This is page numbers 3237 - 3260 of the Hansard for the 18th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was budget.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Minister of Justice.

Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I cannot, of course, and it would be improper for me to, discuss any specific case before the courts, but there has been a good deal of commentary about the jury system across Canada. I can advise that I have been thinking about this issue and would like to hear from the public and also from members of the local bar who practice in this area. I am a little concerned that radical changes to the jury system would be ill advised. This system has served us well for a thousand years.

Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

I do have some familiarity with the jury system, as the former jury administrator for this government. I am pleased to hear the Minister is considering opening this discussion up to the public. Is this just an idea he is having, or is he planning on launching some sort of public consultation on these, the issues that have been raised around fairness in our justice system?

Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

No, I was not thinking of having a public consultation. I, too, have a good deal of experience with the jury system and have found that it has worked very well in our jurisdiction, dealing with many jury trials in my home community of Fort Smith and also in at least one or two other communities. I certainly will, and I often do, meet with members of my profession and would like to hear from them. Certainly, if the public wishes to write me or contact me in some way, I would also be interested in hearing their concerns, but I am not planning any formal public process at this time.

Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

I appreciate this is a sensitive issue, but it is also an important issue, and people need to be heard. I might be asking the wrong Minister, but if the Minister could talk to the Minister responsible for Public Engagement and perhaps consult with that Minister to develop a consultation, a round table discussion, anything really, it does not have to be terribly expensive, but can the Minister commit to having some sort of public engagement around these issues and the broader issue of reconciliation in the Northwest Territories and Canada?

Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

Of course the legislation, the criminal legislation, is a federal concern, and I think that it would be more appropriate for the federal Minister to be addressed in this area. The Member also alluded to the broader area of reconciliation, and Members will know that the Government of the Northwest Territories is dedicated to that concept of reconciliation.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Kam Lake.

Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just because it is a federal issue does not mean we do not have a responsibility to raise these issues that are being raised by our constituents and by people who are leading rallies and protests outside this building to get our attention, so will the Minister commit to bringing this to the federal Minister of Justice or to the FPT table to see if there can be a national conversation or see if the NWT can join the national conversation, and if he can find a way to do this without delay? Thank you.

Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

I imagine this matter will be discussed at the next FPT so, should it be on the agenda, certainly we will be involved with that discussion. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Frame Lake.

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Merci, Monsieur le President. I would like to continue the conversation that I had yesterday with the Minister of Lands on mine site reclamation. Yesterday he said that he was sure that GNWT had not given any kind of a release or indemnity to TerraX with regard to work that they may want to carry out at the Ptarmigan Mine site, so I am wondering if the Minister would be willing to check with his federal counterparts about whether the federal government had issued any kind of indemnity or release to TerraX with regard to their work on the Ptarmigan Mine site? Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Minister of Lands.

Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank the Member for his question, but must take the question as notice.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. The question has been taken as notice. Oral questions. Item 8, written questions. Member for Yellowknife Centre.

Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my questions are for the Minister of Infrastructure regarding the Government of the Northwest Territories (GNWT) Sole-Source Contracts Report for the period April 1 to December 31, 2017. They ask for a rationale for contracting on a sole source basis for specific goods and services.

Could the Minister please provide:

1. With respect to sole source #02865 for $7,200,000 and #2922 for $14,800,000 with Imperial Oil Ltd for the supply of petroleum products, an explanation why this purchase was necessary through sole-source purchase and not by public tender;

2. With respect to sole-source #2949 for $200,000 with the Inuvialuit Development Corporation for “as and when financial advisory services,” an explanation of the specific scope of these services and why they are not sourced in-house from GNWT advisors;

3. With respect to sole source #3559 for $10,130,000 with Offshore Recruiting Services Inc. for the Marine Transportation Services, an explanation of what is meant by “offshore recruiting services”; and

4. With respect to sole-source #2811 for $855,000 with Fireside Project Management Inc. for a Stanton Territorial Hospital Renewal project manager, an explanation of why this function was not fulfilled with GNWT in-house resources or by the Boreal Health Partnership.

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Written questions. Member for Nahendeh.

Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to seek unanimous consent to go to item number 5 in the orders of the day. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Unanimous consent granted

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery (reversion)
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery (reversion)

Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I thank my colleagues for allowing us to come back to it. I would like to welcome a long-time friend Steven Cooper to the Assembly. Steven is the lead counsel for the Labrador residential school claim and currently the counsel for the 60's Scoop class, and most recently, the Indian Hospital Case Act. As well, I'd like to recognize Andrew Geisterfer, and I apologize if I got your name wrong that way, but who is in the process of becoming a member of the Law Society of the NWT and Nunavut, and this is his first trip to Yellowknife. Welcome.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery (reversion)
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery (reversion)

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member for Kam Lake.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery (reversion)
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery (reversion)

Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to recognize my constituent, Ms. Kelly Martin. Thank you.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery (reversion)
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery (reversion)

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member for Frame Lake.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery (reversion)
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery (reversion)

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Merci, Monsieur le President. It's been a busy week, and I forgot earlier to mention that there's a Page from my constituency serving in the Assembly, so I would like to recognize and thank Sarah Cassaway for her work and for all the work of the Pages during this very busy budget session. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery (reversion)
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery (reversion)

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Item 9, returns to written questions. Madam Clerk.

Deputy Clerk Of The House (Ms. Kay)

Mr. Speaker, I have a Return to Written Question 4-18(3) asked by the Member for Yellowknife Centre on February 7, 2018, to the Minister of Finance regarding the new Stanton Hospital funding arrangements.

The project budget for the new Stanton Hospital is $350 million. Of this total budget, $290 million is the estimate for construction costs. Approximately 52 per cent of these construction costs, or $152 million, is financed by the Government of the Northwest Territories, while the remaining 48 per cent, or $138 million, is financed by Boreal Health Partnership. As of November 30, 2017, the GNWT has made quarterly payments, based on amounts certified by an independent engineer, of $115 million.

The GNWT will begin making service payments to the Boreal Health Partnership on December 1, 2018. The service payment for 2018-2019 will be $6.716 million. It is estimated that the average amount payable for a full year of service will be approximately $18 million. Over the 30-year life of the agreement, the total amount of the service payments will be $598.4 million.

The total amount paid through service payments to the Boreal Health Partnership over the 30-year agreement is broken down into four categories:

• $45.9 million to cover lifecycle costs;

• $255.5 million to cover the maintenance of the facility;

• $227 million to cover the cost of servicing the debt; and

• $70 million as a return on equity of 12 per cent.

Later today, at the appropriate time, I will table a document entitled "Stanton Territorial Hospital Project Cash Flow." Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Returns to written questions. Item 10, replies to Commissioner's opening address. Item 11, replies to budget address, day 6 of 7. Member for Kam Lake.