in Canada.

We also have, as I said, the Synchro Lift there, which is millions of dollars of assets to build something like that up there, to be able to lift the barges and the vessels out of the water to do maintenance and repair on them. It just clearly makes sense to operate out of Hay River logistically. If a guy sat down and did the numbers on the freight alone, just to haul fuel to Tuktoyaktuk wouldn't make sense. It is all done on sheer volume.

Fuel is the whole reason for MTS's existence to start with, and deck freight became an extra. Fuel is a necessity that had to be shipped to all of the northern communities and the DND sites, and that is the largest percentage of our revenues. I can't see where Tuktoyaktuk being the head port would make any sense, besides a contingency location at this point. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Nadli.