In my community of Fort Resolution, there are many very highly skilled individuals who can build houses and do all kinds of things. An example is in most big projects in the community, like the health centre that was just recently completed, I think they had one or possibly two people from outside the community, and the entire health centre was built, but they can't seem to get to work on the houses. Most of the housing projects go to members from outside the community. They come in because there are some people having difficulty getting BIP or some liability insurance, and so on. Would the Minister consider using a contribution agreement with a local organization, whether it be the hamlet, the band, the Metis, using contribution agreements to deliver projects to the community members in Fort Resolution?
Debates of Feb. 14th, 2018
This is page numbers 3217 - 3236 of the Hansard for the 18th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was community.
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Question 112-18(3): Northwest Territories Housing Corporation Procurement Policies
Oral Questions
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Question 112-18(3): Northwest Territories Housing Corporation Procurement Policies
Oral Questions
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Caroline Cochrane Range Lake
The Northwest Territories Housing Corporation does try to work with communities. We do try to support local labour. Sometimes, though, the proposals that come in are just not doable; their bids are actually not reasonable. So sometimes we do have to go outside of the community. We do try to stay within the Northwest Territories, though, so again, we do try to support the communities as much as possible. We will look at negotiated contracts under the Negotiated Contracts Policy to actually help communities to build up their capacity; not for large corporations that have been in business for many, many years, but for organizations that are trying to get a head start.
Question 112-18(3): Northwest Territories Housing Corporation Procurement Policies
Oral Questions
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Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh
I'm just asking, not for a negotiated contract, but rather something a little bit different, something that's probably common and doable with the Housing Corporation, to sign a contribution agreement with the community, whether it be the NWT Housing Corporation's own agency, the Fort Resolution Housing Authority, or the band, or the Metis. I think a contribution agreement is kind of two-fold; first, it's going to create employment for the local people, and secondly, it's going to actually get the projects done for the community. It's just that, when it goes to a neighbouring community, then the contractor will make two trips in, and then the money's gone. So I'd like to ask the Minister if she would take a closer look at the system of having the money flow through a contribution agreement or a local organization?
Question 112-18(3): Northwest Territories Housing Corporation Procurement Policies
Oral Questions
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Caroline Cochrane Range Lake
As stated, we do try to support local labour, whenever possible; sometimes it's not doable. We have committed. I mean, we do learn from previous mistakes; we're trying to better the programs so that people have better access to housing and better work experiences. So there are some things we're doing. We're doing a community initiative program that works with Aboriginal and municipal governments, in partnership, to deal with issues in their community; everybody having something in the pot. We are looking at individual community plans, such as we've done with Fort Good Hope, which was one of our first ones, actually. So within that community, we're looking at their needs, specifically, and how we can work better.
The Hay River Reserve, we're working with Chief Fabian, to see how we can support labour in his community, because they haven't had a chance. We worked with Salt River First Nations to develop housing needs. So we are trying to work with the communities as best as possible, but recognizing that sometimes we can't support local labour. If they come in, if I have a two-bedroom housing unit, which I did one time, that I put out for tender, and the bids were coming in at over a $1 million, I can't accept that, Mr. Speaker. So they have to be reasonable. I want to be reasonable, but I also need people to be reasonable.
Question 112-18(3): Northwest Territories Housing Corporation Procurement Policies
Oral Questions
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Question 112-18(3): Northwest Territories Housing Corporation Procurement Policies
Oral Questions
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Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We have very reasonable people in Fort Resolution. Mr. Speaker, I know that the Housing Corporation has a method in which they can do contribution agreements. Now, the Minister is correct that they're moving in that direction, and we're not talking about bidding on houses. Unreasonable bids, bids to lose contracts, I'm not talking about those. I'm actually talking about mostly elders in the community who are homeowners, where they need help, and when they go in with the size of the project that the Housing Corporation has to offer, it usually takes two small trips in from a contractor from outside the community and then money's gone. So then the elder has to wait one more year in order to then apply again. You see, that is unreasonable, actually. So I'd like to ask the Minister if the Minister would work with me to work with the community -- it's not only for Fort Resolution; I represent four communities -- to work with me to see if a contribution method would be a way that we could get the projects completed for the elders in the riding of Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh? Thank you.
