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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Minister Moses.

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Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. As you heard before, we are developing an asset management program. When we do look at the deficits, we really do look at the core infrastructure. As I mentioned, a lot of this money goes to core needs for the communities, and we do base it on service life rather than market price at the time. I think this asset management program that the department has been developing is going to help identify some of the things that the Member has mentioned. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. Beaulieu.

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Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am kind of understanding the core as, like, maybe this is the basic infrastructure that would maintain the city or maintain a town or a hamlet. Maybe I could just get the Minister to give me an example of what would not be considered core infrastructure. I don't see the difference between core infrastructure and infrastructure, period. I was wondering if maybe I could just get that explanation. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Minister.

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Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Just for clarity, is that what the core needs are in the community, or what is outside of it or just the core needs? Sorry, I missed part of the question there.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Some clarification, Mr. Beaulieu?

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Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Like, when the Minister referred to core infrastructure, I was wondering what that included. For me, core infrastructure are all the roads, ditches, dumps and docks -- no, not docks, maybe trucks and heavy equipment. Just a clarification of what would be outside of core infrastructure?

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. Minister.

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Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Some of those would include roads, as he mentioned, water, sewage services, solid waste sites, some of the main things that you would see in almost any other community. Maybe I will ask Mr. Tordiff if there was anything that I might have missed. You mentioned some other ones earlier, such as other facilities such as garages for the community for storage and things like that, but maybe through you, Mr. Chair, I'll ask Mr. Tordiff if he has anything further he can add.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. Tordiff.

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Tordiff

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The Minister has a pretty good summary of what we would consider core infrastructure. Communities of course have the discretion to invest in whichever capital they choose, if they choose to build a swimming pool or so forth. We fund the core infrastructure, and that structure is like roads, water treatment plants, water-delivery truck. That type of equipment is what we would consider core. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. Beaulieu.

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Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Mr. Chair, I understand. Swimming pools and things like that, I recognize are outside of the core. I am beginning to understand what that is. When the department does infrastructure deficit, they are looking at the core and they are comparing apples to apples. That's what I want to hear. Thank you for the explanation to the Minister, and that is all I have for now, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. Next, Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. I want to follow up on the municipal funding gap review that was done jointly between MACA and NWTAC some time ago. One of the commitments in our mandate reads, "We will develop a strategy to close the gap in funding levels to meet municipal core needs." Can the Minister tell us when that strategy is going to be ready and made available to the Regular MLAs and the public? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Minister.

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Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. As I mentioned, we are looking at working on it again. We put a delay on it since there was an election coming up. I would say, probably the earliest that we might be able to see it, I would say, is in February.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. I appreciate that. I look forward to getting the document in February. Can the Minister tell us whether the gap itself has been recalculated? Obviously, as we move forward in time, infrastructure changes, cost of living increases and so on. Does the department actually recalculate this on a regular basis? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. Tordiff.

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Tordiff

Thank you, Mr. Chair. We were able to have a good idea of the inventory in the communities through the asset inventory that communities maintain as well as other filings with their insurance program.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. That's interesting. Is the gap, the funding gap, actually recalculated on an annual basis? Has it ever been recalculated? Is there a cycle for that? Can someone tell me whether it's actually recalculated? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. Tordiff.