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Question 109-18(3): Procurement Policies
Oral Questions

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Cory Vanthuyne

Cory Vanthuyne Yellowknife North

It seems to me they actually are hearing the voice of business after all. It turns out there is a venue in which they can hear some of these complaints. The question becomes: does the public know well enough that they have this option and that there is this portal or this venue in which they can share complaints? Quite frankly, what we are hearing today is that a number of them still haven't been heard.

The Premier alluded to earlier that he is asking us, if there are concerns, to bring them forward. They would be happy to address them. I am wondering if the Minister of Infrastructure once again will turn that around and reach out to the people and hear from them rather than hearing it through MLAs? Will the Minister please undertake a review and do a public consultation to hear what the public has to say about our procurement policies so he can hear it first hand?

Question 109-18(3): Procurement Policies
Oral Questions

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Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

As I just mentioned, since 2010, we had 22 complaints. That is in eight years. Two had merit. For example, this year, the last calendar year, we have 362 contracts go through Infrastructure. That is not counting the contracts awarded by Infrastructure on behalf of other departments. Put this into context, we had 362 contracts valued at $136 million. As I have stated in this House, I have had two or three people come directly to me about the process and complaining about it. The vendor complaint process clearly shows there is not an issue. Twenty-two people complained since 2010, and two have had merit.

Question 109-18(3): Procurement Policies
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Kam Lake.

Question 110-18(3): Procurement Policies
Oral Questions

February 14th, 2018

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Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

Thank you Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have questions for the Minister of Infrastructure. I want to get into this issue of payment and prompt payment in particular. I have previously raised this issue in the House. There is movement in our country on making this process fairer, more transparent, and more timely for subcontractors and businesses who benefit from government procurement, especially in the construction industry.

Three of the sections set out in Ontario's new Construction Lien Act set out that the owner's payment obligation is transferred down to the contractor. The contractor's obligation is then transferred down to its subcontractor. The subcontractor's obligations are down to their subcontractors. In a sense, when payment is received, it moves down the chain, and there is a legal basis for it to move down the chain. We don't run into payment issues of people down the line. Has the Minister completed his review of that legislation? Thank you.

Question 110-18(3): Procurement Policies
Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Minister of Infrastructure.

Question 110-18(3): Procurement Policies
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Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Member is correct. He brought it up in the House last year. Since then, the Department of Infrastructure has introduced a prompt payment issue to the Procedures Working Committee. They are having a look at this thing. Ontario has just recently passed this prompt payment legislation. They are the only ones in Canada who have done it. The federal government is having a look at doing this. We are continuing to monitor both of them moving forward.

At the same time, we have also reached out to the Construction Association of the Northwest Territories on prompt-payment issues. They never got back to us on if it is an issue. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 110-18(3): Procurement Policies
Oral Questions

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Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

I have a constituent who is a subcontractor and did not receive payment from a government contract. It is an issue. I can tell the Minister that. It is an issue. I will give him the full details when we are out of the Chamber. The Government of Canada is doing more than looking at it. There is a bill called the Canada Prompt Payment Act currently in first reading. Is the Minister willing to develop a legislative proposal and to share that proposal with the standing committee so we can get to work on prompt payment legislation here in the Northwest Territories?

Question 110-18(3): Procurement Policies
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Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

As I have stated, we have put this to the working committee. I have reached out to the Northern Construction Association. Based on one person, again, am I willing to make legislation? Possibly. I am willing to sit down with the Construction Association and see if this is something that is of utter importance that needs to be done in a timely manner, to have a look at it. As of right now, with one person, I am not ready to move on legislation.

Question 110-18(3): Procurement Policies
Oral Questions

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Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

When you combine prompt-payment issues with progress-payment issues with all of these payment issues, it seems there is a payment problem. Should I, as a private Member, bring forward a bill that would support a prompt-payment regime, would the government be in a position to support that legislation so we can get some work done in this House?

Question 110-18(3): Procurement Policies
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Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

I can't control if the Member wants to bring a private Member's bill forward. I have said we have recognized this. We have reached out to the Northern Construction Association. We are monitoring what Ontario is doing. The federal government is pushing theirs through their House.

As far as progress payments go, that is a totally different issue than prompt payment. Progress payment seems to be an issue around the manufacturers' goods. We are coming forward with a manufacturers' strategy, a "what we heard" document. If that is an issue in those documents, then we will sit down and have that discussion.

Question 110-18(3): Procurement Policies
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Kam Lake.

Question 110-18(3): Procurement Policies
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Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

Thank you Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the manufacturing strategy doesn't include a section on progress payments, prompt payments, and doesn't include a clear policy direction in that strategy to resolve this issue. Thank you.

Question 110-18(3): Procurement Policies
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Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

We went out and talked to all the manufacturers in the Northwest Territories. We have gone to all the regions and had this discussion. I will be tabling in this Assembly, in this session, the "what we heard" report around the manufacturers' strategy. I haven't even had a close look at it myself yet. I suspect that, if this is an issue with the manufacturers, it will be in the "what we heard" report. We will have a look at it. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 110-18(3): Procurement Policies
Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Colleagues, I would like to draw your attention to visitors in the gallery. With us is Mr. David Ramsay, former Minister and former Member. Welcome. I would also like to recognize a constituent from Behchoko, Louis Chinkon, who is here with us. Masi for coming. Oral questions. Member for Nahendeh.

Question 111-18(3): Sports and Recreation Funding
Oral Questions

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today, I was asking questions of the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs. I would like to follow up with some follow-up questions. In the 2017-2018 budget, can the Minister advise how much money the department has given to municipal governments for recreation and if the money differs from community to community? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 111-18(3): Sports and Recreation Funding
Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs.

Question 111-18(3): Sports and Recreation Funding
Oral Questions

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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, the money does differ between communities. In the budget, we had $825,000 in sports and recreation funding that we annually give to the community governments. Depending on the community size, et cetera, they range between $15,000 and $85,000 in sports and recreation funding annually. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 111-18(3): Sports and Recreation Funding
Oral Questions

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

The Minister talked about $8.3 million into the recreation fund, $4.7 from Western Lotteries and $3.6 from the other areas. Can the Minister advise: does the department consider programs such as Youth Corps, Youth Contribution, and Youth Centre as programs for recreation funding?

Question 111-18(3): Sports and Recreation Funding
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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

No. The department doesn't consider funding provided through the youth programs as sports and recreation funding. Those are treated as separate budgets and have separate program delivery.

Question 111-18(3): Sports and Recreation Funding
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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

I thank the Minister for that answer. I guess I am going to have to sit down with the Minister and get a clear understanding of where this money is, because I don't think the numbers are crunching together as they should. My last question: does the department consider Children and Youth Resiliency Program as a recreation program or something different?

Question 111-18(3): Sports and Recreation Funding
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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

No, the department doesn't consider the Children and Youth Resiliency Program as part of its total for sports and recreation funding.

Question 111-18(3): Sports and Recreation Funding
Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh.

Question 112-18(3): Northwest Territories Housing Corporation Procurement Policies
Oral Questions

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Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Marsi cho, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have questions for the Minister of the NWT Housing Corporation on the procurement of their projects. Mr. Speaker, I'd like to ask the Minister if the NWT Housing Corporation uses BIP? Thank you.

Question 112-18(3): Northwest Territories Housing Corporation Procurement Policies
Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Minister responsible for the NWT Housing Corporation.

Question 112-18(3): Northwest Territories Housing Corporation Procurement Policies
Oral Questions

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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, the NWT Housing Corporation does use the BIP process as well. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.