Question 112-18(3): Northwest Territories Housing Corporation Procurement Policies
Oral Questions
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Caroline Cochrane Range Lake
I agree. It's totally unreasonable that people who are homeowners are people who can't access services. I heard a story once when I first started that somebody had applied in one of the smaller communities, and it may have been the honourable MLA's communities, had applied for some repair programs, and we gave them a grant of $10,000. By the time they paid for their contractor to come in, stay, travel, stay in their community, they got a kitchen sink for $10,000, Mr. Speaker. That is not okay, and that is not reasonable. In order to address that in a reasonable way, I have changed the program, Mr. Speaker, so that, if we do give people a $10,000 grant, the contractor's costs are outside that $10,000. The $10,000 will be put directly into services so that the next time I won't hear that their kitchen sink cost $10,000. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Question 112-18(3): Northwest Territories Housing Corporation Procurement Policies
Oral Questions
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Question 112-18(3): Northwest Territories Housing Corporation Procurement Policies
Oral Questions
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Shane Thompson Nahendeh
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to return to the orders of the day, point number five, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
---Unanimous consent granted
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery (reversion)
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery (reversion)
February 14th, 2018
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Shane Thompson Nahendeh
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, again, I'd like to recognize my oldest son; not my favourite son, my oldest son. As he says all the time, it's my favourite son, but I have to correct that. I'd like to recognize my son, Gordon Thompson, in the Assembly today. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery (reversion)
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery (reversion)
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The Speaker Jackson Lafferty
Well, Gordon, you just have to work harder at it. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member for Yellowknife North.
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery (reversion)
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery (reversion)
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Cory Vanthuyne Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I, too, want to take this opportunity to recognize and welcome Yellowknife North constituent, former Member and former Minister Dave Ramsay.
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery (reversion)
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery (reversion)
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The Speaker Jackson Lafferty
Masi. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Item 8, written questions. Item 9, returns to written questions. Item 10, replies to the Commissioner's opening address. Item 10, replies to budget address, day 5 of 7. Member for Sahtu.
Mr. McNeely's Reply
Replies To Budget Address
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Daniel McNeely Sahtu
Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. The annual budgets of the Government of the Northwest Territories are basically covering two major areas: number one, operations and maintenance; number two, capital spending for upgrades of our continuous infrastructure. Our capital spending helps provide investment certainty for the businesses that operate within our territory, as well as investors.
The Government of the Northwest Territories continues to face many challenges with aging infrastructure, aging assets, building new infrastructure, modernizing our regulatory systems, unforeseen expenditures resulting from the impacts of climate change, and we need to maintain public confidence in our delivery of programs and services.
The principle of government, Mr. Speaker, outside of normal day-to-day operations is to develop resources using responsible practices. These include a sound regulatory system, regime, modernizing legislation, public engagement, and, most importantly, working with the Indigenous landowners. Only with our vision for prosperity in the Northwest Territories, prudent and proper targets for our work, independence, and sound investment will we achieve our destiny.
Encouraging and expanding industry's presence in the North is achievable if we have a fair regulatory climate and effective land-access systems. Industry's presence creates royalties and corporate income taxes as well as meaningful jobs. Corporations also provide meaningful benefits directly to the communities. One only has to look at the $500,000 for school books for Indigenous youth; $600,000 to assist the construction of the Kimberlite Career and Technical Centre here in Yellowknife; as well as the $100,000 cement floor for the Lutselk'e arena, just to name a few.
It is important that we train northern workers for the jobs in industry. The Government of Canada contributes to the Mine Training Society, which runs a variety of programs to develop staff for the resource sector and to improve the safety knowledge of the workplace.
Creating a vibrant, sustainable economy means balancing the needs of our remote northern communities, regional centres, and the capital city while maintaining affordable programs and services for both residents and governments. We might view these as fixed income for our territory. Spending by government helps to sustain us as well as provide economy confidence.
Mr. Speaker, the 2018-2019 budget address forecasted $84 million less in revenue than the first year of our term. This can be attributed to the world commodity prices beyond our control, tax decisions by corporations operating here, and temporary closure of the Enbridge line 21, which triggered the stop-work order for the production of the Norman Wells oil field.
I voiced my support for the repair of this pipeline at the public hearings, last October and this past January, of the National Energy Board and the Northwest Territories Land and Water Board. Now it seems the pipeline repair will proceed, adding $53 million in replacement and repair expenditures to the local economy over a five-month period. In addition to the repair, royalty revenues will resume after the operations start up again and oil begins to flow. This is a prime example of our regulatory system in collaboration with all stakeholders, including local Indigenous communities, including the supports for industry.
Collaboration is needed for the health of our economy and our government's revenue. We live and work in a remote area with high costs for almost everything we need and everything we do, but our distance from the rest of the world does not free us from the pressures of global pricing. These are very real challenges for industry and for our government.
Our government also faces the challenge of replacing aging infrastructure and assets. We can only put off that kind of spending for as long as again. Again, it is the question of balancing figuring out how to keep our programs and services as well as meet the needs of our infrastructure.
It is pretty clear that our government cannot satisfy every need with the resources it has at hand. It is just not possible. Priorities had to be set, and we have done the best we could. Both Regular MLAs and our Cabinet friends across from us have worked very hard on the business plans that led up to Budget 2018-2019. Everything considered, the budget we have before us is not as bad as one would think. We might polish the edges a little bit, and we certainly need to work with the Government of Canada to get additional resources with the programs announced. I would not recommend increasing taxes until we have exhausted all options available. It would only discourage the small northern communities which are struggling to meet the day-to-day challenges of growth as well as looking after their families. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. McNeely's Reply
Replies To Budget Address
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The Speaker Jackson Lafferty
Masi. Replies to budget address, day 5 of 7. Item 12, petitions. Item 13, reports of standing and special committees. Item 14, reports of committees on the review of bills. Item 15, tabling of documents. The Honourable Premier.
Tabled Document 76-18(3): We Are One Mind - Perspectives from Emerging Indigenous Leaders on the Arctic Policy Framework
Tabling Of Documents
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Bob McLeod Yellowknife South
Mr. Speaker, I wish to table to following document released by the Dene Nahjo, a report prepared with the Gordon Foundation entitled "We are One Mind - Perspectives from Emerging Indigenous Leaders on the Arctic Policy Framework." Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Tabled Document 76-18(3): We Are One Mind - Perspectives from Emerging Indigenous Leaders on the Arctic Policy Framework
Tabling Of Documents
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Tabled Document 77-18(3): Northwest Territories Surface Rights Board 2017-2018 Budget, Strategic Plan, Business Plan and Five-Year Forecast
Tabling Of Documents
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Louis Sebert Thebacha
Mr. Speaker, I wish to table the following document entitled "Northwest Territories Surface Rights Board 2017-2018 Budget, Strategic Plan, Business Plan and Five-Year Forecast." Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Tabled Document 77-18(3): Northwest Territories Surface Rights Board 2017-2018 Budget, Strategic Plan, Business Plan and Five-Year Forecast
Tabling Of Documents
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Tabled Document 78-18(3): Many Ways to Lose a Billion - How Governments Fail to Secure a Fair Share of Natural Resource Wealth, by Don Hubert, PhD, for Publish What You Pay Canada Tabled Document 79-18(3): Press Release by Responsible Mining Northwest Territories - NGOs Encourage GNWT to Produce Modern Mining Legislation Tabled Document 80-18(3): A New Shared Arctic Leadership Model, from Mary Simon, Special Representative of Minister of Indigenous and Northern Affairs Canada, Submitted March 2017
Tabling Of Documents
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Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake
Merci, Monsieur le President. I would like to table the following three documents: number one, "Many Ways to Lose a Billion - How Governments Fail to Secure a Fair Share of Natural Resource Wealth, by Don Hubert, PhD, for Publish What You Pay Canada"; "Press Release by Responsible Mining Northwest Territories - NGOs Encourage GNWT to Produce Modern Mining Legislation"; and the last document, Mr. Speaker, is "A New Shared Arctic Leadership Model, from Mary Simon, Special Representative of Minister of Indigenous and Northern Affairs Canada, Submitted March 2017." Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.
Tabled Document 78-18(3): Many Ways to Lose a Billion - How Governments Fail to Secure a Fair Share of Natural Resource Wealth, by Don Hubert, PhD, for Publish What You Pay Canada Tabled Document 79-18(3): Press Release by Responsible Mining Northwest Territories - NGOs Encourage GNWT to Produce Modern Mining Legislation Tabled Document 80-18(3): A New Shared Arctic Leadership Model, from Mary Simon, Special Representative of Minister of Indigenous and Northern Affairs Canada, Submitted March 2017
Tabling Of Documents
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Tabled Document 81-18(3): Northwest Territories Conflict of Interest Commissioner Annual Report to the Legislative Assembly for 2017
Tabling Of Documents
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The Speaker Jackson Lafferty
Pursuant to section 99 of the Legislative Assembly Executive Council Act, I hereby table the Northwest Territories Conflict of Interest Commissioner Annual Report to the Legislative Assembly for 2017.
Item 16, notices of motion. Item 17, notices of motion for first reading of bills. Item 18, motions. Item 19, first reading of bills. Item 20, second reading of bills. Item 21, consideration in Committee of the Whole of bills and other matters: Minister's Statement 1-18(3), North Slave Correctional Complex Inmate Concerns; Minister's Statement 19-18(3), Aurora College Foundational Review Process; Tabled Document 63-18(3), Main Estimates 2018-2019, with the Member for Hay River North in the chair.
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair R.J. Simpson
I will now call Committee of the Whole to order. What is the wish of committee? Mr. Testart.
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Kieron Testart Kam Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that the Chairman leave the chair to report progress.
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair R.J. Simpson
Thank you, Mr. Testart. There is a motion to report progress. The motion is in order and non-debatable. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.
---Carried
I will rise and report progress.